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Chit Chat
Thomas Mair
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chit chatters ?
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ebulGery Joined: 08 May 10 Replies: 22064 25 Nov 16 21:14 I agree Ron...it is always the so called anti fascists who start the violence I do not think Thomas Mair is entirely sane myself. But [i]in the world of todays terrorism, he was always going to go down.[/i] Yeah Mair another victim of modern times. |
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flushgordon1 Joined: 25 Jun 11 Replies: 8452 26 Nov 16 12:07 Mi5/6 have currently nearly 3000 people who are being monitored of these 3000 there are a few right wing nutters Most of those are here |
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One for you here flush
it appears a lot of youngsters are being reported by schools re radicalisation. guess!!! people with right wing leanings/ideas - I wonder why? Wouldn't have anything to with the 'right on' teaching brigade would it? |
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Far Left or the "Control Left" as i heard them called earlier are the dangerous ones.
They say they have Liberal views, but there's absolutely nothing Liberal about this horrid breed |
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Ron I have always been on the far left and I am appalled at the actions, attitudes and policies of these people.
They seem to have abandoned clause 4 just like blair and his cronies. Or at least they seem to spend more time on minor and minority issues than anything else. Some seem obsessed with US politics instead of concentrating on fighting for people's incomes, rights, welfare etc etc. What happened to attacking the tory lot? |
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What do you make of this piece mobo, listened to it earlier on LBC. (Only 4 mins)
Maajid Nawaz worries that the British left is no longer liberal. Watch as he explains why. . http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/maajid-nawaz/maajid-the-left-is-no-longer-liberal/?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral |
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More than 50,000 abusive and offensive tweets were sent celebrating Labour MP Jo Cox’s murder and lauding her killer, Thomas Mair, as a “hero” or “patriot” in the month following her death.
Holy sh!t, what's wrong with people. |
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We know Remainer types are a spiteful lot! You wouldn't put it past them
to be behind a large percentage of them Tweets! |
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Not sure what drives these idiots to do this although most who are outed in the media are loners and lack social graces.
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ron
 I genuinely laughed out loud at that. |
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ron
clearly mr nawaz is a trouble maker. How did he get in the country? My friend in Turkey knows how to deal with dissenters straying from the righteous path. ALLI BABA and all that wait for the outpourings now I have said that ho ho!!! |
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If the defenders of the faith come on here I will demand a safe space.
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Porky pine -plenty of support from the old tramp with the beard who murdered thousands ,but it's ok he never shouted Cuba first when he did it innitt
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We could have a designated thread for "safe space" if things are getting
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flush, you're going to have to explain. Did Castro have an involvement in the murder of Jo Cox?
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A_T • November 26, 2016 12:36 PM GMT
flushgordon1 Joined: 25 Jun 11 Replies: 8452 26 Nov 16 12:07 Mi5/6 have currently nearly 3000 people who are being monitored of these 3000 there are a few right wing nutters Most of those are here |
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Porky playing the daftie card is becoming as irrelevant as the racism card.
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I'm being serious. You're trying to draw some comparison between Castro and Mair? Just really struggling to see it. Unless you're assuming I'm a massive Castro fanboy.
Specially curious because my input wasn't about Mair but about the 50,000 tweets in support of him. |
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I find it hard anyone would support what Mair did?
 As for Mair himself, well I still wonder on his sanity. Still he would have needed incarceration for life either in Prison or a Secure Mental Hospital. I thought the latter, but that was not the verdict. |
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This from the Labour Party 'Leader'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38117068 And this from a man who abhors violence.. |
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It doesn't suit the Government & Main Stream Medias agenda to put this white killer down as
"Mentally I'll" |
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They've used it plenty of times within minutes concerning our friends from ME though..
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Former Labour MP George Galloway tweeted a picture of himself with Mr Castro, writing: "You were the greatest man I ever met Comandante Fidel. You were the man of the century."
Took that from the same link G2D. Another man of peace.  |
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Aye, when it suits them..
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there may well have been pressure on those who assessed him
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Is this the make stuff up section? Just checking if we've completely given up on facts as a thing now.
