Question Time

I would

She stood in the last Scottish elections going for the 2nd vote. Got about 200 votes.

cat saying she's not a politician

she stood for election

Wouldn't say no G2D

No offence to ye Aka by saying hun, i was told on my first visit to an old firm game that ye are either a tim or a hun... Hard to forget tbph..

didnt vote

youth is wasted on the young

Misterton (Harborough) result:
CON: 50.4% (-24.7)
LAB: 23.3% (-1.6)
LDEM: 15.1% (+15.1)
UKIP: 11.2% (+11.2)

Votes are wasted on the young

Yeah just let the old farts decide everything

Wouldn't mind a threesome with the mathmetician tbh..

Nicholson should play a panto dame, he wouldn't need any more make-up, a big dress would do.

yeah old farts should be banned from voting. No disrespect intended aka ya old fart

Love the SNP, referendums are only democratic outpourings of joy when they want them, when they don't they are due to nasty right wingers, even when the majority of the population vote in the affirmative!

LOLLED at the posh SNP supporter in the audience who thinks that her vote counts less because she is SCottish when all votes counted the same? WTF?

And the clueless old guy  .. is that Alias? SNP supporters are so dense and chippy!

Very few of the young voted in the referndum, obviously couldn't be bothered to get out of bed.

Them posh totty like a bit of rough g2d

I'd have to file the phucker down a bit to be sure..

Nae decent dentists in Ingerlund

themightymac
yeah old farts should be banned from voting. No disrespect intended aka ya old fart

Says the only poster on here to have seen the Wembley Wizards live.

Just let middle aged pot bellied reactionaries decide everything

He'd need a kango for this phucker

Nicolson and Boyd livid that the great unwashed British public were allowed a vote on EU membership.

are we watching trainspotting2

Haldens (Welwyn Hatfield) result:
CON: 34.1% (-1.3)
LAB: 30.8% (-6.9)
LDEM: 29.6% (+17.8)
GRN: 5.5% (-9.5)

old bloke should be trainspotting

How thick is Cat Boyd.

that's why BBC invited her

to kill independence vote

Editor of moneyweek - more like editor of the Beano

Deffo ripe for a threesome is bouncy booby Cat..

Where's the Cap'n?

Probably drinking a bottle of Mateus Rosé outside Asda..

post truth

skintos nap  fri is a dog

nicholson a bitter vile character

Wakefield in a couple of weeks might be interesting, big labour majority, big brexit vote.

Nicholson has a doppelganger in London called Biggins

Ignore above, marginal seat, how times have changed.

"How thick is Cat Boyd." Very. She is such a hypocrite as well. But clearly thick.

She complaned about the US vote being stacked against clinton because of way their boundaries are drawn and her winning the popular vote. Then minutes later complains about the UK boundaries being redrawn as if this a Tory conspiracy but it's because Labour have a built in 5% lead due to bad boundaries and they are currently unfair - all that's happening is they are being made equal again.

So it's the exact same thing in Reverse! Ok maybe she's not a hypocrite, just too thick to understand it.

Or maybe it's ok to have unfair boundaries if they favour left wing parties?

And you accuse others of hate -filled posts , you bitter little person

Irony overload in that post anxious

On This Week, Portillo told Liz Kendall that immigration alone will cost labour lots of seats as she was still blathering about people feeling "left behind". Portillo knows.

Andrew Neil in triumphalist mode, another horrible product of Thatcher and Murdoch

Andrew Neil in triumphalist mode, another horrible product of Thatcher and Murdoch

I would post the picture if I could.

An odious upstart.

Portillo has become the voice of reason, along with Andrew Neil who is very quick to expose liberal hypocrisy.

And rightly so.

UKIP will clean up in 2018

Labour need to adopt Bob Crow's views to stand any chance.

Labour voters want to hear the words 'we support work permits being required for foreign nationals'

I can't understand why Bob Crow's voice didn't carry more clout within the Labour party,perhaps he was drowned out by the Blair lobby ?

More than likely treetop, with Blair turning his back on Clause IV will have cemented his views.

This is what he thought about Blair

He squandered a massive landslide from an electorate hungry for change, poured billions of public pounds into private pockets and accelerated the growing gap between rich and poor.

Yet few criticised Blair during his first term.
That was while he was giving away billions in benefits and shaping the future of Britain through multiculturalism and mass immigration.
In fact the second time Blair was elected with a reduced majority, wasn't through opposition to his policies.

It was down to complacency and the general view that he would win easily. So people didn't bother to vote.

Did You ever vote for Blair Crippen ?

