Discussing ticket touting on LBC

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Tickets for Adele - about 360,000 - sold out in 10 minutes.

It's been announced that you will only be admitted if you are the person named on the ticket.

It's about time more artists took this approach - the real fans are either paying through the nose or are not getting to the event at all; and from a cold commercial point of view, if someone pays £200 (or more) for a £50 ticket, that's £150 that's gone into a spiv's pocket that could have been spent on merchendise or refreshments at the venue.

The touts are using BOTS to hoover up thousands of tickets sometimes even before the official on-sale time. The USA are about to outlaw this practice whereby the normal computer selling channels are bypassed.

Hopefully, we'll follow suit. Imo, there's nothing wrong with reselling tickets at a premium as long as the the touts compete on a level playing field instead of cornering the market and artificially inflating prices.

GetMeIN , Viagogo all part of the hoovering or they just get them before release

Everything sells out in minutes now when in reality they are just getting passed on to partner companies and selling for more

There is another side to it, buy some tickets for friends for Theatre, Races, any event really and friends named on tickets can't make it for any reason and you cannot take anyone else, stuck with worthless tickets that have Benin paid for.

Yeah the name thing doesn't work really

But closing down the ticket tout sites would be a start

The touts and third party sites are happy to play the bad guy,
on behalf of themselves, the artist, management, promoters and venue
.......and the dividends are shared out between them all.

There are few innocent parties in the whole arrangement.

Poppy i agree 100% the third party sites work with some of the Bands etc for sure

Face value £50 then bang 1 hour later it's £100 on a third site

Tickets not even in hand as tickets don't get sent out until like a week before gigs

Prince tried to take them on and look what happened so maybe it's just not worth taking them on

And while they're at it, can they look at the rip off add ons.
Recently bought tickets for a gig and was charged £3 booking fee, £2 facilitation fee (WTF is that), and £2.50
delivery, even though I printed the tickets off myself.

Someone rang in and booking fees can be up to £50 when buying through the normal channels.

Never realised that - I always thought they were around £3 - £5 .

Thats £3-5 per ticket! If you buy 10 tickets you pay 10 booking fees

At least the touts' profits used to find their way to a worthwhile place in the old days, i.e. the betting Ring. Plumpton and Fontwell would have been a bit dull 20 years ago  without Johnny Lights.

Nothing wrong with a secondary market for tickets - or anything else really.

But, what used to be a cottage industry has now been industrialised...instututionalised.

If the music industry wanted to do something about it, they would do.  They don't.  It is crocodile tears.

Has anyone ever had their ticket checked in this detail at a venue i.e. name on ticket compared with ID?

As I hadn't been successful in getting any Olympics ticket, I  bought a package for the Olympics in London from Thomas Cook.  A right rip off.  e.g. £100 hotel room and £80 in tickets about £500.

Very similar to these touting companies discussed above.

Olympics guarantee thousands of tickets to 'travel' companies in exchange for a big wodge.  They both benefit and Joe Public ends up getting ripped off.

My experiences of Glastonbury means it's pretty hard to get in with a repurchased ticket

This doesn't need government intervention.
If a band want to avoid touts they just need to follow Adele's policy here
If they don't mind touts acting as intermediaries then they should be allowed to. They're putting on the show, and they can decide if special fans need a little help through fan clubs, or not if they don't care. The free market has this covered.

Kate Bush did the same thing in only allowing in people named on the ticket with her 2014 Hammersmith residency.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/adele-wembley-2017-tour-dates-9424000

Yes the name thing definitely does work as per Glastonbury, Kate Bush, etc. Arcade Fire have done it too as have Radiohead. This really should become common practice for any big gig/event. It would reduce touting considerably.

And what if the name on the ticket can;t make it last minute and hands it to a mate ?

Adele trying to stop touts making money as she is ripping her fans of enough

Many resale tickets are now being sold for hundreds, and even thousands of pounds more than the original £45 to £95 (plus booking fee)



4 sell outs of Wembley and still no tickets at the very top for £10-£20

She must be on the verge of being the ambassador for Twickets

Good publicity also for her as no fecking way she sold out all them tickets already she needs Publicity just like Twickets

http://www.viagogo.co.uk/search?q=adele

people still selling them on here here so will they all be refused entry NOPE

Surely you could have a return policy if required and sell any returns at the box office on a first come, first served basis on the day of the event.

