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Pulling on the heart strings for the NHS.
But repeatedly suggesting that the Tories will break the promise of £350 million a week to help fund the NHS.
Hold on, when did the Tories make this promise?
Not that any promises were made but Vote Leave was a cross party campaign group.
This is a scandalous PPB.
Pulling on the heart strings for the NHS.
But repeatedly suggesting that the Tories will break the promise of £350 million a week to help fund the NHS.
Hold on, when did the Tories make this promise?
Not that any promises were made but Vote Leave was a cross party campaign group.
This is a scandalous PPB.
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They didn't make any such promise, that's total rubbish. Sounds like the broadcast was as accurate as a C4 news bulletin.
Talk about "post truth"! Yhe only "truth posts" left are what I type into chit chat
Talk about "post truth"! Yhe only "truth posts" left are what I type into chit chat
The Tories should use this as a club to put Labour out of their misery.
It's only a matter of time.
It's only a matter of time.
LEAVE promised the £350 million per week to the NHS: "let's give our NHS the £350 million the EU takes every week"
May is following a Brexit plan as promised by LEAVE
May et al would like to forget all about that promise
The rest of us we remember and WE'LL BE WATCHING
May is following a Brexit plan as promised by LEAVE
May et al would like to forget all about that promise
The rest of us we remember and WE'LL BE WATCHING
'Vote Leave' had the slogan on the bus A_T
LEAVE did not promise anything, LEAVE was never one entity.
Some followed Vote Leave
Some followed Grassroots Out
Some followed Labour Leave
and so on......
Comprende ?
LEAVE did not promise anything, LEAVE was never one entity.
Some followed Vote Leave
Some followed Grassroots Out
Some followed Labour Leave
and so on......
Comprende ?
Your on dodgy ground here Zen the world and his wife know that 350 million was plastered all over the bus , the tories are such a bunch of liars and cheats that they will not fund the NHS anyway because they hate it because it doesn't make much of a profit for them and their greedy selfish pals
It was not a Tory bus anxious
It was a cross party campaign group.
Why are you trying to stitch the Tories up with the bus?
It was a cross party campaign group.
Why are you trying to stitch the Tories up with the bus?
Gisela Stuart was the chair of Vote Leave
Yes she is a Labour MP as you know.
Yes she is a Labour MP as you know.
anyone with any sense knew the point they were getting at anyway i.e we would be able to spend huge amount of money we send to brussels every week ourselves
I know very well who she is but that's not the issue here the leave campaign was dominated by the tories and right wing nationolists friends Ukip , the leave was funded by rich right wing tories , so if they had no intention of carrying out their promise why did they do it in the first place , because they kno it is a very emotive issue that people would support
The tories as usual lying to the British People like they do all the time
Quite mafeking, and let's not forget the document Vote Leave produced just to put the argument to bed.
National Health Service (Funding Target) Bill - The NHS would receive a £100m per week real-terms cash "transfusion", to be paid for by savings from leaving the EU
Again this can not be a promise, why? because Vote Leave was merely a cross party campaign group.
National Health Service (Funding Target) Bill - The NHS would receive a £100m per week real-terms cash "transfusion", to be paid for by savings from leaving the EU
Again this can not be a promise, why? because Vote Leave was merely a cross party campaign group.
I know very well who she is but that's not the issue here the leave campaign was dominated by the tories and right wing nationolists friends Ukip , the leave was funded by rich right wing tories , so if they had no intention of carrying out their promise why did they do it in the first place , because they kno it is a very emotive issue that people would support
And what promises are these anxious?
And what promises are these anxious?
The promise on the bus for an extra 350 million for the NHS
The tories as usual lying to the British People like they do all the time
What have the Tories lied about anxious?
What have the Tories lied about anxious?
Zen, "Confucius say argue with Anxious exercise in futility, argument with rock more productive".
The promise on the bus for an extra 350 million for the NHS
That was Vote Leave a cross party campaign group.
I was under the impression you had understood this.
Gisela Stuart was the Chair of the group. A Labour MP.
Frank Field was in there as well anxious.
That was Vote Leave a cross party campaign group.
I was under the impression you had understood this.
Gisela Stuart was the Chair of the group. A Labour MP.
Frank Field was in there as well anxious.
Anyone taking the claims of a disparate campaign group as a governmental promise must be wet behind the ears, or simply desperate.
anxious seems to think Sir Nigel was part of Vote Leave.
their entire existence is based on lies and deceit , they and their friends in the banks , the establishment , the biased right wing press owned by foreign billionaires have used their classic tory con trick of divide and conquer for many years
Yes, yes yes anxious but let's get back to the big red bus.
