The crumbling Labour Party

aka / chaser

whats your thoughts on kezia - federal union

xmoneyx great choices we have

money i aint no tory

I am Labour but if I was Scottish I would have no problem backing the SNP if they were best at destroying the tories , that's the main thing keeping the tories out

I'm a ex libdem

UKIP all the way

Scotland need a leader i may stand if Tommy Sheridan doesn't beat me to it

owned by the money men?that seems a rather old fashioned view.there are plenty of people of normal upbringing in the upper echelons & rank & file of the tory party.the pm's the daughter of a vicar, grammar school educated & i would guess miiliband,comrade corbyn et al are at least on a par with her financially.

Barrow the tories are owned and funded by the square mile and the Establishment

Im not saying that some Labour mps aren't the same now

New Labour and Blair yes they were not Socialists or even Social Democrats

bbc is establishment

anxious
I am Labour but if I was Scottish I would have no problem backing the SNP if they were best at destroying the tories , that's the main thing keeping the tories out

Voting out of hatred not the wisest of positions to be in. The SNP would lead Scotland to bankruptcy if they won an indy vote.

hate to break the news --UK is bankrupt now


http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/

INDY can't happen unless Scotland built a wall then it can;t happen can it ?

like mexico

And make England pay for it

xmoneyx
aka / chaser
whats your thoughts on kezia - federal union

Was impressed with Kezia when she first made an appearance as the Labour leader in Scotland but have went off her.
Doesn't know what stance to take and even supports indy at times. Her backtracking on Corbyn didn't help her cause either.
Another hopeful career politician with little substance.
As regards the federal union would need to see much more of the detail to form an opinion.

calling the wall

The Barnett Formula

They all in it for the monies they don't care about anyone

As long as they can get pizza and monies they all good

The national debt manageable xmoneyx and way short of panic stations.
I think it's Chinas whos figure is over 130% of GDP.

Politics at the moment is in a state of confusion with anti- global elites all in vogue , but its true surely that theres always been 1 percent who have controlled most things

Ironically I think the advent of the Internet has helped many cranks get their message out louder

130% looks dangerous

Tommy don't need a job Chaser. He charges his comrades £1k a pop for speaking at functions.
What a socialist he is surviving on the giros of the unemployed most of his life.

China have cities built and eventually people will move in

They have mini paris and mini manhattan you know EMPTY

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1025760/Video-artist-reveals-won...

Not a problem xmoneyx whilst interest rates are so low.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3XfpYxHKCo

Surely people will move in eventually

akabula 11 Dec 16 22:02 Joined: 13 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 23,284 | Blogger: akabula's blog
Tommy don't need a job Chaser. He charges his comrades £1k a pop for speaking at functions.
What a socialist he is surviving on the giros of the unemployed most of his life.

Not a problem xmoneyx whilst interest rates are so low

saw tommy speak loanhead miners welfare during Scottish referendum

never realised he got 1k

Well it isn't.
If GDP 100whatevers then interest payments will be 3% of that amount at current rates.

No one in Loanhead was paying 1k

In the UK we will be paying about 2% of our GDP.

They closed the juice factory doon NAE MORE IRN BRU FOR LOANHEAD

thats why he was late

Must have been passing the bucket all over Midlothian to fetch 1k

Depends who asks him to speak Chaser.
Wouldn't be the locals but the strategy team running the indyref in that instance.

An ex work colleague saw him in Dundee.
Said peep were asking him for his autograph.
Sad b4st4rds.

I seen pictures of local people with selfies with him wonder if he charged them 

This I love. Solidarity (ie Tommy and Gail) explaining the second vote at the Holyrood elections.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm9O1gOuYRM

Mind the video with him and his wife telling us how to tick boxes

you got it posted

The Scottish Resistances Christmas vid from last year.
Need to edit out wee Sean this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq59hKIuksM

Joseph Bloggs7 months ago
I went into the polling booth with my lilac and peach voting papers. I looked for Solidarity on the lilac one, but it wasn't there! I then looked on the peach paper, and lo, there it was - Solidarity. So, I quickly put a cross in the Tory box and cast my ballots. Long live the Union!

