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With the sad, premature demise of George Michael I asked myself this question.
The tributes are pouring in for his undoubted musical talent and often under reported acts of kindness. His life was however blighted with illegal activity some of which (the drugs) brought about his death.
When a person dies should we always gloss over their faults in praise of the good they have done? Is there a line to be drawn? Obviously there is because noone now will praise Savile for his fundraising..
I wonder where that line is though. Clearly the bad that GM did is being forgotten for now.
The tributes are pouring in for his undoubted musical talent and often under reported acts of kindness. His life was however blighted with illegal activity some of which (the drugs) brought about his death.
When a person dies should we always gloss over their faults in praise of the good they have done? Is there a line to be drawn? Obviously there is because noone now will praise Savile for his fundraising..
I wonder where that line is though. Clearly the bad that GM did is being forgotten for now.
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Some people deserve a bit of slack because their talents outweigh their personal faults.
Then there's Allardyce
Then there's Allardyce
He hung around Male toilets looking for Likeways Men ,was out of his brains half the time on some form of drugs 
Hardly in Saveloys League imvho .
Hardly in Saveloys League imvho .
When they start fiddling with kids in my book. On the scale of moral misdemeanours drugs is right up there with using the wrong fork with your stater for me.
Anything goes these days case, we must teach the kids that his sexual lifestyle was quite normal and acceptable.
Are we sure the drugs led to his death? Is there basis for that or is it just tabloid speculation?
I think there just has to be fair balance. I think there's a bit of emphasis now on George's good points. Firstly, because he seems to be one of the rare breed who gave a lot away and helped a lot of people out but wasn't your typical charidee type, flaunting his kindness. And secondly because he had been horrendously treated by the tabloid press with every indiscretion or imperfection exaggerated to make it look like he was re-creating Sodom and Gomorrah. I think there's a lot of good old fashioned guilt coming out now.
At the end of the day, what did GM do to harm anyone? He got behind the wheel when he shouldn't have done, took some drugs but is that it? If you dug enough into anyone's life you'd find something to be offended at.
I think there just has to be fair balance. I think there's a bit of emphasis now on George's good points. Firstly, because he seems to be one of the rare breed who gave a lot away and helped a lot of people out but wasn't your typical charidee type, flaunting his kindness. And secondly because he had been horrendously treated by the tabloid press with every indiscretion or imperfection exaggerated to make it look like he was re-creating Sodom and Gomorrah. I think there's a lot of good old fashioned guilt coming out now.
At the end of the day, what did GM do to harm anyone? He got behind the wheel when he shouldn't have done, took some drugs but is that it? If you dug enough into anyone's life you'd find something to be offended at.
Too many people are offended by stuff which should be nobody else's business.
Spot on Foin
Gay and took drugs
"nothing to see here move along"
Gay and took drugs
"nothing to see here move along"
GM didn't harm anyone AFAIK - his legacy is intact
but how many more celebs do we have to hear "died peacefully" when they were in fact stoned out of their minds?
but how many more celebs do we have to hear "died peacefully" when they were in fact stoned out of their minds?
He's a celeb who was almost boastful of going harvesting men on the heath. If a hetro celeb announced his or her enthusiasm for going dogging regularly, the press would also have a field day, but without the accompanying accusations of hetrophobia.
I didn't really like George as a singer but when I read about his random acts of kindness I've appreciated him a lot more.
Who cares what a person gets up in their private lives, as others have mentioned as long as no kids or animals are hurt and it's done discreetly then it's none of my business.
Who cares what a person gets up in their private lives, as others have mentioned as long as no kids or animals are hurt and it's done discreetly then it's none of my business.
newspapers exploit his talent, then his faults and now his death
news sells !
news sells !
Who cares what a person gets up in their private lives,
evidently saddo does.
evidently saddo does.
His legacy is ok with me...drugs for personal recreation, all those celebs do them.
if they published his faults now they wouldnt get many takers for the free
8 page pullouts ......
8 page pullouts ......
PorcupineorPineapple 27 Dec 16 17:38
Are we sure the drugs led to his death? Is there basis for that or is it just tabloid speculation?
