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I have to laugh at how products such as Amazon's Echo are becoming mainstream simply because product makers tell people they 'need' them.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38553643
Here is a story about a young girl who told the Echo to get her a doll's house and cookies, which it then ordered online....
Only for the newsreader to recount the story over transmission that then activated Echo devices across San Diego.
All these devices listening into conversations is bad enough, but having them activated by other people away from your property is dystopian.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38553643
Here is a story about a young girl who told the Echo to get her a doll's house and cookies, which it then ordered online....
Only for the newsreader to recount the story over transmission that then activated Echo devices across San Diego.
All these devices listening into conversations is bad enough, but having them activated by other people away from your property is dystopian.
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'Alexa....Are you spying on me?'
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I read a piece only the other week about a toy that had to be recalled as it was listening to everything kids were doing and saying and passing the information to other companies.
The devices were dolls that encouraged the kids to speak openly and ask it questions that it then answered using the internet. It also watched them with use of cameras and was apparently easily hackable via bluetooth so pedos could hijack them and speak directly to the kids. Its unreal how people are just accepting anything on the basis of making life simpler....and much much more sinister. |
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Dave: Open the pod bay doors, HAL.
HAL: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that. |
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Hysterically funny
https://youtu.be/MYCJFXOrkTU |
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all the while everything in every house hold gets recorded and sifted through by the private sector and then the public sector takes whats left and finds a reason to lock you up.
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I'm a bit geeky but I would not have one of these little spy devices in the house.
Something that sits there 24/7 listening to everything around it. How could that possibly have any privacy implications or be misused? I didn't even know you could order things just by speaking to it, that sounds total insanity. Does it tell you the price? Dolls house isn't specific in any way, Amazon now has so many ebay type seller feeds I've seen searches come back literally in the 1000s. And some prices appear the amazon equivalent of trap bets. Hugely inflated and I'm guessing it's to catch people not paying attention. And no confirmation unless you enable it? So a babbling child can accidentally order. WHAT!!! |
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Its crazy.
Data is equivalent to power nowadays and all companies want to harvest and analyze it with greater scrutiny. If you hand over responsibility to anyone, either private or public sector you are going to get shafted well and truly. |
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JC
It's not listening to everything ! It only answers a specific question asked, but only when prompted. And this prompt gas to be made ecah time a question is asked. It's not a listening bug  |
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To purchase anything, a preset digital code has to be stated first.
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Thats not true Facts.
There was a murder case in america recently and the Echo witnessed it and they attempted to get the info from amazon who didnt want the negative publicity of the fact they record everything. The device was hacked to get the info the prosecution required from recollection. The point is these devices do listen so as to determine when to act out a function. |
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I can do the same thing on my Iphone with Siri or the dictation function on my Mac
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Dustybin
Bullshit |
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You have to prompt it to ' listen '
It's not a recording bug ffs |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38450658 This was the outline of the case. Its not that the device doesnt listen, its what the company does with the info it collects. After all the device has to know when NOT to act and can only determine that if it listens to everything. |
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What !?
It's not sitting there listening to everything, it's not a bug !!!! It responds to a specific audible command. You can ask iPad/iPhone a question to google. Doesn't mean your device is listening to everything To speak to someone on a landline phone you have to dial their number . Doesn't mean the phone is sitting there ' listening ' |
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The "always on" machine makes recordings of audio it hears from a fraction of a second before it detects a wake word - either Alexa or Amazon - until it judges the command to be over.
How does it record audio before the trigger word? Does it turn back time or is it already recorded? |
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Although no recordings are meant to be made at other times, the device often becomes activated when it misinterprets speech as being its wake command.
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How does it record a fraction of a second before it receives its wake up command . Is it also psychic ?
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It is well known the security services, Police and anyone they give permission to can listen to you using your phone anytime they choose, even if it is switched off.
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How can you use your phone if it's switched off ?
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Facts • January 10, 2017 1:19 PM GMT
How does it record a fraction of a second before it receives its wake up command . Is it also psychic ? This is entirely my point. For it to record only data containing trigger words it has to record everything to access anything before it. Samsung have already been pulled over tvs doing this, another company have been ordered to do a product recall because of its rolling T'Cs that supposedly allowed them to act as they wished once a device was initiated and amazon themselves admitted years ago to charge different customers different prices based on how much data they held on them. To swallow the company spiel that essentially says, 'dont worry everyone you can trust us' is a hiding to sorrow. |
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We're killing the planet with all this unnecessary rubbish we keep buying there will be
a price to pay |
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The trigger word is to get it to go and find an answer. Either from eg Google or Spotify ( music list you may have preset)
It's not to answer something you've said an hour ago . It's just programmed voice recognition . So if you muffled your question , or have a heavy accent , it won't understand what you saying , and therefore won't be able to go and ' search' for the answer. To repeat its not a listening ' bug' |
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Facts
This might interest you. . http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/4fb719b3-9335-46a1-8309-8d0cab1c3ddd |
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Breeding mad
I agree. I ditched my new chargeable Hoover. It refused to pick the dust up |
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Even given companies the benefit of the doubt these devices still record data it wasnt 'intended' to.
To say profit finding organisations wont maximise profit potential from this data is naive. |
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On a slightly more positive side, these voice control units like Echo/Alexa have great potential for helping the elderly and disabled, especially being able to define your own triggers/actions via the "If This Then That" integration.
Very much in its infancy at the moment I think, be interesting to see how it develops |
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Yes, I'm seriously looking toward to having a meaningful relation with Alexa.
Needs further programming though. viz :- Me - Alexa, how are you today ?' Alexa - Great, thank you, I hope you're doing well too ' Me - Alexa ' do you want to make love ?, Alexa - ' Sorry, I can't find an answer to the question I heard '  |
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It'll probably have record of all your w4nking history and have shuttled all that data off for analysis to determine what stage risk you are to society and at what point in time the police will need to be sent to collect you for incarceration.
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I was told it sends you blind, but never realised it was against the law !!
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that depends on what the content is that creates intent.
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'Alexa... talk dirty to me.'
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What did she reply ?
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dustybin 10 Jan 17 15:40
that depends on what the content is that creates intent. Photos of Ted Rogers |
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Not illegal....yet
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He was in the guardian.
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Rubbish
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