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The Scottish Resistances Christmas vid from last year.
Need to edit out wee Sean this year. Laugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq59hKIuksM


Can you vote these mugs in anywhere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5C4QWcLwNw

The Great Scottish Tea Party Rally

GET A JOB

WE HAVE ALL GOT JOBS WE ALL SELF EMPLOYED

THAT IS A THING OF BEAUTY

ALL OVER A FKCING TEA CAKE

I THOUGHT THEY WANTED FREEDOM

The real funny thing was that Tunnocks never changed ther logo.
It was just an advertising ploy to take advantage of the popularity of The Great British Bake Off.

tons of sobs    11 Dec 16 19:37 
Voted Labour for 40 years.....i will vote Labour no more.


And by so doing, you allow the Tories to fck you up and pave the way for rampant capitalism and the continued destruction of the fabric of our society. Where one rule for the rich and another for the poor.

This is another gem from James of the Scottish resistance.
Wee word of warning turn the sound down on yer pc before watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKX6t4ZjpCA

Most people know it is a decade of rampant immigration that has destroyed the fabric of this society, facts.

I remember you saying something about that before aka so they do no research but go and stand outside the factory demanding change

Aye and getting ridiculed by all the auld biddies.
Although tbf James studied William Wallace/Robin Hood for 30 years.

Fabric of our society

Labour were trying to remove the british culture.

He runs a finance company

Facts do you ever go to the food banks to help out ?

How many refugees you got living with you apart your partner ?

yes mcdonalds,burger king

costco you get a case

As the original poster on this thread I would point out that mine wasn't a political statement as such.
The Tories are certainties to win the next election as their own following will back them which is fair enough.
It's unfortunate that there isn't any remotely healthy opposition as the Labour Party as it stands have disenfranchised themselves from their own true members who have been replaced by the Corbenista who are anti-Semitic champagne socialists who do not and will never represent the working class.
Their figureheads are an embarrassment to the party and it's utterly impossible to take any party seriously with Dianne Abbott in such a lofty position based on her links with a hapless mess of a leader.
The Labour hierarchy would rather live in a deluded bubble where they surround themselves with a few likeminded self riteous suits who seem oblivious to the fact they are wholly u popular with their very own core vote.
None of this is healthy unless you are a Tory inwhich you'll say nothing and just win the next election by default.

SNP LABOUR COALITION

Only way to get Tories out

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/11/theresa-may-refuses-shut-shops-bo...

saddo

"Concerns about immigration"? Where does that come from?

The media keep saying:

"People are expressing concerns about immigration
People are expressing concerns about immigration
People are expressing concerns about immigration"

If you are registered as non-dom you can run a business
in the UK but pay no tax. This costs us billions.

"People are expressing concerns about immigration."

If the government cuts public services, they increase
pressure on public services.

"People are expressing concerns about immigration."

Since 1980, wealth has shifted from labour to capital.
In other words those that 'have', have more; those that
have the least, have less. Those that have the least
have given wealth to those that have more.

"People are expressing concerns about immigration"

The government regularly announces that it freezes
the wages of public service workers. This means that
people can afford less. Their living standards decline.

"People are expressing concerns about immigration"

The government has repeatedly brought in policies
which have helped to increase the price of houses.
The proportion of people's income required to rent or buy
has steadily risen. Flats and houses cost more to live in.
There is less space per pound of people's income.

"People are expressing concerns about immigration"

Some people do not know that the main reasons for their
standard of living to go down are nothing to do with immigration.
Instead, they keep hearing:

"People are expressing concerns about immigration."

You know what happens next?

some people express some concern about immigration.
After all, people can only think what they think
based on available information.
The media supply the available information.
They keep saying:

'People are expressing concerns about immigration."

The government laughs quietly to itself:
"People do not blame us for their living standards going down,
they blame immigration."

tons of sobs    11 Dec 16 19:37 
Voted Labour for 40 years.....i will vote Labour no more.


And by so doing, i allowed the Labour Party to fck me up and pave the way for rampant capitalism and the continued destruction of the fabric of our society. Where one rule for the rich and another for the poor.


''I’m afraid there is no money''.

The plight of the UK’s working poor has been revealed in a report which shows that one in every eight workers is living in poverty.

A study by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation said that a record high of 55% of people in poverty are in working households, showing a “growing insecurity underneath positive economic headlines”.

The report found that that 21% of the population are living in poverty - doubling the UK’s poor in a decade.

If a country like the UK that's going into debt to survive keeps importing poor people, then that country is going to end up with more people living in poverty.

And services that were designed to accommodate these people who don't pay their own way, like the NHS, welfare and education will be inadequate to cope with the extra numbers.

So it's no surprise that this kind of immigration leads to lower standards of living for the poor, because there is simply less to go around.

