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Shrewd_dude
When: 11 Nov 16 13:05
Was a waste of time regardless of your view on Trump or Clinton as there was absolutely zero insight from most of the panel on why Trump actually got elected and the 1 or 2 (from the panel and audience) who did try to offer an insight were just shouted down. It was just an excercise in who could be the most derogatory about Trump.

Surely everyone who hasn't lived under a rock for the last year has heard what Trump has said and the negatives of his campaign. The election has now been decided and surely the regardless of their opinion their role (particularly if their job is being a politician or an "academic") is to try and offer some insight in to the result of the election or at least listen to those who do offer some insight and try and understand the reasons behind the outcome.

They may as well just have said Trump is a **** and anyone who disagrees with me is wrong. That Blond wifie was terrible. Just wanted to rant about her own thoughts on Trump. Quite bizarre since she is supposedly a professor of Humanities which studies human culture. You'd think she'd be capable of listening to other peoples views for more than 2 seconds.
By:
1st time poster
When: 11 Nov 16 13:09
as ive posted earlier mr balls was on ch 4,s the last leg 24hrs earlier laughing and joking with 3 leftie comedians about where he was putting his hands on his dancing partner
By:
1st time poster
When: 11 Nov 16 13:10
the blonde spends half her life peddling her shoite on the skys news review circuit
By:
anxious
When: 11 Nov 16 13:11
Will be interesting to see whether people will now support Corbyn who is very similar to Bernie Sanders and indeed quite similar to Trump apart from one thing RACE
By:
donny osmond
When: 11 Nov 16 13:15
corbyn is on the wrong side of brexit, (seemingly anyway) yet somehow he had prefect record to
support brexit and win popular support
By:
anxious
When: 11 Nov 16 13:19
Think that left to his own devices Jeremy was anti EU , a bit like may who was a silent remainer allegedly
By:
donny osmond
When: 11 Nov 16 13:25
he certainly has anti eu record


may was playing the game and maybe still is, i doubt she is that bothered either way having become pm
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 16 13:35
Corbyn missed a golden opportunity to promote Labour by opposing Brexit. Simply because he was afraid of his own pro EU MPs who knifed him in the back anyway.

Apart from looking inconsistent by switching his views so starkly from anti EU to pro EU.
He would surely now be reaping the rewards of the many disillusioned ex Labour supporters coming back to the flock.
As shown from the number of working people who voted to come out.

I think he showed very poor judgement there and dishonesty into the bargain.
By:
anxious
When: 11 Nov 16 13:42
Crippen you have a point there but he was already in trouble at the time with his own MPS
By:
anxious
When: 11 Nov 16 13:44
Poor judgement  more than dishonesty if had said he was for leave what would about 170 of his mps said , I would say about 70 Labour MPS were anti EU
By:
1st time poster
When: 11 Nov 16 13:52
the luvies love to throw the labels around and by their standards i,d wager that not a single person in the QT audience either in public or private would not be labled sexist. racist or misogynist,
but there to stupid to realise that makes it easier for the real bullies,sexists,misoginists, etc to get away with it
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 11 Nov 16 14:10
Anxious it all about immigration.

The working classes up and down this world hate immigration as they bear the brunt of it.

If the Labour Party carry on ignoring their base they will move to UKIP.
By:
donny osmond
When: 11 Nov 16 18:25
why would socialist labour supporters switch to ukip which is right wing nasty tories
in their book


fair dos they will short term,if they want to protest an anti brexit stance ....

but its not a natural home for their vote

of course the nasty tories would get wiped out too as they have brexit in their hands !
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Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 16 18:55
It's strange that the BNP couldn't attract the working class vote, when all of their policies with the exception of immigration were left-wing.
They were the natural home for the working class vote

Which shows the power of the press for portraying them as the far right.

The same kind of misinformation surrounds the oddly named UAF - Unite Against Fascism.

Which is made up mostly of Muslims. These are supporters of Islam which is a brutal totalitarian way of governing in anyone's book.
With more parallels to fascism than anything that the opponents of Islam in this country have ever proposed.

Yet the media always report them in a highly favourable light.
By:
donny osmond
When: 11 Nov 16 19:15
espousing a few socialist policies to pick up votes did not hide their intentions

ukip learnt from their mistakes and became a tolerable home for discontent

id be amazed if any of bnps 6% of the vote isnt now within ukip,


cameron and co tried the same dismissive tactics as worked on bnp,
but famously he isnt laughing now
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 16 19:41
It wasn't just a few socialist policies that I read on the BNP website. It was the whole set. excluding their stance on certain immigrants and immigration.

In fact a right-winger on politics at the time said he couldn't support the BNP because they were a bunch of lefties.

UKIP learned nothing from the BNP because UKIP have little in common with the BNP.

Even UKIP's stance on immigration was different to that of the BNP.
By:
donny osmond
When: 11 Nov 16 19:43
yes its stated policy is less draconian

hey ho,
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