Adele has appointed Twickets as her official resale partner, making its service the only place where fans can resell tickets to the gigs without the threat of cancellation. What’s more, the company’s rules mean those tickets can only be offered for their face-value price at most.



And there it is THREAT  not will be cancelled just a THREAT

No ticket will be cancelled at the entrance gates FACT

pixie
pixie 12 Dec 16 13:32 Joined: 24 May 02 | Topic/replies: 5,157 | Blogger: pixie's blog
Surely you could have a return policy if required and sell any returns at the box office on a first come, first served basis on the day of the event.

You think Bands will allow this


Say it's p1ssing down they may get a few thousand returned on the day of the event and lose some cash

The Chaser, if the named person on the ticket can't make it on the day it's tough. You should know you can make it when booking tickets. Or alternatively as Pixie says maybe a returns policy where you only get the money refunded if the tickets are re sold.

So if you break your leg the day before a gig it's tough and no one should be allowed to go instead ?

You actually think people won't get in if they turn up with wrong name

No everyone has Photo ID as people keep saying on this very  forum

What ID is required to get in along with those tickets ? Does a bank card work ? What a about a birth certificate ?

TheChaser 12 Dec 16 13:57 Joined: 23 May 12 | Topic/replies: 36,474 | Blogger: TheChaser's blog
So if you break your leg the day before a gig it's tough and no one should be allowed to go instead ?

You get your money back with a returns policy, if you are convinced you can pass on your ticket to a mate at cost price you would think it would be a doddle for the box office to move it on at cost price wouldn't you?

I can't imagine any band who are in a position to make touts a profit because demand outstrips supply would have any objection. It seems such an obvious, simple solution.

I think you're creating problems when there aren't any, The Chaser.

Who said i would sell it to a mate on short notice i would let them have it i aint a tight whad

Bin or let someone else go no other option but to let it go

Pixie ticketmaster pass the tickets to the touts so i am not creating the problem

The ticket official sellers are

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2221371/Fury-Ticketmaster-directs-Rolling-Stones-fans-touts-website-charging-15-000-ticket.html




GETMEIN is part of Ticketmaster

Ticketmaster say we sold out in 10 minutes but they have them up withing an a few minutes on getmein

Adele ones maybe not as she has spoken out

Ticketmaster want these 3rd party sites or they wouldn't have one themselves


So to beat Ticket Touts you have to ban the 3rd party sites


Ticketmaster accused of profiteering over Phil Collins' gig after redirecting fans to re-selling website it owns where it can pocket an extra £600
Seats for Phil Collins' tour sold out on Ticketmaster in seconds last month
Ticketmaster's website redirects fans to a re-selling website it owns
There the seats - originally priced at £55 to £175 - sell for up to £2,200
The firm then takes huge cuts on the mark-ups for the concert tickets


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3911566/Ticketmaster-accused-profite...
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It's all a marketing con. Why not just go back to the days of buying the ticket from the venue and cutting out the middle man?


Ps, who wants to see Adele or Phil Collins anyway? Especially that money grabbing, royalist snivelling twot Collins? Thought he was moving to Switzerland anyway. Tax reasons obviously

Tickets for The Rolling Stones in Las Vegas on October 19th, 20,000 tickets sold out by the second day, but lot of tickets available on the resale market on 3rd party site. Originally priced up to about £750 and being offered for about £4,000. This was on a Wednesday night....and then another show was added on the Saturday night because so much demand for tickets.

The Wednesday night show at the new T-mobile arena was cancelled the day before because 'Mick Jagger had laryngitis'. Although he seemed to make a quick recovery because the Saturday night show went ahead. But rumours in Las Vegas, the arena and Rolling Stones management caved in to pressure to cancel the Wednesday show. Because the final TV debate between Trump & Clinton was being held nearby and big security worries.

they say they sell out in 2 minutes

people buy it

go to the gig and you will see many people outsite selling tickets

Saw Squeeze in Warrington last month, bought tickets at face value from the ticket office.

Ps, they touring again next October