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xmoneyx
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Report saddo November 23, 2016 11:35 PM GMT
What does that mean,  is it just more of yer hysteria?
Report Breedingmad November 23, 2016 11:38 PM GMT
Someone has to pay for Brexit it won't be Farage, Johnson, Davies or Gove so it has to be the mugs..
Report akabula November 23, 2016 11:53 PM GMT
What do you mean by the new poll tax xmoneyx?
Do you mean the lefties won't pay it? Wink
Report xmoneyx November 24, 2016 12:09 AM GMT
poor working class
Report akabula November 24, 2016 12:18 AM GMT
The 'poor working class' have seen a £5k rise in the personal allowance in the past few years thanks to the Tories.
Report Breedingmad November 24, 2016 12:24 AM GMT
This left and right shyt is bull you are taking sides based on a social Democratic country
the conservatives have stolen the lefts policies and made them redundant but they have
decided to exclude the poor from their plans and concentrated all their efforts to give
their rich buddies a free ride.If you can't see what has happened I suggest you listen to
Peter Hitchens who is one of he few who knows what is really happeningWink
Report akabula November 24, 2016 12:29 AM GMT
Not sure how you can equate this to the poll tax.
How much do you think a policy will cost in cash terms.
Take a policy costing £400, how much will this now cost.
Report saddo November 24, 2016 12:45 AM GMT
I think exy is a bit confused or just being alarmist. I looked and insurance premium tax has gone from 10% to 12%, so a 2% rise seems to be nearer the truth.
Report akabula November 24, 2016 12:52 AM GMT
It's an extra £2 per £100 saddo and at most will cost the 'poor working class' about an extra 5p per week.
Report saddo November 24, 2016 12:59 AM GMT
I just said that.
Report akabula November 24, 2016 1:04 AM GMT
Sorry put your name instead of xmoneyx's.

I'm assuming that the 'poor working class' that he refers to aren't house or car owners btw.
Report saddo November 24, 2016 1:07 AM GMT
Just more project fear, it will not end.
Report Facts November 24, 2016 5:06 AM GMT
10% to 12% is not a 2% increase. It's an increase of 2 percentage points .
A 2% increase on 10% = 10.2%
Report Facts November 24, 2016 5:11 AM GMT
Sorry Saddo, read what you put incorrectly .Ignore my above post !
Report Facts November 24, 2016 5:24 AM GMT
akabula    24 Nov 16 00:18 
The 'poor working class' have seen a £5k rise in the personal allowance in the past few years thanks to the Tories.


So that's an extra £1000 in their pockets over 5 years. £200 a year,I.e less than £4 a week.
And that's wiped out times - how many ? , by increases elsewhere right across the board, with frozen wage increases eroding the true value of  net income.

Just another con trick by the Tories. The poorest in this country are less well off now than they were at the start of this Tory
government coming to power. Whilst the richest in the land have become even more wealthier.
Report Coachbuster November 24, 2016 9:24 AM GMT
not sure how you stop the richest  folk getting richer  Cry (likewise the most intelligent will become even brighter even though mean/average intelligence peaked decades ago) - thats just simple evolution at work .

In another 2,000 years i reckon the planets wealth will be owned by 0.1 of the population .
Report saddo November 24, 2016 12:04 PM GMT
Has the op not been on to clarify yet?
Report Jack Hacksaw November 24, 2016 12:12 PM GMT
Nothing wrong with a move to reduce direct taxation, as such.

About time there was a wholesale shake up and simplification of indirect taxes.  There are so many and many of them are arbitrary, and based on increasing revenue and opportunism rather than fairness,
or the concept of a bigger picture.

I am sure many people have forgotten or are too young to remember the original purpose of VAT.
Report ZenMaster November 24, 2016 12:19 PM GMT
Is this thread for Primary School mathematics?Laugh
Report Jack Hacksaw November 24, 2016 12:21 PM GMT
I am guessing a few struggled with the eleven plus.
Report ZenMaster November 24, 2016 12:24 PM GMT
I think Facts sees it as the 0.11 plus
Report TheChaser November 24, 2016 12:27 PM GMT
9x9=81
7x7=49
2+2-1x2-1x4x5x5x5=
Report ZenMaster November 24, 2016 12:28 PM GMT
You tend to find that these lefties are poor at maths.

Which is why they fail to understand the negatives of free-movement of people.
Report G1_Jockey_4 November 24, 2016 12:41 PM GMT
yeah im sure your right.

less people means more sold in shops....
Report xmoneyx November 24, 2016 12:44 PM GMT
trickle down economics works

its a trickle
Report mememe November 24, 2016 12:52 PM GMT
lefties usually have a degree in, err, err, something soft ... e.g. sociology, reading books, watching tv (media studies) basket weaving.

And claim they are intellectuals.

Intellectuals my ar$e.  Generally very opinionated and thick, from what I see.

Love to know stats on left v. moderate/centre right supporters and IQ.

I think the correlation would exceed 1 (I know, not possible, but highly probable IMO in this case)
Report saddo November 24, 2016 12:54 PM GMT
Most poor people spend more than they earn. The difference is supplied by HMG, how can this be of benefit to a country?
Report TheChaser November 24, 2016 1:01 PM GMT

mememe 24 Nov 16 12:52 Joined: 21 Jan 11 | Topic/replies: 2,133 | Blogger: mememe's blog
lefties usually have a degree in, err, err, something soft ... e.g. sociology, reading books, watching tv (media studies) basket weaving.

And claim they are intellectuals.

Intellectuals my ar$e.  Generally very opinionated and thick, from what I see.

Love to know stats on left v. moderate/centre right supporters and IQ.

I think the correlation would exceed 1 (I know, not possible, but highly probable IMO in this case)



Everyone on here is thick

What are you using to type a phone/laptop/tablet or whatever ? Did you invent the fkcer NO ? Smart people invent stuff you use the smart peoples stuff like SMARTPHONES.

Left / Right all the same

IQ who gives a t0ss
Report dustybin November 24, 2016 1:13 PM GMT
Thrift used to be as much the preserve of the impecunious as the people who stole a living, its the saturation of credit that changed mentality and was created by capital holders making margins 'doing' nothing.

There used to be plenty of proletariat who didnt take loans or desire superfluous tat churned out by opportunists.
Report mememe November 24, 2016 1:14 PM GMT
thechaser ...

wow ... what a coherent post.

2:2 in media studies then, I would guess.

Which supermarket do you work in now?
Report TheChaser November 24, 2016 1:16 PM GMT
Good reply mememe i better go scan some beans

Or make money on the internet you know the thing that someone smart invented
Report TheChaser November 24, 2016 1:20 PM GMT
I have never worked in supermarkets but i have worked in worse places like factories.I can also say people in they work places be be skint and live week to week but you get good people who would give you the last pound in their pocket if you needed it more.
Report TheChaser November 24, 2016 1:21 PM GMT
may be skint *
Report akabula November 24, 2016 1:59 PM GMT
@Facts.
I don't think Maths in yer strong point.
This year an extra £1000 pounds in my pocket.
Last year and extra £800 in my pocket
etc etc since the increase started so average be much more the £200 you state.
Report ZenMaster November 24, 2016 2:49 PM GMT
less people means more sold in shops.... *(sarcasm)

G1Jockey

Less *net takers* ( those on top ups and other in and out of work benefits ) means less hand outs by the treasury.

When that money goes to shops only a % goes to the treasury. You are talking consumption.
When that money goes to claimants 100% comes from the treasury.
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