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14 Nov 16
12:56
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this ridiculous argument put forward by some pundits and thornberry that corbyns got a similar profile with a huge popular following,corbyn may have had a few 100 thousand leftie luvies join the party but over 9 million lab our voters ignored the party and voted for brexit,labour will get wiped out at the next election whilst they continue to ignore the reasons why people voted for brexit and trump, the only bandwagon tied to the labour party is the one leaving town, why cant they grasp it
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if brexit is done and dusted by 2020 election then corbyn
will be fighting on a different battleground if brexit leads to more hardship the tories will be struggling despite having delivered brexit churchill was voted out after the war ... corbyn on 27% which is about what trump got .... |
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2020,2030,doest matter when no one going to vote for a party happy with unlimited immigration
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if the doors are closed it wont be an issue, but i get the point, and agree
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if there is any pattern to these results le pennmust be a shoo in,
lefty incumbent who loves the eu and immigration,taking on by old establishment figure we,ve all seen before in sarkosy,its ripe for another upset |
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what would the tv media and the guardian do
both lots hate the pair of them - they don't fit in the agenda |
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they usually do well in first vote but not in the run off
the french reckon they vote with their heart in first election and with their head in run off still interesting to see what happens after the few years the french have had |
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1st time poster the French system does not favour Le Pen it is similar in a way to their army, starts out quite brash and brave at the first trench but then retreats and surrenders.
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The media are under estimating Le Pen's appeal,she has battled the establishment for many years and recent events will convince a lot of people she has been proved right about unlimited immigration.The current government denial has to change or she will be a shoo in.
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understand the perceived wisdom is the french electoral system makes it difficult for le pen to win but surely the liberal elite have failed the french people more than in any major western democracy ?
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I agree, sir, but you should also include Germany right up there with France. Its citizens have suffered terribly as well.
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