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kenny mann
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here's my 2 pms you didn't get! Surprised

Jan 18, 07:34PM

Jan 17, 09:40AM

J, can you remind me what area your dad-in-law is in. I want to speak to Cat's Protection to get a bigger picture.

Secondly, are there any additional funds available to be spent on these cats. How much max a month? I spend over £250 a month on my 5 including food vet bills, cat litter, injections etc.

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Report kenny mann • January 21, 2017 9:38 PM GMT
Have to start making progress in this matter. Wink



It's impossible for someone aged 83 to attempt to look after 25 cats. Impossible! It's not fair on him and certainly not far on the cats. I struggle with 5.

He needs help,as you well know,  and you can get cat carers, but they need to be paid for.

First,ALL the cats must be spayed or neutered which I think may have been done? This in-breeding has to stop.

Some of the cats should be put in a re-homing centre with his permission.( If not, more work for the cat carer.) . It's not easy as they are full all over the country, but get his name down. I can try and find spaces if you like?

Then when the number is manageable the cat care person can look after the rest. Feeding, filling the water bowls (should be at least 6 of them) and emptying and re-filling the cat litter trays. I use storage boxes that I get from B@Q. I also have cat litter delivered from Morrisons, as it's heavy.

That will do for starters.  Cool
Report SlippyBlue • January 21, 2017 10:15 PM GMT
Kenny, don't think for a minute that I don't appreciate your help but believe me I have spent nearly 2 years trying to help and have contacted everyone possible to get the situation manageable. It's all to no avail and the cats will be the death of him. His daughter has put this in my corner to try and resolve a solution and I'm like a dog with a bone when I'm given a project to organise but it's impossible. These Cat organisation have visited but they are beyond hopeless. He lives in a mansion near me and is loaded, the cats are all feral, inter breed and pi$$ and $hite all over the place, his 2 grand children who live half a mile away have never once been to his house, the eldest is 12 soon. I've pretty much given up trying to help him.
Never in my entire life have I met such an intelligent man, a Cambridge scholar who is so stubborn and stupid at the same time. It's a lost cause kenny and I'm a voracious person when I get my teeth into something but even I have pretty much given up. Cheers anyway but believe me I have done all I can.
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2017 10:19 PM GMT
Slippy, I can get some lads to remove every cat but one , tie a red ribbon round the neck of his favourite cat and they will leave him be, cost you £1000  Wink
Report SlippyBlue • January 21, 2017 10:25 PM GMT
My partners brother has already suggested very much the same T.L. and he'll do a cull for nowt. It's just a ridiculous situation but like I said, he just won't have it. It's virtually impossible to re home ferals and they are all fed and watered and in no danger. I have spent hundreds of hours trying to deal with this but it's an impossible job and I've given up. I did my best..
Report SlippyBlue • January 21, 2017 10:26 PM GMT
The Leopard, she would pay 5 grand let alone 1 Cry
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2017 10:29 PM GMT
£5000 then
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2017 10:29 PM GMT
Laugh
Report SlippyBlue • January 21, 2017 10:38 PM GMT
She would pay it believe me. Her Dad needs a heart op soon as well. It's very difficult to say just how obtuse this man is. It's a lost cause and he is having falls for good measure. What will be will be, I tried.
Report mega88 • January 21, 2017 10:39 PM GMT
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Report kenny mann • January 21, 2017 10:40 PM GMT
Well first of all. we need a cat carer in. Loadds out there, you need an advert first. Then you need to interview applicant to decide who is suitable..
Report SlippyBlue • January 21, 2017 10:42 PM GMT
Kenny, I'd like to close this out. If I couldn't sort it nobody could. End of thread.....
Report kenny mann • January 21, 2017 10:43 PM GMT
Kenny, don't think for a minute that I don't appreciate your help but believe me I have spent nearly 2 years trying to help and have contacted everyone possible to get the situation manageable.

Right, lets develop that point.WiLL HE HAVE A CAT CARER IN??
Report mega88 • January 21, 2017 10:44 PM GMT
Why don't you put them down ? I even think it's lawful to do it yourself, saves on vet bills
Report SlippyBlue • January 21, 2017 10:50 PM GMT
This is my last post on this thread, cat carers are bloody useless kenny. One turned up and I had to give him a few quid for the parking meter as he was skint and couldn't operate a trap. Of course you know more about cats than all the so called experts combined. Trust me, they are beyond hopeless. You CANNOT re home 25 ferals.

Please do me a favour and let this thread slide away, if I couldn't get a solution, nobody could.
Report mega88 • January 21, 2017 10:52 PM GMT

Jan 21, 2017 -- 4:50PM, SlippyBlue wrote:


This is my last post on this thread, cat carers are bloody useless kenny. One turned up and I had to give him a few quid for the parking meter as he was skint and couldn't operate a trap. Of course you know more about cats than all the so called experts combined. Trust me, they are beyond hopeless. You CANNOT re home 25 ferals.Please do me a favour and let this thread slide away, if I couldn't get a solution, nobody could.


What was his name? Wasn't Johnny Mustang by chance ?

Report The Leopard • January 21, 2017 10:54 PM GMT
The lads are on the way....can't stop them now.
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2017 10:54 PM GMT
Mischief
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2017 10:55 PM GMT
Visa ?
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2017 11:01 PM GMT
It's okay , the rozzers have pulled them over.....maybe another day.
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2017 11:17 PM GMT
They're having trouble explaining why they were carrying 24 cat cages.
Report kenny mann • January 21, 2017 11:18 PM GMT
You CANNOT re home 25 ferals.


