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ZenMaster
18 Jan 17 19:35
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Just seen this.

Pulling on the heart strings for the NHS.

But repeatedly suggesting that the Tories will break the promise of £350 million a week to help fund the NHS.

Hold on, when did the Tories make this promise?

Not that any promises were made but Vote Leave was a cross party campaign group.

This is a scandalous PPB.

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By:
Just Checking
When: 18 Jan 17 19:39
They didn't make any such promise, that's total rubbish. Sounds like the broadcast was as accurate as a C4 news bulletin.

Talk about "post truth"! Yhe only "truth posts" left are what I type into chit chat LaughWink
By:
Steve Voltage
When: 18 Jan 17 19:40
Labour Party finnish. 1.01(nap)
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 19:57
The Tories should use this as a club to put Labour out of their misery.

It's only a matter of time.
By:
A_T
When: 18 Jan 17 20:00
LEAVE promised the £350 million per week to the NHS: "let's give our NHS the £350 million the EU takes every week"
May is following a Brexit plan as promised by LEAVE
May et al would like to forget all about that promise

The rest of us we remember and WE'LL BE WATCHING Cool
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 20:23
'Vote Leave' had the slogan on the bus A_T

LEAVE did not promise anything, LEAVE was never one entity.

Some followed Vote Leave
Some followed Grassroots Out
Some followed Labour Leave
and so on......

Comprende ?
By:
anxious
When: 18 Jan 17 20:33
Your on dodgy ground here Zen the world and his wife know that 350 million was plastered all over the bus , the tories are such a bunch of liars and cheats that they will not fund the NHS anyway because they hate it because it doesn't make much of a profit for them and their greedy selfish pals
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 20:38
It was not a Tory bus anxious
It was a cross party campaign group.

Why are you trying to stitch the Tories up with the bus?
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 20:40
Gisela Stuart was the chair of Vote Leave

Yes she is a Labour MP as you know.
By:
mafeking
When: 18 Jan 17 20:41
anyone with any sense knew the point they were getting at anyway i.e we would be able to spend huge amount of money we send to brussels every week ourselves
By:
anxious
When: 18 Jan 17 20:44
I know very well who she is but that's not the issue here the leave campaign was dominated by the tories and right wing nationolists friends Ukip , the leave was funded by rich right wing tories , so if they had no intention of carrying out their promise why did they do it in the first place , because they kno it is a very emotive issue that people would support
By:
anxious
When: 18 Jan 17 20:45
The tories as usual lying to the British People like they do all the time
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 20:46
Quite mafeking, and let's not forget the document Vote Leave produced just to put the argument to bed.

National Health Service (Funding Target) Bill - The NHS would receive a £100m per week real-terms cash "transfusion", to be paid for by savings from leaving the EU


Again this can not be a promise, why? because Vote Leave was merely a cross party campaign group.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 20:48
I know very well who she is but that's not the issue here the leave campaign was dominated by the tories and right wing nationolists friends Ukip , the leave was funded by rich right wing tories , so if they had no intention of carrying out their promise why did they do it in the first place , because they kno it is a very emotive issue that people would support


And what promises are these anxious?
By:
flushgordon1
When: 18 Jan 17 20:48
labour are fecked, and that's no lie.
By:
anxious
When: 18 Jan 17 20:49
The promise on the bus for an extra 350 million for the NHS
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 20:49
The tories as usual lying to the British People like they do all the time


What have the Tories lied about anxious?
By:
Just Checking
When: 18 Jan 17 20:50
Zen, "Confucius say argue with Anxious exercise in futility, argument with rock more productive".
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 20:51
The promise on the bus for an extra 350 million for the NHS


That was Vote Leave a cross party campaign group.
I was under the impression you had understood this.

Gisela Stuart was the Chair of the group. A Labour MP.
Frank Field was in there as well anxious.
By:
saddo
When: 18 Jan 17 20:52
Anyone taking the claims of a disparate campaign group as a governmental promise must be wet behind the ears, or simply desperate.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 20:53
anxious seems to think Sir Nigel was part of Vote Leave.
By:
anxious
When: 18 Jan 17 20:53
their entire existence is based on lies and deceit , they and their friends in the banks , the establishment , the biased right wing press owned by foreign billionaires have used their classic tory con trick of divide and conquer for many years
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 20:56
Yes, yes yes anxious but let's get back to the big red bus.

It was not a Tory bus.
By:
anxious
When: 18 Jan 17 21:00
Ok then do you think the money saved by leaving the EU should fund an extra 350 million to the NHS as the message on the bus implied
By:
saddo
When: 18 Jan 17 21:03
No, I took it as normal political campaign hyperbole, as I did with the ruination speeches from Merkel, Obama et al.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 21:04
Every week? no?

Anyway the official roadmap laid out by Vote Leave before the vote clarified matters of what they were 'suggesting' ( not promising because they were just a campaign group ) said this.

National Health Service (Funding Target) Bill - The NHS would receive a £100m per week real-terms cash "transfusion", to be paid for by savings from leaving the EU


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36534802
By:
anxious
When: 18 Jan 17 21:06
So anybody can say anything then after an election or referendum they can say no we can say anything to get elected then then tell the idiots and the sheep will have to put up with it , no wonder you were big fans of the big fat clown that gets inaugurated on Friday
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 21:09
Vote Leave did not get elected anxious
Why?

a) Because it was not an election
b) Vote Leave will only ever be a campaign Group.

Campaign Groups don't get elected anxious.
By:
saddo
When: 18 Jan 17 21:10
Desperate I tell ya.
By:
anxious
When: 18 Jan 17 21:13
There is nothing desperate about it , im sure it will not be forgotten and whoever is in power will be held to account
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 21:13
Funny how they think campaign groups can force policy on Governments.
By:
anxious
When: 18 Jan 17 21:15
So why was it plastered all over the leave campaign bus ?
By:
saddo
When: 18 Jan 17 21:15
Obama promised we would be at the back of the queue for trade deals. That was a lie, will the moaners be taking issue with it?
By:
anxious
When: 18 Jan 17 21:17
Listen I actually voted to leave but I wasn't motivated by a little Englander mentality, I agree that our money should be spent by us on what we want but I also realise that it was now  Big lie about the NHS message
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 21:18
Actually, funny how they think Governments must adopt the slogans painted on the side of bus run by a campaign group, as policy.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 21:19
So why was it plastered all over the leave campaign bus ?


No it was plastered all over the VOTE LEAVE bus.

Please get it right anxious.

It was not plastered all over Sir Nigel's bus was it? You know the purple one.
By:
anxious
When: 18 Jan 17 21:21
The issue here is trust and in this case there is no trust just lies
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 21:22
Are you saying Vote Leave told lies?
By:
anxious
When: 18 Jan 17 21:23
Absolutley massive whoppers
By:
ZenMaster
When: 18 Jan 17 21:25
Which ones were the whoppiest anxious?
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