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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-38365729
Japan has one of the lowest rates of gun crime in the world. In 2014 there were just six gun deaths, compared to 33,599 in the US.
Japanese police officers rarely use guns and put much greater emphasis on martial arts - all are expected to become a black belt in judo. They spend more time practising kendo (fighting with bamboo swords) than learning how to use firearms.
"The response to violence is never violence, it's always to de-escalate it. Only six shots were fired by Japanese police nationwide [in 2015],"
The result is a very low level of gun ownership - 0.6 guns per 100 people in 2007, according to the Small Arms Survey, compared to 6.2 in England and Wales and 88.8 in the US.
Wow. Hugely impressive!
Japan has one of the lowest rates of gun crime in the world. In 2014 there were just six gun deaths, compared to 33,599 in the US.
Japanese police officers rarely use guns and put much greater emphasis on martial arts - all are expected to become a black belt in judo. They spend more time practising kendo (fighting with bamboo swords) than learning how to use firearms.
"The response to violence is never violence, it's always to de-escalate it. Only six shots were fired by Japanese police nationwide [in 2015],"
The result is a very low level of gun ownership - 0.6 guns per 100 people in 2007, according to the Small Arms Survey, compared to 6.2 in England and Wales and 88.8 in the US.
Wow. Hugely impressive!
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Gun deaths in the UK are pretty low as well arent they ?
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i mentioned this on here the other day
i doubt it will get much coverage by gun lobby usa |
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Probably the cleanest country of note in terms of drugs cheating in sport too.
Suicide rate is very high though for a country with so few guns. Two thirds of the gun deaths in the US are suicides. |
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To underline the taboo attached to inappropriate use of weapons, an officer who used his gun to kill himself was charged posthumously with a criminal offence. He carried out the act while on duty - policemen never carry weapons off-duty, leaving them at the station when they finish their shift.
BBC. Interesting that here suicide attempts are no longer an offence. I think it should be taught that suicide is selfish and criminal ala murder. Might save a few...tough love but if it helps.. We seem to have done away with any kind of judgement/stigma attached to self harm. |
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Suicide isn't selfish. It's a result of mental illness.
It's more selfish to consider suicide selfish imho. |
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Suicide rates in Japan and other South East Asian countries are very high I think to do with cultural issues, they keep their feelings close to their chest and don't like to complain even when in financial trouble, bottled up emotions lead to suicide, and isolation as well for older people, saw a documentary a while back on suicide rates in Japan, called Japan's Suicide Forest or something like that, on youtube.
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Clyde - I was suicidal 10x a day for months/years. Somehow I made the decision not to do it for ethical reasons. I'm still here.
 It's a selfish act. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FDSdg09df8 |
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Injera I thought you was quite bright, but that is a very wrong and strange post.
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i saw a documentary about a japanese man (he was a scientist i think) who was studying in a forest. he came across so many people about to kill themselves or dead bodies in this forest he ended up not worrying about his research but going to the forest purely to try and talk any poor souls about to do themselves in out of their action and to locate bodies so that relatives would find out what had happened to their loved ones. it was incredibly sad to watch.
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Imagine if they had guns like the US. Suicide rate would go through the roof.
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SH - I feel strongly about suicide. It's a choice no matter how ill one is. A choice to pull the trigger or not to. Noone else is involved. I used to battle with the next 10 minutes. For years..
Countless times I chose to live despite wanting to die. It's a decision made for the greater good. I was on drugs/saw psychiatrists. It was all down to me. What choice would I make. To give in or fight. I chose to fight. Suicide has become acceptable. It's not. It's wrong. Anyway, off topic... |
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Suicide was considered a matter of honour in Japan not that long ago. The opposite of being selfish.
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6.2 guns per 100 people in England and Wales seems a lot. Must be the mean what's the median?
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If you are not in complete control of your mind/mental state, how is your fault that you kill yourself, it's like people who suffer from psychosis/schizophrenia, when they suffer from psychotic episodes they hear voices in their heads telling them to kill people, they are not in conscious control of what they are doing, and neither are people who commit suicide, depression is a mental health issue as well.
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Many gun owners will have multiple weapons.