Nov 18, 2016 -- 8:45AM, Dr Crippen wrote:

Yet few criticised Blair during his first term. That was while he was giving away billions in benefits and shaping the future of Britain through multiculturalism and mass immigration.In fact the second time Blair was elected with a reduced majority, wasn't through opposition to his policies.It was down to complacency and the general view that he would win easily. So people didn't bother to vote.

....and his first win was 'because they weren't the  (nasty) Tories'

Yes anxious.

Nevertheless, it was the policies I mentioned in my last post, as well as the undermining of workers' jobs and wages through oversupply of labour that set me against the Labour party.

I couldn't believe that a party founded on the principles of helping the workingman, could support and instigate policies that would lead to a sharp erosion of their living standards.

First they baited the trap with higher benefits and giveaways. Then they snuffed out opposition to their plans with cries of racism.

And the people fell for it hook line and sinker. 

However the chickens appear to be coming home to roost with the rapid decline of support for them.

Blair was and still is a Tory boy.

Labour's finished.

Uncontrolled immigration ... who in their right minds would vote for that?

The Labour party is not finished far from it.

It is finished with the working class vote anxious.

Only a few of you tribalist's left.

Nonsense Zen here in the North the Labour Party still has tremendous support whats the alternative Ukip ?

labour party is finished in scotland because they left the working class and in stepped the snp

they have  of course left the working class in england too and ukip are trying to step  in
they will lose most of their northern and midland seats at the next GE, its just a question of who to

they have abadonned and betrayed the white working class
all they stand for now are non white people and the leftie north london metroploe dummies and actors and luvvies a la lineker

as a serious party of  government they are done

That was before the referendum anxious.

You do know that that the working class voted to Leave the EU don't you?
Why would they carry on supporting a party that supports free-movement?

If Brexit looks problematic with Labour ignoring that ending free-movement is priority then Labour will be stuffed up North.

Absolute garbage Ukip have no answers for this country apart from scapegoating foreigners for our problems , their economic policies are anti- labour in the north and anti =tory on the South

Yes im aware a lot of Labour supporters did vote to leave , not everybody is motivated by Nationalism though.

anxious has appoint to a certain extent.

Those whose only contribution to the state is their offspring will always vote Labour. And there are more of them than meets the eye.

They'll still attract the immigrant vote. Along with public sector workers thinking of their cushy jobs and gold plated pensions.

Yet they'll need more than them to get elected.

And with the proposed boundary changes as well - no chance.

I think you will find Crippen a lot of immigrants vote Tory

Absolute garbage Ukip have no answers for this country apart from scapegoating foreigners for our problems , their economic policies are anti- labour in the north and anti =tory on the South


The working class have always been right-wing regarding immigration anxious, it's just that for years and years they held some tolerance.
That tolerance has now waned anxious, due to the Labour Party encouraging free-movement.
No party can be successful if it no longer represents those it was created to represent.

It has taken votes off the British working class but has now moved away from them.

Well that leaves fewer to vote for Labour.

That may be true about immigration people are concerned about the levels of it , I think soon enough them concerns will be addressed by Labour , there is however much more than that such at the austerity aimed at the people , the greed of the banks and the financial institutions , the rip off utilty merchants, the reductions in social care and the privatization of the NHS by cowboy chancers.

It's true what ZenMaster said about immigration and the working class.

The cornerstone of unionism, is protecting its workers from unfair competition.
Which is the first principle Labour threw out of the window.

How union members allowed this over supply of labour from abroad to happen without a whimper from them is a mystery.

Perhaps as has always been suggested, most of them really are thick?

I think Labour were last in power over 6 years ago , I fail to see what the Tories have done about immigration or anything else to be honest

Of course the problem is now that One Nation Theresa has to deal with Farage pulling her even further to the right

The Tories were in coalition until the last election.
We only had the referendum on the EU this year.

If there wasn't so much opposition to limiting immigration coming from the left. It might have been addressed years ago.

Dear me Crippen you will blaming Labour for the stock market crash next

I am a lefty through and through and a corbyn supporter for want of nothing better.  I know for a fact that until we address immigration and the eu/brexit  we will be rodgered at the next election unless the tory lot have some sort of disaster. These are corbyn's Achilles heel.

The liberals and left still cling to the same disastrous ideology.

Sure we accept that it a problem , but its not the only problem we have and it is absurd to believe that if all the foreigners and Migrants went home we would have solved everything

The scapegoat culture is not a new thing if you look through history its been recycled lots of times

You can see voters' problem with labour.
Even though some of their supporters suggest that immigration is an issue.
The leadership of the labour party refuses to accept it.

