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Roger The Butler
07 Jan 17 23:56
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So I wanted to pay off a mortgage sub account with TSB, for which I have internet banking. My money is with Lloyds, for which I have internet banking. Sounds simple yes?

I phone TSB yesterday to get a redemption figure, and ask how I can pay it off. They say "You can do a transfer to this sort code and account number via internet banking".

So I log on last night to Lloyds and go to transfer the money. But it won't let me as it is too much. With the daily payment limit for their internet banking it will take me making payments on three different days to get it done, over which time the redemption figure will have changed twice anyway. So I call them and ask how, seeing as they won't let me transfer my own money out of my account, I can pay off this mortgage. "You can go into one of our branches and ask for them to make a CHAPS payment for you".

So I phone TSB mortgage line last night at 8pm, which their website says is open til 9pm, to find it is shut. So I phone their internet banking number - which is still open - and ask if I can pay the amount off over the phone with them. "No sir, you need to phone the mortgage line to do that"

So I phone the mortgage line this morning having been unable thanks to Lloyds to pay the whole amount by bank transfer, to get a new redemption figure as it will have changed from Friday to Saturday and ask if I can pay it with a debit card over the phone. "No sir, we can't take redemption payments, only overpayments".

So I go into town just to find a Lloyds branch and ask them to do a CHAPS payment to get this over with. They take all my details and go through security, etc, before asking me if I realise they are going to charge me £30 for the privilege. "No I didn't know that, and seeing as I am only taking this action because your online bods won't let me transfer my own money without having to log on on three consecutive days to reach the amount I need, I am not giving you £30 so cancel that".

The bastards between them have just made it as difficult as possible to the point that I am going to have to drive to one of the number of rapidly decreasing TSB branches (decreasing because of course you can do so bloody much online now can't you, as I am finding out) on Monday and write a bloody cheque as that is the easiest and quickest way to get it done without people charging me to do things with my own money or jump through hoops to use it. And these b'stards were all one company just a couple of years ago. Welcome to the age of internet banking.
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Report Gallivanter January 8, 2017 12:09 AM GMT
Diabolical behaviour. (Them not you.)

I hate going into banks, they always try to sell me something.
Report The Leopard January 8, 2017 12:11 AM GMT
to RTB.....Precis ?
Report Roger The Butler January 8, 2017 12:12 AM GMT
Hey?
Report Gallivanter January 8, 2017 12:15 AM GMT
Leo doesn't like things being too precise...
Report Roger The Butler January 8, 2017 12:16 AM GMT
Ah, ok:
Banks are w@nkers and internet banking is a big crock of sh1t.
Report The Leopard January 8, 2017 2:17 AM GMT
Thanks Wink
Report Johnny_Mustang January 8, 2017 8:09 AM GMT
Appalling behaviour. I recently tried to transfer a four-figure sum (only £8,000 and therefore not 'crime of the century' material) from a Lloyds account to Nationwide. The transfer was blocked and I immediately had LLoyds fraud department on the phone asking all manner of questions until they were satisfied it was kosher.

Pathetic waste of my time.
Report dustybin January 8, 2017 8:50 AM GMT
Apparently one of the main banks has been predicted to fail during 2017 following a hack and subsequent run.
Will that make you feel better?
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 8, 2017 8:59 AM GMT
Never had a problem with my bank (satander), any time i need to move a decent sum of money they send me a text to my phone to confirm and i have to enter a code.
Report scandanavian_haven January 8, 2017 9:26 AM GMT
CHAPS transfers are £25

but yeah, would have done the same on principle.
Report scandanavian_haven January 8, 2017 9:30 AM GMT
actually that's with some banks, lloyds are £30.Grin

I recently had a problem receiving a bacs transfer, literally took 10 days longer than it should to be cleared, meant to be 3 clear working days
Report lfc1971 January 8, 2017 9:44 AM GMT
Santander asked for a fee to finalise paying off my mortgage and the return of deeds.
Think it was about £30
Told them I was paying the outstanding mortgage and not the £30 pounds for the deeds, they said it might affect my credit rating!
Told them I wasn't worried about that and payed the remainder of mortgage by check, not including £30 and got the deeds a few weeks later
Report Facts January 8, 2017 11:06 AM GMT
Johnny.
You wouldn't think it was a waste of time , if your account had been hacked, and you ended up losing £8k !
Report SPOT THE DOG January 8, 2017 12:01 PM GMT
Roger The Butler i have been down that road myself
Report Big Boss January 8, 2017 1:15 PM GMT
write a CHEQUE.

