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Bring the Pilgrim Fathers back..
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there were more people living in London before the war and they got along pretty well without this vandalism
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even a boarded up property will sell
there are loads of folk waiting to snap these up |
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Who owns them Donny?
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too many single mothers in London, they have to live somewhere
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Let's all turn the clock back to the 1920's and 1930's when everything was pleasant and nice...
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Is there anyone you can't blame?
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if there were more people in London before the war than now, why have we been building all these houses ?
I don't know. |
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if they dont know who owns them that is a different matter, of course
i thought you were referring to folk choosing to board up and relocate ... |
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No Donny, i was supposing it better to leave London than see a boarded up house in a ghetto as a possible home.
I would say buy-to-leave covers a good percentage, inheritance of property via probate can take a long time to sort out, run down properties previously rented and the owners are not wanting to sell and can't afford to repair. |
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i think any boarded up home would be welcomed and easily fixed
but accept the legal minefields attached make it impossible |
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if there were more people in London before the war than now, why have we been building all these houses ?
We have caught up again haven't we? expected to surpass pre war figures. Before the war there were large native families living under one roof. Maybe a family of 10 in one house. Then came the war with evacuations of the children, conscriptions etc. Now we have broken family's, one family spit into two, student accommodation etc. |
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In Holland they have a law preventing property becoming vacant for any significant length of time
possibly 6 months but I forget exactly. |
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if a person owns a property they have the right to leave it vacant, it has nothing to do with anyone else
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This was an Amsterdam council proposal wasn't it BM? did they implement it.
THey were going to fine home owners for leaving a property vacant for longer than 6 months without a legitimate excuse. Bleeding barmy, but they do eat horses. |
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How many people on the dole are in jail and the council are still paying for their homes.Find that number someone but i wouldn't bank on finding it.
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Where i stay they only build 2 bedroom council houses well flats little culd de sacs with 2 up 2 down.
Why not just build a few tower blocks with modern building skills im sure they could make them look ok and house a lot more than new streets with 10-20 houses in them. |
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The population of London had not soared at all, the extra numbers come from changing the names of places to ‘London Boroughs’
When certain places close to London go from half decent to sh*tholes, the rest of the county don’t want house prices to drop for that area, so they get the sh*thole moved to London, where prices mean f*ck all, by creating 16 new London Boroughs. The electoral register shows: The voting population of the 17 boroughs that are actually in LONDON is 2,565, 481 The voting population of the other 16 boroughs that make up GREATER LONDON is 2,794,602 The other 16 boroughs came about with the death of Middlesex, and the invention of ‘London Boroughs’ that were on the fringe, but actually in the home counties. Barking and all points east were in Essex, now, right out to Hornchurch, they are classed as “east London“ Croydon was in Surrey, now it’s in “south west London“ Bromley was in Kent, now it’s in “south east London“ Enfield was in Middlesex, now it’s in “north London” Proper east London only has 3 Boroughs, Hackney, Newham and Tower Hamlets, with 507,500 voters. Add the three “make out” London Boroughs of Barking & Dagenham, Redbridge and Havering and the population of voters goes up another 488,690 to 996,190 ============================================ The left are STILL screaming that the ‘LEAVE’ vote back on that wonderful night in June when ’ONLY 37%’ of voters wanted out, wasn’t enough. I find this odd because figures show quite clearly that Sadiq Khan was elected to be Mayor of London with only 21.43% of the total London electorate over all 33 Boroughs, Do you recall the screams of ’THAT’S NOT ENOUGH’ from the loony left? No, neither do I. Strange that. |
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The London Mayoral elections have a supplementary voting system so your comparison is misleading.
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bad - after the rapture, there will be a lot of empty houses. property will become abundant, no need for more housing.
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Bad.
It wont happen - in our lifetime. Greedy people giving money to other greedy people so they and other greedy people can make money. I see Simon Bazalgette is the cousin of Peter Bazalgette, of whom the loathsome slug Stephen Fry said 'his great grandfather once pumped **** out of our homes, but he now pumps it back in again' (owner of the Big Brother Co. etc). Eh. |
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Kempton always was a working man's track. Joe Gormley as director? That would not have happened under the Jockey Club. I once took a job in Sunbury because the course was there.
