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By:
not allowed to bet
When: 22 Jan 17 16:16
The point is that the cops held back - it is the usual pc madness.  Regardless of his motives.  What about the protection of innocent little children??  Did they think he was just parking his car.
Of course if a cop had taken him out there would be demands to lock him up for 30 years.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 22 Jan 17 16:16
i think it could explain his terrorist behavior

so you think that is not a reasonable deduction from all available evidence here ?
By:
casemoney
When: 22 Jan 17 16:18
If he was shouting Akbhar can be too careful, guy might Just Be praying ...
By:
breadnbutter
When: 22 Jan 17 16:39

Jan 22, 2017 -- 10:16AM, not allowed to bet wrote:


The point is that the cops held back - it is the usual pc madness.  Regardless of his motives.  What about the protection of innocent little children??  Did they think he was just parking his car.Of course if a cop had taken him out there would be demands to lock him up for 30 years.


its the protection of innocent little children a  democracy decided on a non pursuit policy imo .

i dont think the cops in this country should be chasing kids driving cars through towns ,too many innocents killed and for what ,the courts to take away their x-box and sherbet dip for a month ,its pointless but when its terror related or after serious crime has been comitted ,then it has to be done but a better way needs found .

not got enough info on the rules and regs in Melbourne  to make a judgment on whether they were followed or not but the point i was making abd the one being missed is the driver was not being actively/aggressively  pursued and he done what he did ,something he said he was going to do .

should have popped a slug in the mut and saved the innocents but the wishy washy types like we are infested with on here would have been out burning thar bras and greetin about police brutality Laugh

By:
breadnbutter
When: 22 Jan 17 16:41
you know who you are Wink
By:
not allowed to bet
When: 22 Jan 17 17:25
Any one know where he got the idea of driving a vehicle into a crowd of people from?
By:
donny osmond
When: 22 Jan 17 17:34
probably read about it in press or saw it on tv

probably not bright enough to think it up for himself

idiots driven by media , ring a bell
By:
Breedingmad
When: 22 Jan 17 17:35
When I first saw the clip I wondered if the lads with the baseball bat were going to whack him over the head with it
as his head was stuck out of the window.
By:
saddo
When: 22 Jan 17 18:07
They were trying to, but decided to back off after one attempt.
By:
therhino
When: 22 Jan 17 20:16

Jan 22, 2017 -- 6:10AM, broadsword wrote:


surely could have been rammed in that big area he was driving in circles or earlier considering he was a suspect in a stabbing......but they decided to "back off"i read in one report that theyd been tracking him for 2 hours.


That big circle is the most major intersection in the city. You can't just get a cop car there in 30 seconds to ram someone at lunchtime on a business day ffs. You are talking rubbish.

By:
therhino
When: 22 Jan 17 20:21
What makes it worse is there is a "no pusuit" policy

No such policy exists. Victoria Police have a policy to terminate pursuits when they deem the risk to the public too great.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 22 Jan 17 20:36
You can't just get a cop car there in 30 seconds to ram someone at lunchtime on a business day ffs. You are talking rubbish.

the video i watched there is a helicopter overhead and after he pulls out of the donut routine and drives off you can see what looks like unmarked cop cars all pull out and follow him ,there was plenty cop cars there .

and your attempt at the no pursuit policy here is a quote from startsat60.com

It turns out officers were pursuing Gargasoulas in the hours before his rampage in the city, but were told to stop.

One veteran police officer has gone so far as to tell the ABC that the families and friends of those killed and injured have “every right” to question why police didn’t do more to stop Gargasoulas.

“The no-pursuit policy is a disgrace, it’s cowardly,” he said.


so unsure as to what you mean ?
By:
therhino
When: 22 Jan 17 20:50
Can't speak to your website or its credibility. all I can say, is there is no such thing as a no pursuit policy in the state of Victoria. If a member of the media call it that, they are incorrect. I already explained the policy.

Not sure what the relevance of the helipcopter is. Maybe they should have used the rotars to take him out? No probs. And the cars they may have been unmarked cars, and may not have? Even if they were (which you have no way of knowing), you can't ram people in that location. There are people everywhere. At that point, they were chasing a druggie who stabbed his brother not a mass murderer, going off they info they had at the time the Rambo approach in the middle of the CBD is crazy talk.

Unfortunately we don't live in perfect safety. 7 billion people on the planet and they're not all right in the head, but when something bad happens all the armchair experts are out in the force thinking their most simple of explanations after the event would have fixed everything.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 22 Jan 17 21:36
think you have just charged into this one therino

i suggest there is a no pursuit policy and so far all  you have done is confirm this

the relevance of the heli is to confirm and prove the police were in attendance in a monitoring only role ,they had been following him and had 2 hrs to act before he was where he was and had performed some sort of attempt at stopping him as thats when his gif left vehicle .

Seems like you are angry because it looks like the police have messed up .

are you in the force (service i like to call it ) ?
By:
breadnbutter
When: 22 Jan 17 21:40
Melbourne car attack: Police members hit out at no-pursuit policy in wake of Bourke Street deaths

January 21, 2017
The Victorian coroner will investigate the deaths of four people in a car rampage in Melbourne’s CBD, including the police handling of the incident, and an earlier decision to call off a pursuit before the suspect reached the city. It comes as police members say the contentious no-pursuit policy is leaving police hamstrung and needs a complete overhaul in light of Friday’s attack. Four people died after the driver drove through a busy Bourke Street footpath on Friday afternoon, while 30 people are still being treated for their injuries. One veteran police officer told the ABC the families of those killed and injured had every right to question why police did not do everything they could to stop him earlier. “The no-pursuit policy is a disgrace, it’s cowardly,” he said. “There was ample opportunity to stop him in the two hours before he reached the city, but the order was not to pursue.” Victoria Police called off an initial pursuit of 26-year-old suspect Dimitrious Gargasoulas after police alleged he stabbed his brother in Windsor and took his girlfriend hostage, hours before he reached the city. In 2015, Victorian police officers became subject to new restrictions on conducting pursuits following 13 deaths in five years, but they have since been amended after the change sparked outrage from the Police Association and its members. Despite the changes, the policy remains unpopular. “If it was my family that had been impacted I would be very, very angry,” the veteran officer said. “Victoria Police…more detail


https://www.wbnews.info/2017/01/melbourne-car-attack-police-members-hit-out-at-no-pursuit-policy-in-wake-of-bourke-street-deaths/
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