end of fred
Report donny osmond January 8, 2017 3:25 PM GMT
try getting a settlement quote for a cheque clearing date that you have
little control over, yep you can post it early if you knew the money was there
and its all been planned

but if you get a little windfall or have an investment mature and its better
than you expected and seek to minimise interest payments on
a long term mortgage....

its all a nightmare

surely they know their customers well enough having asked on every visit if you
would like a mortgage quote, ffs


surely they can set up payments to bona fide mortgage accounts free of charge
for their known customers, its not asking much
Report lfc1971 January 8, 2017 3:31 PM GMT
Het a quote on what's outstanding, Go in and write a cheque. that's the job done
Report donny osmond January 8, 2017 3:31 PM GMT
anyone that has suffered what roger has will know of the sheer frustration

chin up !
Report donny osmond January 8, 2017 3:35 PM GMT
you cant lfc because the balance amount has changed between writing cheque and it clearing

you can get a settlement based on writing a cheque and it clearing in 7 days, ....but
they stiff you 7 days interest .........they can transfer the money from your account
in 2 hours, but want £25/30 or will transfer up to £25k free of charge in 2 hours
Report lfc1971 January 8, 2017 3:36 PM GMT
If you go into your local Santander branch they might try and ask you to phone head office using their freephones in the corner of the bank.
ignore this, I pretended to be hard of hearing and asked the girl to do it for me.
She did this in the office and I wrote the cheque,
It's simple if you play the game a little to suit yourself and don't have them making you do their job for them
Report lfc1971 January 8, 2017 3:38 PM GMT
They asked for an extra £30 from me I said no I didn't care about that, hinted it would effect my credit rating.
and getting the deeds.
it's all nonsense
Report lfc1971 January 8, 2017 3:42 PM GMT
I got the quote that the girl was given on the office phone before she knew how I would pay, I then wrote the cheque
I then stopped the direct debit and asked them to let me know when they had the deeds
they did this in a few weeks
Report donny osmond January 8, 2017 3:42 PM GMT
doesnt solve the problem lfc

why did bank have your deeds anyway, i thought
that had died out yonks ago

or perhaps you are talking about something that happened before
the banks started being extra crass
Report lfc1971 January 8, 2017 3:44 PM GMT
went in and picked the deeds up from the local branch that weekend, one of the best weekends of my life
Report lfc1971 January 8, 2017 3:46 PM GMT
I can't remember why the bank had the deeds, my solicitor had them at one time but he had to stand down for professional misconduct and everything in his offices taken away centrally
Report lfc1971 January 8, 2017 3:53 PM GMT
The head of solicitors phoned me to let me know about this and I quietly tried to inquire what he had done but they wouldn't tell me, of course.
but heard it was some property scam he was involved in,
Report lfc1971 January 8, 2017 3:55 PM GMT
anyway a number of years later I left it to Santander to track the deeds down and I was surprised to find they managed this easily. without the £30 : )
Report lfc1971 January 8, 2017 3:58 PM GMT
I seem to recall Santander wanted me to use a solicitor to redeem the mortgage, that had slipped my mind.
I ignored that as well and wrote a cheque.
Report donny osmond January 8, 2017 4:00 PM GMT
because deeds have little value today compared to a few years back

banks used to charge to look after them, ffs
Report donny osmond January 8, 2017 4:01 PM GMT
yep, had you won a few bob on here and wanted to pay it off early
you would have an understanding of what the problem is
Report lfc1971 January 8, 2017 4:03 PM GMT
I did pay it off early donny
Report donny osmond January 8, 2017 4:12 PM GMT
well they charged you interest if you wrote a cheque, unless you had current account
and mortgage with them
Report lfc1971 January 8, 2017 4:17 PM GMT
I don't see how, I wrote the cheque for the quote given to me by the Santander woman clerk after she had phoned up for me at the local branch.
I think I walked from the office and handed the cheque over to the teller
Report lfc1971 January 8, 2017 4:18 PM GMT
I didn't have a current account with them
Report lfc1971 January 8, 2017 4:19 PM GMT
my mortgage was with abbey national which became Santander? I think ?
I've had other mortgages :)
Report Facts January 9, 2017 9:17 PM GMT
lfc1977

You don't have to start a new post every time you start a new sentence.
Report Facts January 9, 2017 9:18 PM GMT
or 1971 Happy
Report Johnny_Mustang January 9, 2017 9:47 PM GMT
Facts, you don't have to start a new post every time you tell lfc191 not to start a new post every time he starts a new sentence Grin
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