Concrete, brick and tarmac - and an endless flow of people. Is that your choice? Hell no. |
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The people of Sunbury must be looking forward to total gridlock in rush hour.
No doubt those that can move away from London will, who would want to live there? |
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The home will all be bought by Qataris, Chinese and Russians, then rented out if they can be bothered
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Anyone know what the crowd was there today?
I'm assuming it was chocca, what with all these Kempton lovers that have suddenly sprung up out of nowhere, though I thought the going would be softer with all the Crocodile tears being cried. |
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The racing writer of the year Tom Kerr savages the Jockey Club and grasping developers in the RP ...
YOU CAN almost imagine how the grandees on the Jockey Club board convinced themselves it was a good idea to sell off one of the sport's most treasured racecourses for housing. You can picture them sitting there, perhaps in the sumptuous Jockey Club Rooms in Newmarket, the walls lined with priceless artwork, as one by one they all agreed there was simply nothing else for it, the sport needed £100 million more than it needed historic Kempton. The track had to go. For the good of racing, you understand. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Never in my years of following racing have I seen a more misguided, crude, treacherous act of vandalism, and all perpetrated by the so-called guardians of British racing. This is gamekeeper turned poacher and the poacher has turned up at the estate with a barrel of napalm to burn the place to the ground. Each and every person associated with the decision should hang their heads in shame. How can they claim this is for the good of the sport? The Jockey Club has framed this decision as a commercial imperative, but the financial case for closing Kempton is far from being made. It would provide £100m, maybe more, towards £500m of planned investment over the next ten years, but the Jockey Club has failed to adequately explain why it is essential to pop Kempton on the table like a poker player chucking the wife's car keys into the pot. An all-weather track will be built in Newmarket and a plan to "transform" Sandown has been announced. If you think that is an equitable swap you're more than likely drinking your breakfast coffee in Suffolk, but what this is really about is a racecourse group unable to carry out its investment plans without cashing in one of its most valuable and profitable assets. Some will see that as pragmatic business sense but many more as evidence of a group that has lost its way. If we do accept that a sale of something is necessary, perhaps the Jockey Club could instead look to some of its considerable non-racecourse assets, which encompass 4,500 acres of land at Newmarket, 550 acres of land at Lambourn and 90 properties, including the aforementioned Jockey Club Rooms, which turned over just £1.24m in 2015. As has been pointed out elsewhere, the art collection that adorns the Jockey Club Rooms alone is worth tens of millions of pounds. That is an almost priceless piece of racing's heritage, just like Kempton, but unlike Kempton it is enjoyed principally by the rich, powerful and well-connected. The Jockey Club Rooms is a private members' club. Naturally, its art was never going to go. That's not how things work in this country. £100m for Kempton is not even a deal too good to turn down. The racecourse is worth so much more alive than dead. It sits amid the largest urban conurbation in western Europe and perhaps the richest city in history. That means it is an irresistible prize for property developers, who would pave over Hyde Park, turn the British Museum into a Westfield shopping centre and convert the Houses of Parliament to luxury flats if they could. That desirable location should make Kempton, with its excellent transport links, one of the sport's most prized possessions. Clearly it is underperforming: the track, while profitable and heaving on its busiest days, is frequently half-deserted. Yet I was there in 2010 among thousands of racegoers on a Wednesday night, lured to a winter all-weather meeting by free tickets. The atmosphere was tremendous, and is it not better to have several thousand eating, betting, drinking and - most crucially - enjoying racing, than several hundred paying for entry to a graveyard? Yet regular free nights were never trialled. It seemed sometimes as if the Jockey Club were happy enough to let Kempton rake in the millions in media rights payments rather than worry too much why it wasn't appealing more to the people on its doorstep. And as for those people: if Kempton goes, there will be just two racecourses inside the M25, an area home to around ten million. 