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The various countries that make up the EU have more to lose than the UK.
Can you explain why you think this is the case? I hear it a lot...seems counter intuitive to me. |
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It's simple Ozy, we import more from the EU than we export to them.
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Yes, but UK imports are spread (unevenly) between 27 countries...therefore the EU loss is diluted per country .
If the Uk and EU stop trading (hypothetical situation for the purposes of illustration) the damage to say France is sustainable (loses one trading partner)), wheras the UK is wiped out (having lost 27 trading partners). That is why the UK has more to lose and the EU is in the stronger negotiating position. |
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Do you think the leaders of the individual countries will think like that?
I don't. But even if they did they'd hardly wipe out the UK which can now trade with the world. UK companies would also have to look to within for trade which might hamper choice but again it wouldn't ruin the UK. |
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take the krauts for starters. BMW exports more cars to us than any other country, around 800k last year. Without UK sales their manufacturing base will collapse costing 1 million jobs. Matthias Wissmann who is their chief at the automotive sector, has begged Merkel not to apply tariffs to UK imports, can you hazard a guess why?
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This nonsense of a collective base against us will soon be shown as false when individual countries see what they have to lose.
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bmw will sell us cars in or out of eu
they are lucky as their target buyer has lots of money and isnt on minimum wage if the have to add10% they may expect the uk dealers to take a hit, or pefhaps a few extras will be left off, ....toblerone effect its the more generic exporters that will be bothered |
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If sales won't suffer with a 10% hike in prices, why haven't BMW already done it irrespective of Brexit?
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Do you think the leaders of the individual countries will think like that?
Yes, of course they will. Which is why the sentiment that they need us more than we need them is evidently a nonsense. |
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british exports are currently cheaper in europe due to decline in value of pound in europe
since june 23 todays central bank decision has cut a little more of that advantage away it has already made bmws 10-15 % more expensive to import, but i dont hear germans cutting production , yet .... |
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How can it be nonsense when imports are greater than exports?
Common sense tells you who has more to lose in that equasion. |
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...more likely BMW haven't put their sterling prices up on the UK forecourt yet 'cos they know what'll happen if they do.
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I have explained it to you above.
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Tariffs are good for a country and will be good for Britain. The only countries that benefit from no tariff free trade are countries like China and the poorer EU countries.
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if uncle arthur wants a ne bmw every 2 years
he will buy one, he probably wont shop around and his dealer will spoil him on his biannual visit and he will be happy knowing hes paid what he has paid if you are selling unbranded gear its a different kettle of fish british exporters selling quality gear will continue whereas those who rely on being a few pence cheaper per item are stuffed |
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those who rely on being a few pence cheaper per item are stuffed
Can you give us a couple of examples Donny? |
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I hope Aka is not a businessman.
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Tariffs cause difficulties if they are right across the board of a nations economy. They can be used selectively by an independent country. Without tariffs a country can find it is difficult for new companies to get established. Tariffs if used correctly can help these fledgling businesses become established.
This was very important when Britain and other countries first became industrialised. Tariffs can lead to an explosion of new buisnesses and jobs because it gives infant companies a chance to gain a foothold. |
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Come on then Scandi avail us all of your insight into this other than just posting wee snide remarks.
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As somebody else pointed out if that'd the case why haven't BMW increased prices.
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BMW have an engine plant in the UK. Reciprocal tariffs would not be good.
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The EU has its faults, of course it does, but I believe we're better in it and influencing it than being on the outside. And the very act of leaving will almost certainly mean we get a trade deal that reflects that fact
The laughable attempt by Cameron prostituting himself around 27 countries to gain something to sell to the electorate earlier this year should tell you that is a notion that has no foundation. Spite and malice maybe threatening from Brussels petulance but weakness (mostly from Remainer whingers) will only encourage them,a robust response to call their bluff will get national governments to impose their wills on Brussels and force the to shut up.A tit for tat tarrif response will stop Brussels in it's tracks,they really do have more to lose although the childish behaviour from Brussels may suggest otherwise. |
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after the sabre rattling a deal will be done
we will be worse off because we leave but we do not have to remain worse off its up to government and industry to make it work for us they cant sit around crying may has already talked of dropping corporation tax , to encourage business to stay in uk or move here today we get bad news of banks talking of leaving and good news that mcdonalds are moving their non usa operations here hey ho, plenty more swings and roundabouts over next ten years |
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The Black widow spider
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Paul Parker's Ma
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She wern't even BORN in the the country
She shouldn't even BE in the country f**king thing ![]() |
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Come into OUR Country
& start telling US how our Law works who the *** does she think she is - this is big sh1t Black widow your messing with gangster types ![]() |
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why has it become racist to compare someone to a black widow spider?
FFS? The Upper hand, have you heard that mentioned before? i have but i can't think where, anyway , anyone calls me a snowman i'm reporting you (facts) |