AH, so they are ALL ferals. I agree, you can't rehome them. so as they are all feral, and slowly killing him, best let them all loose, and employ someone to feed them as and when they come round.
Report kenny mann • January 21, 2017 11:22 PM GMT
Please do me a favour and let this thread slide away


First you want my help. Then you don't! I'm confused.
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2017 11:50 PM GMT
Slippy likes to kip at 11pm.....I reckon
Report bodil • January 22, 2017 12:11 AM GMT
My maternal grandmother ended up living with a few dozen+ cats.  I thought she was mad and to be avoided - especially after some of the bastards scratched me. When she went into hospital the council collected the cats and gassed them. Now, at a considerable distance from her and the cats - I realise that I was selfish and inconsiderate.  Won't we all end up confused and smelling of cat pee?


In truth we just need to sterilize the hell out of us and them.
Report annie. • January 22, 2017 12:41 AM GMT
In some ways I think I am on the old man's side.  He is intelligent and can afford it and it is his home, so why cannot he do what he wants?

I appreciate that I do not know the facts (just the facts, maam), but if I was in his situation and in full command of my faculties then I would resent someone telling me what to do in my own home.
Report bodil • January 22, 2017 12:46 AM GMT
But I bet you don't smell of cat's pee.
Report annie. • January 22, 2017 12:52 AM GMT
No, bodil, I don't.

When I think about it I did have a similar situation myself, a long time ago.  I purchased some  exotic long haired hamsters from Harrods and fell in love with them.  But I could not bear them gnawing at the bars of their cages so I let them use a spare bedroom.  The inevitable happened and before long I was overrun with them. However, I solved the problem by selling the babies to the local pet shop who had never seen the breed before. They were very pretty.
Report bodil • January 22, 2017 12:55 AM GMT
Sometimes I think the purest way is to die alone.  At the end of a long and rich life that is.
Report The Leopard • January 22, 2017 12:56 AM GMT
You're not alone....... we are your friends Wink
Report The Leopard • January 22, 2017 12:57 AM GMT
Laugh
Report bodil • January 22, 2017 1:03 AM GMT
Not long enough and not rich enough Leopard.  You're becoming disappointing, like a Game Of Thrones character.
Report annie. • January 22, 2017 1:04 AM GMT
I have often wondered about whether I would prefer to die alone or in the words of 'my' song, annie - 'let me drown in your laughter, let me die in your arms'.  But as I unfortunately have never met anyone who I would like to die in his/her arms then it looks like die alone and I think I would prefer it to having people around, as in my living life I prefer to be alone most of the time.
Report bodil • January 22, 2017 1:09 AM GMT
Trying to think of the Cher song -'We all sleep alone'. More accurately we all rot alone. Carbon cycle. Why sentimentalize it?
Report annie. • January 22, 2017 1:11 AM GMT
You are such a happy bunny bodil, NOT

Why are you such a miserable git?
Report The Leopard • January 22, 2017 1:12 AM GMT
you seem to be preoccupied with death
Report The Leopard • January 22, 2017 1:12 AM GMT
^ to bodil
Report The Leopard • January 22, 2017 1:15 AM GMT
Stop drinking alcohol like Do Wah..... It is the only way out
Report The Leopard • January 22, 2017 1:15 AM GMT
It will take some guts
Report The Leopard • January 22, 2017 1:16 AM GMT
But you do not want to hear that
Report bodil • January 22, 2017 1:20 AM GMT
Strangely I'm actually quite cheerful.  Smiling even.  Hang on why I see you're uncomfortable.  Back soon - just raking the ashes.
Report The Leopard • January 22, 2017 1:25 AM GMT
Have you lost a close family member recently
Report bodil • January 22, 2017 1:25 AM GMT
Sorry - you must have both been feeling old/insecure. Grow up/down - you're in the top 1% of Ho*o sapiens regards lifespan/comfort.  We are the blessed generation. So far.
Report The Leopard • January 22, 2017 1:26 AM GMT
You sound a bit down
Report annie. • January 22, 2017 1:30 AM GMT
You remind me bodil of something out of edgar alan poe, ' I became insane with long intervals of horrible sanity'   ' science has not yet taught us if madness is or is not the sublimity of the intelligence'  Silly
Report bodil • January 22, 2017 1:38 AM GMT
Discomforted that as I type I am without negative emotion - mild content even.  And that's really surprising as I was listening to (finished now thank god) Steve Harley singing my favourite song like an old man.

Energy/matter is never destroyed, just converted.
Report The Leopard • January 22, 2017 1:45 AM GMT
Cockney Rebel?
Report The Leopard • January 22, 2017 1:46 AM GMT
I  always loved that
Report The Leopard • January 22, 2017 1:46 AM GMT
Make me smile
Report The Leopard • January 22, 2017 1:49 AM GMT
Harley lives in North Essex with his wife, Dorothy, whom he married in February 1981. They have two children, Kerr and Greta. Since 1984, Harley has been involved in racehorse ownership, with racing becoming his main pastime
Report annie. • January 22, 2017 1:55 AM GMT
That somehow is upsetting, Leopard, as I have just seen him again in his prime singing 'come up and see me, make me smile'.  Old age, ashes to ashes oh dear.
Report The Leopard • January 22, 2017 2:01 AM GMT
Yep...got to go to bed....night Wink
Report bodil • January 22, 2017 2:02 AM GMT
'Come up and see me'(Make me smile) was it.  So good.  He's a bit of a sod, though.
Report The Leopard • January 22, 2017 2:07 AM GMT
Your secret is safe with me, bodil
Report The Leopard • January 22, 2017 2:07 AM GMT
Wink
Report bodil • January 22, 2017 2:10 AM GMT
We seem to be content.
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