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Obviously they needed to report the possible truth to start with to keep
it in line with the immediate conclusion they come to when a member of the supposed religion of peace is involved..... but as soon as they could, they dropped that theory - this is where the agenda is put back into place |
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Because they dropped it as soon as they could they still write about it at the end of November, many months after the murder?
I know you're trying to make out as if there's some agenda against the white man, but that is so disingenuous and plain false from you. Do remember how resiliant the media were to call out Dylann Roof, Anders Breivik and Robert Lewis Dear Jr. as what they are - terrorists? The first two white supremacy terrorists, the latter one a full blown Christian terrorist, but instead they were mostly just described as mentally ill killers or mass murderers. Even if muslim terrorists are described as mentally ill, the terrorist label is always there. Rightly so, but we're failing to call the non-muslim terrorists out for what they are a lot of times. Similar story with migrant crime. Stuff that would be reported in a local newspaper at best if a local white dude commits it, makes front page national news if it's done by a muslim looking dude. Or take riots and even peaceful protest by minorities because they've had enough of the constant disenfranchisement: heavily scrutinised and critisised, sometimes ridiculed, while drunk white frat dudes burning cars down, throwing bottles at police men and stealing street signs because they lost a college basketball game gets a"haha, you lil rascals" treatment from the media and large parts of the population. And how quickly did the media (and people on here) lose interest in the Thursday Montpellier killing when it started looking like it might not have been a muslim attacker? |
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Do remember how resiliant the media were to call out Dylann Roof, Anders Breivik and Robert Lewis Dear Jr. as what they are - terrorists?
and, in fact, Thomas Mair too. |
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mental illness is a terrible thing - one need only glance through chit-chat threads to see how devastating it can be
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Why was no medical evidence called on the state of Mair’s mental health?
The prosecution would have had no interest in proving that he was insane, or that his responsibility was diminished as a result of mental health problems. Why then did the defence not call any such evidence? Insanity or, more realistically, manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility, provided the only remotely plausible escape route from a life sentence. So why did the jury not hear from any psychiatrist? There are quite a number of explanations: perhaps Mair had refused to co-operate with the preparation of any such report. Perhaps he had co-operated but the psychiatrists had agreed that he was entirely sane and not suffering from any relevant mental health problems. Even though the defence did not run any form of “psychiatric” defence, it is likely that before he is sentenced the judge will want to give some consideration to his mental health. |
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& Lets not forget the way a large percent tried to exploit the murder of Jo Cox
Well then, the BBC has excelled itself in the past 24 hours since the tragic murder of Labour MP Jo Cox. All decent people will have been shocked by her very public and very brutal killing. The alleged killer is a man with a history of mental illness, Thomas Mair. The exact circumstances seem unclear and we don’t know why he shot and stabbed her. But the BBC is a different trajectory. It has been hellbent to establish the idea that Mair was a right wing extremist who shouted “Britain First” before he carried out his foul deed. The BBC has persisted with this despite the fact that two of the three eye witnesses who are alleged to have heard this have since made clear they did NOT and the third is a BNP supporter! The intent is clear. Smear those MILLIONS of British people who are preparing to vote to LEAVE next Thursday. Emotionally blackmail them, embarrass them – make them either stay at home or change their mind. The BBC has been sickening over this – as has it’s print arm, The Guardian. They are implying that the likes of UKIP are the “hate” that drove Mair to kill. This grotesque calumny is the only show in town today. Shameful. One week before the EU referendum, with Vote Leave ahead and with clear momentum, and Cameron floundering – all of a sudden this. Campaigning has been suspended, I suspect some would like to see the actual vote suspended. And all the while the BBC is working feverishly to politicise a murder. |
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Is porkypine denying he is a nutter?
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No, just questioning the line that there was pressure on those who assessed him. Has there been any basis for that at all?
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The same kind of experts said Peter Sutcliffe wasn't a psycho, so they could give him the full force, I am quite sure he is.
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mair ran no defence
he could , and maybe should have sought his own solicitor, and then taken their advice imo he is ill, and his illness also stopped him seeking a proper defence i hope he will get the help he deserves, he probably was assessed but probably didnt cooperate and therefore we have this outcome the whole process has been very very speedy ! |
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That's a whole lot of coulds, maybes and probablys.
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indeed,
maybe one day we will find out |