Its not just immigration its the free market fanatics that are mainly responsible for rip off Britannia

Its never their fault as the song goes

I believe it's Labour's refusal to see immigration from the eyes of the electorate that has cost them so many votes.

Then along came Brexit to strengthen the perception of Labour wanting one thing and their traditional supporters wanting another. 

I see no hope for the Labour party. Certainly not until their stance on immigration has been resolved to the satisfaction of ordinary people.
And that isn't going to happen with the likes of Khan and Abbott with their feet firmly under the table.

I'm afraid the Labour party as the majority once knew it has gone.
The supporters they have left just don't realise it yet.

I think they do Dr, classic denial symptoms is all we see. The immigrationists have such a fixed ideology that they are boxed in and have nothing to discuss, it is death or glory for that lot.

Crippen the crisis in Social care is the tories deliberate fault 26 per cent less getting proper care now since 2010,even the private cowboy firms have had enough taking their money and running off

As your hero once said - there is no such thing as society

anxious I don't think that cuts much ice with disillusioned Labour voters.

They had nearly two decade of listening to immigration supporting stuff from Labour.
And now the excuse that it's Tory policies that have caused all the trouble.

That's why they left.

so most or all of our problems are down to immigration?


i dont think so.

there wasnt a problem pre crisis..in fact our economy boomed off the back of immigration.
id say it was propped up after the crisis too..especially if you compare how others suffered.

a growing population contributes to growth...so id say if we didnt have them we would have been a lot worse off.

the problem lies with tory policies.
ie..cuts when they should have been building.
they could have controlled house prices which would have greatly helped the econony...but chose not to.
they could have used stamp duty on higher priced houses to raise money to build.

they have caused this problem not immigration.

Blair could have ensured that the immigration began with a trickle and provided houses, schools, hospitals etc were built as numbers increased. He did not and we got most of the migrants from 6 countries because they could go nowhere else en masse. A huge mistake and no attempt to correct it was ever made. The Tories simply inherited his mess.

I'd say Labour should make way for a party that supports the workers.

Instead of like them supporting immigration.

labour will benefit once brexit is sorted

it will be the other parties that suffer post brexit as the solution will not suit all.



long term its not a bad position, but a short term disaster

there are plenty of labour mps prepared for long term struggle,


tories fighting over short term gain.....look what has already happened to

cameron, osborne, bojo, and gove.....plenty more to follow

even corbyns xmas card is naff

Is it a scene from Calais?

corbyns xmas card is good, why do you think it is naff ?

most seem to have gone for kiddy design , bar corbyn and wee  krankie

He cares more about that thieving mob than poor British folk.

johnathon living pigeon

its a dove of peace spelling out 2017

on a red background,.....very labour

its more mandelson than corbyn imo , but hey ho

With the eyes of the world on Seoul for what was essentially South Korea’s coming-out party, the opening ceremony got off to an unfortunate start. Releasing a flock of doves into the stadium might have seemed like a good idea on paper, but the reality was actually pretty gruesome: as the cauldron was lit, a host of birds were burned to a crisp in front of the entire planet.

Nicola SturDUMBS xmas card is better

Christmas will be unbearable if they don't stop immigration.

Labour MP Gisela Stuart steps up to blast Diane Abbott over freedom of movement. Doing a great job Di.

isela Stuart, the Labour MP who co-chaired the campaign to leave the EU, has been accused of hypocrisy after she called on politicians “to be humane” and guarantee the rights of 3.5 million European citizens living in the UK.

The politician, who is now chairing an inquiry into the practicalities of protecting the rights of foreign workers, said it was critical that Britain was a “welcoming country” in the wake of the Brexit vote.

But her comments led to an angry response from the Liberal Democrat leader, Tim Farron, who said her campaign had focused on reducing migrant numbers.

Good woman. Fighting from within.

Gisela Gschaider Stuart (born 26 November 1955) is a British Labour Party politician, who has been the Member of Parliament (MP) for Birmingham Edgbaston since 1997. Born and raised in West Germany, she migrated to Britain in 1974.

Proving even immigrants want immigration control.

proving nowt !


some folk just cant help themselves, no wonder party is crumbling

Tim Farron regurgitating the same tripe over and over.

Keep thinking that way donny. Talk about burying your head in the sand. People who want unlimited immigration are becoming the minority.

Scotland is a bit behind still

But keep Nick in the joab and it will soon change

Have always been the minority, they just shout loudest.