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Agreed SH but ultimately it's a choice. To take the pills/pull the trigger, jump or to say 'f*** this I'm carrying on'.
I just feel that suicide attempts should be criminalised like they used to be. If it saves a few then good. It's certainly an epidemic which is tragic.  |
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If these Islamic suicide bombers just killed themselves personally I wouldn't have a problem. But these nutters are intent on taking innocent people with full lives with them.
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but injera it's not a choice made by a person with their full faculties and what's more, if somebody is at a point in their life where they feel suicidal, do you really want to compound issues by punishing people them further as well when they failed? you are more likely to find people in that state try even harder to make it work, sorry but it really is such a daft proposition.
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Your life is yours. It's not for other people to pass judgement on it if it doesn't harm them. It's the passing of judgement that is the selfish act. Another term for it is bitching.
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what possible difference would a criminal conviction make to someone on the verge of suicide? its highly unlikely to enter the mind of someone in such a state and if they survived a suicide attempt only to be prosecuted it may send them over the edge again.
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Deterrent?
As I say, if it saves just one... What stopped me was the ethical implications. Those left behind. The total failure of giving up and pulling that trigger. The death, the murder of a human being (me). We seem to have moved away from personal responsibility. Everything is a disease or 'not your fault'. I recall working on a farm many, many years ago. I was on top of a haystack. The ONLY thing that stopped me from jumping to my death was a sense that it would have been wrong. |
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That's aside from the fact that suicide is a mental illness. It takes plenty of courage to pull the trigger imo. and if you do what does that say about your state of mind? Then there are those whose life is not worth living like the very sick.
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Japan: one fifth of employees at risk of death from overwork – report
Death in other ways but that gun stat is low do we know how many got ninja killed ? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/08/japan-one-fifth-of-employees-at-risk-of-death-from-overwork-report |
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jolly - a suicide takes planning. It takes effort. Organisation. Believe me, it can't just happen and certainly takes initiative! So to suggest the person is powerless and overcome by events is wrong.
Any potential suicidal person makes a choice. All I'm saying to that person is choose a different option. You're stronger than you think.. |
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Injera that is how you felt. That's your journey and your thoughts and everyone is different. Just because you felt that way doesn't mean other people should and I strongly disagree.
If my wife or my kids or my parents were to kill themselves the last thing I would do is think they were selfish, I would just feel very sad that they felt so low. |
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Fair enough Clyde.
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Personally, I hope that if I get some debilitating illness I've got the bottle to top myself.
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but If I've got something I can fight then I hope I've got the mental strength to stay positive.
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Choose to.
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Injera 09 Jan 17 18:12 Joined: 04 Jan 03 | Topic/replies: 9,681 | Blogger: Injera's blog
jolly - a suicide takes planning. It takes effort. Organisation. Believe me, it can't just happen and certainly takes initiative! So to suggest the person is powerless and overcome by events is wrong. Any potential suicidal person makes a choice. All I'm saying to that person is choose a different option. You're stronger than you think..Happy You made a choice but others could be worse than what you ever imagined who make the other choice |
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The result is a very low level of gun ownership
 Yes all those criminals don't bother with guns cos they know the police only have bamboo sticks |
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Japan: one fifth of employees at risk of death from overwork – report
Good point. Article on bbc the other day regarding employees sleeping in random places during the day in order to work different hours. Sleeping on railway station benches etc.... Modern day slavery |
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Japan: one fifth of employees at risk of death from overwork – report
Good point. Article on bbc the other day regarding employees sleeping in random places during the day in order to work different hours. Sleeping on railway station benches etc.... Modern day slavery |
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didn't think i pressed the button twice
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I would like to know how many snapped knecks where handed out bu the FEDS
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or necks*
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who kknows?
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Takahashi, 24, had worked more than 100 hours of overtime a month leading up to her death. In September, a labour standards inspection office in Tokyo said she had been driven to kill herself due to stress brought on by long working hours.
Japan has spent years struggling to address karoshi. About 2,000 people a year kill themselves due to work-related stress, according to the government, while other victims die from heart attacks, strokes and other conditions brought on by spending too much time at work. Weeks before she died on Christmas Day 2015, Takahashi posted on social media: “I want to die.” Another message read: “I’m physically and mentally shattered.” |