It was not a Tory bus.
It was not a Tory bus.
Ok then do you think the money saved by leaving the EU should fund an extra 350 million to the NHS as the message on the bus implied
No, I took it as normal political campaign hyperbole, as I did with the ruination speeches from Merkel, Obama et al.
Every week? no?
Anyway the official roadmap laid out by Vote Leave before the vote clarified matters of what they were 'suggesting' ( not promising because they were just a campaign group ) said this.
National Health Service (Funding Target) Bill - The NHS would receive a £100m per week real-terms cash "transfusion", to be paid for by savings from leaving the EU
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36534802
Anyway the official roadmap laid out by Vote Leave before the vote clarified matters of what they were 'suggesting' ( not promising because they were just a campaign group ) said this.
National Health Service (Funding Target) Bill - The NHS would receive a £100m per week real-terms cash "transfusion", to be paid for by savings from leaving the EU
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36534802
So anybody can say anything then after an election or referendum they can say no we can say anything to get elected then then tell the idiots and the sheep will have to put up with it , no wonder you were big fans of the big fat clown that gets inaugurated on Friday
Vote Leave did not get elected anxious
Why?
a) Because it was not an election
b) Vote Leave will only ever be a campaign Group.
Campaign Groups don't get elected anxious.
Why?
a) Because it was not an election
b) Vote Leave will only ever be a campaign Group.
Campaign Groups don't get elected anxious.
There is nothing desperate about it , im sure it will not be forgotten and whoever is in power will be held to account
Funny how they think campaign groups can force policy on Governments.
So why was it plastered all over the leave campaign bus ?
Obama promised we would be at the back of the queue for trade deals. That was a lie, will the moaners be taking issue with it?
Listen I actually voted to leave but I wasn't motivated by a little Englander mentality, I agree that our money should be spent by us on what we want but I also realise that it was now Big lie about the NHS message
Actually, funny how they think Governments must adopt the slogans painted on the side of bus run by a campaign group, as policy.
So why was it plastered all over the leave campaign bus ?
No it was plastered all over the VOTE LEAVE bus.
Please get it right anxious.
It was not plastered all over Sir Nigel's bus was it? You know the purple one.
No it was plastered all over the VOTE LEAVE bus.
Please get it right anxious.
It was not plastered all over Sir Nigel's bus was it? You know the purple one.
The issue here is trust and in this case there is no trust just lies
I think we got there in the end anxious.
Vote Leave told lies.
The Tories have not made the 350mil a week promise.
The Labour Party PPB suggests the Tories will "break the promise"
The Tories made no promise., as you know.
Vote Leave told lies.
The Tories have not made the 350mil a week promise.
The Labour Party PPB suggests the Tories will "break the promise"
The Tories made no promise., as you know.
Actually, funny how they think Governments must adopt the slogans painted on the side of bus run by a campaign group, as policy.
even then why did the campaign group, like the current Foreign Sec, behave in such a deceptive fashion? why did they lie to the public like this?
even then why did the campaign group, like the current Foreign Sec, behave in such a deceptive fashion? why did they lie to the public like this?
they will not fund the NHS anyway because they hate it because it doesn't make much of a profit for them and their greedy selfish pals
They can if they sell off the running of it to the public sector. Potentially billions for their super rich friends.
They can if they sell off the running of it to the public sector. Potentially billions for their super rich friends.
even then why did the campaign group, like the current Foreign Sec, behave in such a deceptive fashion? why did they lie to the public like this?
Good question, but let's not forget Vote Leave was the Westminster representative in the campaign. The answer may well be in that observation.
Cameron and Osbourne played their part for the Westminster Remain campaign, by treating the public in such a manner.
Farage played a straight bat in comparison with his Grassroots Out campaign, not wanted by the Westminster pirates.
Good question, but let's not forget Vote Leave was the Westminster representative in the campaign. The answer may well be in that observation.
Cameron and Osbourne played their part for the Westminster Remain campaign, by treating the public in such a manner.
Farage played a straight bat in comparison with his Grassroots Out campaign, not wanted by the Westminster pirates.
all politicians tell lie after lie in order to get elected (and once they've been elected as well). it's up to the electorate to decide what's true and what isn't
Erm I don't think we got anywhere Zen you basically are in denial about the NHS message which now turns out to be a blatant lie
That's the problem the entire system and campaign is polluted by lies and more lies
Erm I don't think we got anywhere Zen you basically are in denial about the NHS message which now turns out to be a blatant lie
Who has lied anxious?
Who has lied anxious?
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