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One in every eight workers in the UK - 3.8 million people - is now living in poverty. A total of 7.4 million people, including 2.6 million children, are in poverty despite being in a working family. This means that a record high of 55 per cent of people in poverty are in working households.
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Keep moving the bar as to how you define poverty and you can get whatever figures you want.
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I don't trust any stats without first having an understanding of who they are from and what their motivation is.
JRF’s definition of poverty is: ‘When a person’s resources (mainly their material resources) are not sufficient to meet their minimum needs (including social participation).’ |
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I think Mike Ashley sums it up by buying a jet for £40 million to "facilitate efficiencies"
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It is shocking.
One of the causes is immigration. The downward pressure on wages is caused by immigration. The sponsoring of Muslim enclaves is costly and wrong. The permitting of the Roma in creating their own homeland in Britain another huge drain on your exchequer. The encouraging of health tourism another huge cost. Stop letting wealthy people feel good about themselves and start looking after your own needy. |
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Nothing to do with Austerity then...
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We've only got austerity because of the things that WMFB has pointed out,the immigrants are bleeding us to death.
What a disgusting outfit that Roma lot are. What benefit are they to this country? |
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Jesus, you sheeple
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PorcupineorPineapple 08 Dec 16 11:49
Jesus, you sheeple Why is your knee-jerk reaction to call people names instead of actually discussing the points made? Go ahead and rip those "sheeple's" arguments to shreds instead of coming out with the standard name calling. |
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Because, the sheeple won't change their minds. Everything is the fault of migrants. The end.
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why bother ripping their arguments when they will just
post more bigoted carp on another thread? |
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Ready and waiting...
Mr Bigot... |
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The first post about immigration says it's one of the causes. No one is saying it's the only cause.
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Not much point in explaining to lefty white haters, Shrewdy..
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ripping their arguments
Haha, now that's funny. In another life lefty.. |
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It is shocking.
One of the causes is immigration. The downward pressure on wages is caused by immigration. The sponsoring of Muslim enclaves is costly and wrong. The permitting of the Roma in creating their own homeland in Britain another huge drain on your exchequer. indeed it is, then defaults to bigoted diatribe |
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Where is the bigotry ?
Which of the statements do you find bigoted ? |
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Six myths about Immigration debunked;
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-migration-six-myths-about-immigration-debunked-as-latest-figures-show-fall-in-non-eu-arrivals-a6895341.html |
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The definition of poverty used is those living off 60% of median household income. Median income being about £25k per household.
What I'm unclear about is whether those in this bracket then receive state help. I'm sure they do, so how can they still be in poverty? |
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When you understand the definition of poverty this sort of thing doesnt actually mean much.
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Its because the defintion of poverty doesnt equate to being in poverty.
If the rich get richer then more people fall into "poverty" without their situation changing. Its a joke definition which is totally meaningless. |
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Because, the sheeple won't change their minds. Everything is the fault of migrants. The end.
And you're not just as bad by saying it isn't the fault of migrants. |
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You do know there's a difference between saying not everything's the fault of migrants and nothing's the fault of migrants, no?
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well, they ain't bleeding 'elping
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There is a big difference between blaming immigration and blaming immigrants. Read what people say pineapple not what you want to read.
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all this poverty and some won't even give shelter to a couple of poor immigrants
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i can't stand Mike Ashley - but his 40m jet and whatever else he earns hasn't come at the expense of the poor in the UK - the UK poor benefit from this man (the difference is money other rich individuals would have raked ) - those other rich lose out /and... workers in the far east are working even harder to survive.
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I was originally replying to khyber and next to bigmo shrewdie. They both mentioned migrants, not immigration. Mobo also referenced them, not it. Maybe you should read what people say eh?
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As usual IAN runs off.
But as we now have another 2 lefty white-haters.. 1/IAN1 - Facts 2/IAN2 - Porky 3/IAN3 - Donald All now fully qualified IANS in their own left (hehe) |
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guinness - white hater? Please do elucidate.
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It's a generalisation; just like bigot..
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No, if I were to call you a bigot I'd be calling you a bigot. You called me a white hater. Based on what exactly?
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No?
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Pineapple you were the first one to mention immigrants on the thread and changed the conversation.
PorcupineorPineapple Because, the sheeple won't change their minds. Everything is the fault of migrants. The end. |
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shrewdie - I invite you to read the 11.32 post and then note when I came in. I admit I removed the "im". (Slaps own wrist)
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khyber kim 08 Dec 16 11:32
We've only got austerity because of the things that WMFB has pointed out,the immigrants are bleeding us to death. We've only got austerity because the Tories imposed it on us. It was not a necessity, it was purely a political decision. Working class The best off 10% take 28% of all income - and half of that is taken by the best off 1%." The Conservatives legacy is 4 million children in the UK living in poverty whilst our national debt profile gets progressively worse. The media have colluded with the Government to portray a false narrative, where they would have the People blame immigrants instead of the government for the problems caused by intentionally underfunding and running down services pending privatisation. All this happened whilst the Tories were splitting us into 'strivers' and 'scroungers' - and the Tories in government kept their wealth offshore to avoid tax. Austerity is the biggest con trick inflicted by the most divisive government since Thatcher. Sent from my iPad |
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Facts 08 Dec 16 14:08
Blah de blah de Tories blah de rich people robbing poor people blah de blah de blah Sent from my iPad Just thought this was quite funny for some reason.  |
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it's short for immigrants pad
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You certainly won't find any Pretendy Refugees in IAN1's house, and judging by the cringeworthy iPad namecheck he knows precious little about poverty as well.
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I caught a bit of newsnight last night where their was a scottish van driver earning £250 per week so he would to be struggling on such a poor wage, but isnt that below the minimum wage or did i hear it wrong ?
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