I think there just has to be fair balance. I think there's a bit of emphasis now on George's good points. Firstly, because he seems to be one of the rare breed who gave a lot away and helped a lot of people out but wasn't your typical charidee type, flaunting his kindness. And secondly because he had been horrendously treated by the tabloid press with every indiscretion or imperfection exaggerated to make it look like he was re-creating Sodom and Gomorrah. I think there's a lot of good old fashioned guilt coming out now.
At the end of the day, what did GM do to harm anyone? He got behind the wheel when he shouldn't have done, took some drugs but is that it? If you dug enough into anyone's life you'd find something to be offended at.
Spot on !
Are we sure the drugs led to his death? Is there basis for that or is it just tabloid speculation?
I think there just has to be fair balance. I think there's a bit of emphasis now on George's good points. Firstly, because he seems to be one of the rare breed who gave a lot away and helped a lot of people out but wasn't your typical charidee type, flaunting his kindness. And secondly because he had been horrendously treated by the tabloid press with every indiscretion or imperfection exaggerated to make it look like he was re-creating Sodom and Gomorrah. I think there's a lot of good old fashioned guilt coming out now.
At the end of the day, what did GM do to harm anyone? He got behind the wheel when he shouldn't have done, took some drugs but is that it? If you dug enough into anyone's life you'd find something to be offended at.
Spot on !
Ebul, he was convicted of driving while under the influence of drugs .
He crashed into a shop, other road users & pedestrians were in danger because of this criminal.
That crime is not acceptable nowadays.
He crashed into a shop, other road users & pedestrians were in danger because of this criminal.
That crime is not acceptable nowadays.
I really had no time for him - his so called music etc - but he was generous with his money to what could be described as ordinary everyday people
I would thank him for that at least.
for most, being gay is still not OK, which is sad
I would thank him for that at least.
for most, being gay is still not OK, which is sad
If he had killed someone when driving whilst drugged, would we view him more harshly?
I enjoyed some of his music and this was priceless https://youtu.be/hvuENG3O9TM
Cordon and GM on Sport Relief..
I'm just not sure I like this 'Diana affect' we see so often.
I enjoyed some of his music and this was priceless https://youtu.be/hvuENG3O9TM
Cordon and GM on Sport Relief..
I'm just not sure I like this 'Diana affect' we see so often.
People in the music industry taking drugs?! Whatever next! Suggest you get out a bit more, Injera!
love actually - don't buy drugs
become a pop star
they will give them to you
classic
become a pop star
they will give them to you
classic
Mexico • December 27, 2016 6:33 PM GMT
Ebul, he was convicted of driving while under the influence of drugs .
Well it was wrong, some of us do do wrong, but it hardly makes him the Yorkshire Ripper.
Not my type of chap, but his music made a lot of people happy, he has done ok with me.
Ebul, he was convicted of driving while under the influence of drugs .
Well it was wrong, some of us do do wrong, but it hardly makes him the Yorkshire Ripper.
Not my type of chap, but his music made a lot of people happy, he has done ok with me.
I feel sorry for The Glitter Band.
I listen to Pick of the Pops (2 top 20s from the past) most weeks on download, and they always gloss over the bad boys, and never play their records. Ok you can understand it with Glitter, Rolf, and Jonathan King, but with the Glitter Band it's purely guilt by association.
And ironically its hosted by Paul Gambacini who was arrested by police but released due to "lack of historical evidence"
I listen to Pick of the Pops (2 top 20s from the past) most weeks on download, and they always gloss over the bad boys, and never play their records. Ok you can understand it with Glitter, Rolf, and Jonathan King, but with the Glitter Band it's purely guilt by association.
And ironically its hosted by Paul Gambacini who was arrested by police but released due to "lack of historical evidence"
People who actually had to live under Fidel Castro might have had trouble mourning his death.
But generally, ever since Diana's demise it's as though Mark Antony's words have been turned upon their head. The good that men do now lives after them, while it's the evil which seems to be oft interréd with their bones
But generally, ever since Diana's demise it's as though Mark Antony's words have been turned upon their head. The good that men do now lives after them, while it's the evil which seems to be oft interréd with their bones
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