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zorrostrikes
22 Nov 16 07:11
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This was tried ten years ago and they abandoned it when people rallied.
Now it's here again, attacking from the NHS flank.
It's backdoor enforcement of universal ID.

This will lead to being chipped like a family pet.
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Report TheChaser November 22, 2016 8:00 AM GMT
No need for chips when most people carry smartphones


Apps let YOU know where you have been all day by showing your walking or driving on a map

Well they let you think it's about for your benefit
Report TheChaser November 22, 2016 8:02 AM GMT
Iphone 10/11/12 will be out soon though so it's something to get people working a month for

Fecking ejits
Report detraveller November 22, 2016 2:34 PM GMT
No one needs to chip anyone in this age. Smartphones are doing the job and people are paying money for that!
Report TheChaser November 22, 2016 2:57 PM GMT
Yeah but the phones are free if contract Grin

The Bill is nothing to do with buying the phone
Report TheChaser November 22, 2016 2:58 PM GMT
Get a free £20 Tablet and everyone is chuffed
Report zorrostrikes November 23, 2016 2:53 AM GMT
how hard can it be to add a photo into the nhs database ? they have my records already. just ask for a photo to be sent? my mail.
Report Dr Crippen November 23, 2016 9:27 AM GMT
I'd got nothing against IDs when Labour proposed to introduce them. Except that we had to pay for them ourselves.
Now this issue of restricting NHS treatment has come up, they would have been very useful.
Report G1_Jockey_4 November 23, 2016 9:40 AM GMT
i forget how much they were proposing to charge?

id say if you have a passport or driving license that should count as valid id.

if you have neither then you should have to get id.
Report TheChaser November 23, 2016 10:41 AM GMT
People will just sell them and make fakes

More money for criminals ... GREAT IDEA Laugh
Report Jack Hacksaw November 23, 2016 12:00 PM GMT
Great isn't it.

Twenty first century and, in order to prove identity, so that there is no money laundering or abuse of NHS services we need to select one from list A and one from list B.

List A is photographic evidence and includes a passport (well, what is that if not an ID card) or a driving licence (ditto).

List B includes mainly utility bills.  Yes, paper utility bills when most people pay online with direct debits.
Report trilby22 November 23, 2016 1:00 PM GMT
What reasonable person would object to producing personal identification to prove they're entitled to NHS treatment?
Report TheChaser November 23, 2016 1:19 PM GMT
trilby i would as i go private
Report zorrostrikes November 23, 2016 1:20 PM GMT
the hospitals have access to your file, Detailing all the stuff thats happened in your life medically. They could just add a photo to the file. A passport photo size that could be handed in to your GP with your name on the back.

Problem solved.
Report TheChaser November 23, 2016 1:21 PM GMT
Zorro stop making things easy and cheap

They got to wax the tax cash
Report TheChaser November 23, 2016 1:27 PM GMT
tax free now 12.5k up from 11k

but wages up 30p an hour so really not as good as it seems is it
Report zorrostrikes November 23, 2016 1:40 PM GMT
common sense costs nothing..
Report TheChaser November 23, 2016 1:52 PM GMT
HERE HERE  Mischief
Report Knight Commander November 23, 2016 8:35 PM GMT
My driving licence is the old paper type and I don't have a valid passport so I would presumably have to pay for one which I otherwise don't need.

More income for the govt.
Report TheChaser November 23, 2016 9:59 PM GMT
how old is it knight
Report zorrostrikes November 24, 2016 12:39 AM GMT
my driving license looks like the dead sea scroll. it's 32 years old.
i don't have a photo id of any sort. Fk it... let me die.
Report TheChaser November 24, 2016 1:07 AM GMT
the photo ones need renewed every 10 years
Report akabula November 24, 2016 1:17 AM GMT
Can't see anything wrong with universal IDs.
Report akabula November 24, 2016 1:18 AM GMT
You're okay with a 32 yo DL but can get fined if yer picture one is more than 10 yo.
Report akabula November 24, 2016 1:19 AM GMT
Just noticed yer avatar Chaser. That you got a Christmas job then?
Report trilby22 November 24, 2016 8:58 AM GMT

Nov 23, 2016 -- 8:35PM, Knight Commander wrote:


My driving licence is the old paper type and I don't have a valid passport so I would presumably have to pay for one which I otherwise don't need.More income for the govt.


Wrong KC.  It counts as ID.  I assume you pay one or more of Council Tax, rent / mortgage, electric / gas bills?

Report trilby22 November 24, 2016 8:59 AM GMT

Nov 24, 2016 -- 1:19AM, akabula wrote:


Just noticed yer avatar Chaser. That you got a Christmas job then?


Catalogues?

Report trilby22 November 24, 2016 9:00 AM GMT

Nov 24, 2016 -- 8:58AM, trilby22 wrote:


Nov 23, 2016 --  8:35PM, Knight Commander wrote:My driving licence is the old paper type and I don't have a valid passport so I would presumably have to pay for one which I otherwise don't need.More income for the govt.Wrong KC.  It counts as ID.  I assume you pay one or more of Council Tax, rent / mortgage, electric / gas bills?


^ and that you have a bank account?

Report TheChaser November 24, 2016 10:17 AM GMT
trilby and AKA you know am a proper grafter me

Report Dr Crippen November 24, 2016 10:22 AM GMT
This was tried ten years ago and they abandoned it when people rallied.

It didn't happen quite like that.

Labour were going through with the plan to introduce ID cards, but they lost the 2010 general election.
The Tories who were elected promptly scrapped it.
Report TheChaser November 24, 2016 10:26 AM GMT
Are they coming out for sure?
Report zorrostrikes November 24, 2016 11:31 PM GMT
i remember a lot of people up in arms about it...
i didn't fkin imagine it.
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