'We must stand up and fight' Meanwhile, the Jockey Club proposes building a third racecourse in Newmarket, population 20,000. What a way to promote the sport. This is not just a commercial argument, however; it is an issue that brings to mind the hoary old Wilde quip about people who know the price of everything but the value of nothing. Racecourses are about more than just numbers, whatever philistine developers and detached racing grandees believe. A city without sport, without culture, without green spaces and relief from the sheer scale and crush of the place, is no place worth living. This is why the leader of Spelthorne council, who recognises this fundamental truth, is in the bizarre position of being the protector of Kempton against the Jockey Club and its property developer allies. Worst of all, though, is what this means for the King George VI Chase, arguably the fairest test of chasing excellence there is. This move will, in effect, kill it as a great race. Oh yes, transfer it to Sandown, where the similarities to Kempton extend as far as having grass and fences, and it will do all right: still draw a crowd, good horses, all that. But Kempton, as Desert Orchid's owner said this week, is unique because it rewards brilliance. Without that distinction the King George's prestige will be diminished, and what was the best chase outside of Cheltenham will become just another Grade 1. The significance of its history will fade and in times long hence no-one will speak of the epic King George legends of yesteryear, of Kauto Star and Dessie, because the track at which they achieved their feats of wonder is all Tarmac and Tescos, their towering achievements rendered perfectly irrelevant to the future. Eventually, many years down the line, there will just be a few old men left to carry the flicker of Kempton's past with them, to recall roaring home a great champion in the crisp cold air of Boxing Day. What will even be left of racing in that distant future? If a track as storied and profitable as Kempton, a track we all thought was in the safest of hands, cannot avoid redevelopment then where can? I am a believer in the need for cities to develop, to build and rejuvenate, but Kempton is not a failing business ripe for the culling or some derelict antique being kept alive for sentimental reasons. It is profitable. It is functional. It is loved. It is important to a local community and to a nationwide sport. Even at its worst, on those bleak winter evenings with a few hundred diehards huddled in the grandstand, it offers escapism from the vast city pressing at its gates. And at its best, on those frost-tinged Boxing Days when timeless heroes were forged, it was nothing short of glorious. For sporting, civic and historical reasons, it would be an appalling error to knock it down for overpriced houses. Yet this is the way the country is going. In London alone we stand poised to lose our last greyhound stadium, 40 per cent of music venues have shut in the past decade, dozens of historic pubs close every year. Millwall are in effect being evicted from their ground. The cause in every case: not lack of local use, but greed. Kempton is not an outlier; it sits smack bang in the middle of a trend that says 'knock it all down and sell it to the highest bidder'. When even the Jockey Club is joining the side of the destroyers it might seem like there is little hope left, but we must stand up and fight this. If we don't one day we may realise everything that was ever worth protecting is gone, ground to dust beneath the developers' bulldozers. SIGN HERE IF YOU VALUE THE DIVERSITY OF BRITISH RACING : https://www.change.org/p/stop-the-closure-of-kempton-park-racecourse |
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I could accept it more if they had said we have to close and take the money but will invest in NH as that is the quality product from Kempton yet instead we are getting another A/W track for more dross racing.
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Breedingmad 13 Jan 17 09:40
The London Mayoral elections have a supplementary voting system so your comparison is misleading. London Mayoral Election 48.45% - turnout 51.55% - couldn’t be bothered ======================= 1,148,716 - Khan 909,755 - Goldsmith 150,763 - Berry 120,005 - Pidgeon 94,373 - Whittle 53,055 - Walker 37,007 - Galloway 31,372 - Golding 20,537 - Harris 13,325 - Furness 13,202 - Zylinski 4,941 - Love =================== 2,595,961 - total votes 2,763,122 - didn’t vote ================== 5,360,083 - Total electorate 1,148,716 - Khan ================== 21.43% |
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King George needs to be run on a similar course to Kempton, flat, sharp, right handed, in a capital city, and likely to provide decent ground at that time of year.
Only one to tick all the boxes is Musselburgh |
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Zylinski lives in Eaing..... I have been to his house…… very interesting place…… you can look it up online
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I often used to wonder why there were so many racecourses and so few meetings
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