The leadership won't even concede that it is a problem let alone consider addressing it.

the only thing that might happen is that at a General Election, that traditional Labour voters cannot bring themselves to vote Tory or Liberal and would more than likely not vote at all, letting UKIP in. I reckon about 70-80 seats.

anx   not 5 -8  million(no one knows the true numbers because of illegals)  - some Huguenots, Jamaicans in late 50s 60s etc but not the massive invasion in Blairs time and in such a VERY SHORT time

no comparison at all to the number of foreigners who have come here and also the indigenous leaving

if one of my daughters goes for a job but an immigrant (via an agency) paid less etc gets it how do you think she or anyone else feels

this is the problem Labour have accepting waged and salaried people situations.

anxious is waiting for his hero Rupert to start up a party

In anxious's last post, he starts by admitting that immigration is a problem.

Then tones down his stance by suggesting that others want to send immigrants home, and that wouldn't solve anything.

Then goes even further by saying that immigrants are being used as scapegoats. Which almost reverses what he said in his first sentence.

As anxious displays here. Immigration is endemic in Labour's thinking.
They will not compromise on it.

so the tory lot don't build enough houses but still give tens of thousands of council and social housing FIRST  to immigrants who have been her for a few months

it is happening here in west london 

Labour just want to pack more in and fail to see why people don't want to trust them anymore.

of course they after any votes they can get (if they have a vote of course)

it goes down well with the asian vote

but the funniest was when they interviewed an asian shopkeeper (oop north)  who said to the interviewer he didn't want
anymore immigrants in the country

That would never happen mobo

A company will pay more to an agency than if it contracted a worker direct.

I have not denied there is a problem , more did come through the EU freedom of movement and more have arrived via non EU countries, i think Jeremy and the leadership are wrong about this problem, but lets not say it is the only problem or that is responsible for everything that goes wrong

This mobo

if one of my daughters goes for a job but an immigrant (via an agency) paid less etc gets it how do you think she or anyone else feels


If your daughter and the immigrant are both signed up for the same agency, then the agency will have to pay the same wage. BUT the company may prefer the immigrant because they can manipulate the immigrant easier.

British workers are being nosed out because hey are more likely to want guaranteed hours, the immigrant will accept being used and abused ( an agencies wet dream)

The tories for all their posturing have done nothing to address this issue

Everbody knows that Immigrants will accept less money and be less likely to complain about anything

Very true anxious, they obviously supported free-movement as it benefits the 'owners'

This is were the Labour Party should be stepping in and supporting a work permit system that will ease the over-supply situation and give the agencies a thump on the nose.

Obviously for that, we need to leave the EU.

Yes i agree with that

yes I take your point -  they do love the non-unionised bussed in Poles at the sandwich making factories

I don't want to beat on but - jobs where you have to speak polish
or spanish companies recruiting only spanish workers on contracts in the UK

or even the exclusive right/monopoly  of romanian's motorway scrap theft  (joke)

they get caught - go home and are back again a week later (quote from a motorway cop   ooooops)

heathrow baggage is another brilliant example of not belonging to the right demographic

The Tories have talked a good game about immigration but the fact is their donors want it.
They are not affected by immigration.
Big business want immigration.
The London liberal elite need the cheap nannies,maids and gardeners.

Its the working class oppose immigration.

Labour is no longer a party of the working class.
Its a party that supports rights of asylum seekers,LGBTI concerns,maternity for wealthy women and Islam.

Emily Thornbury is typical,affluent with a contempt for the working man.

not sure whether all industrialists want to stay in. Some see it as an opportunity to trade on a global level.

80% of big business supported Remain.

those that were asked and Cameron knew he would get the required answer. A lot sat on the fence (like some politicians) and so they  would escape ridicule or critiscism whatever the outcome.

big business support remain, the EU and Hillary Clinton

why?  they want to continue the expansion of globalism at the expense of the working man, to line their greasy pockets.

"globalism"..you got it! Not European. Europe is economically on the decline

they try to disguise globalism as something else by wrapping it up in a big diversity/multiculturism blanket.

thankfully more and more people are seeing thru it now.

The 'no borders' champions are he globalists wet dream.

More power to the few. Yet they can't see it.

Quite a few I have spoken to are drifting away from Labour anx. Their views on mass immigration and EU are not popular.

I know that the immigration issue is a problem for Labour i cannot understand why the leadership will not address the issue , all that is needed is sensible restrictions on the amount of people coming into the country , if this was done they would regain a lot of support