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Start a new thread sado and get all the islamophobes together. Otherwise they are going to miss out on this news.
If only people had objected like this to the wars we waged, we might not have had this problem to start with. |
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I agree bombing them was a mistake, they are very good at killing each other and we could have saved a fortune.
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If the West hadn't entered the Gulf War in 1990 and stopped the brutal massacre and torture of Kuwaitis under Saddam Hussein, Iraq would have rolled over Saudi Arabia and the UAE as well and done the same to them. Saddam should have been taken out in 1991. Perhaps if we hadn't got involved the problems would be worse.
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CLYDEBANK29 • October 29, 2016 5:08 PM BST
I think Lily Allen should be aware of a bit of recent history, as she does her best to absolve ISIS, Saddam Hussein, The Taliban and Al Qaeda from any involvement in the situation in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria and laughably pin the blame on British involvement.... Can you explain to me how our involvement has improved the situation in the Middle East???????????? How do you think it could be any worse? detraveller • October 29, 2016 10:14 PM BST Start a new thread sado and get all the islamophobes together. Otherwise they are going to miss out on this news. If only people had objected like this to the wars we waged, we might not have had this problem to start with. I agree detravellar,if we had only stayed out of the Middle East, they would not be here now |
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I know why we intervened in the Middle East, and believe me it was evil
just my own opinion |
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If you support Islam you are both sexist and homophobic, but if you are Islamophobic you are racist?
Let's stop the hypocrisy please. |
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I agree there Clydebank...you are hypocritical!
I neither support or oppose Islam, it is a religion, it has nothing to do with me. |
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If the West hadn't entered the Gulf War in 1990 and stopped the brutal massacre and torture of Kuwaitis under Saddam Hussein, Iraq would have rolled over Saudi Arabia and the UAE as well and done the same to them. Saddam should have been taken out in 1991. Perhaps if we hadn't got involved the problems would be worse.
Too many would have could have....we know what our involvement has done and its there for everyone to see. |
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What really p1sses me off is people dont have the balls to face a war that comes home. When you wage a war, the other side hits back. And people here in Europe can't even handle a few refugees wielding knives now and then when these refugees and their fellows back home had to face a full flegdge army comprising of over a dozen nations!
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Can you explain to me how our involvement has improved the situation in the Middle East????????????
How do you think it could be any worse? I already have. |
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ebul you can't espouse sexual equality and gay rights and not be Islamphobic. If being Islamaphobic means you are racist then go figure.
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You surmised it, still if it is your opinion.
All we know is what has happened and don't see how it could be much worse, the death toll is appalling. The Arabs need strong rulers, we took that away from them, look what has happened. I don't espouse sexual equality or gay rights myself actually. Muslim believe in different roles for men and women. Homosexuality was illegal until 1961 in our own society. I think it should be legal, but I oppose gay marriage |
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I am not scared of Islam, I suspect that those who roll over for em are.
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Fwiw Iraq attacked Saudi, that is not a would have. The Western Alliance meant it stopped it in it's tracks. The attacks on the WTC and numerous other attacks happened before the deposing of Saddam. We were already at war.
It probably wasn't wise to depose Saddam 10 years too late, but you have to make tough decisions in war and you are not going to make the right call every time. The Western Alliance repatriated Kuwait, prevented Saudi from falling too, took out the terrorist Bin Laden and severely weakened the brutal Taliban. All good things in my book. |
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Jesus. It was Saudis who allegedly did the WTC attacks. What did that have to do with Saddam?
And do you seriously believe a group of soldiers killed Osama one night, dumped the world most wanted man since 10 years into the sea and then all of them died later in a crash? Grow up. |
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The Iran/Iraq war went on for years and years. It's a brutal region under pinned by a brutal religion. The move towards increased freedoms over the last 50 to 100 years doesn't sit with a way of life built around oppression.
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Jesus. It was Saudis who allegedly did the WTC attacks. What did that have to do with Saddam?
I never indicated it did. The rest of your post are the ramblings of an incoherent childish rant. |
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I'm not going to continue with mud slinging and name calling, but I was alluding to there being massive troubles in the region prior to the deposing of the dictator. I already said that at that time it probably was a mistake. GN.
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Thats the point. People think because those people llove killing each other, it doesn't matter if we kill a few of them as well.
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Matter of opinion who is ranting.
If one looks at Iraq before all these wars. You would find most Iraqi's were able to live a fairly normal life, as long as they kept their nose clean. Which is what most people want. The Iraqi/Iran war was brutal. But the people of Iraq believed in it, they did fight for Saddam. Arab societies are not like ours, we should have left them alone. But we chose to destabilise strong Arab Leaders, why would do that? |
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What world have you got to be in to think you have the right to apologise
on behalf of the country. same group as Bob "give me the money" Geldof |
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October 10, 1944: Eight hundred children are gassed to death at Auschwitz
63 years ago, on this day in 1944, 800 "Gypsy" children, including more than a hundred boys between 9 and 14 years old, were systematically murdered by the Nazi's at Auschwitz in occupied Poland. Rail entrance to the Auschwitz administrative center. After processing, people were either sent to Birkenau to die, or Monowitz to work. The complex consisted of three main camps: Auschwitz I, the administrative center; Auschwitz II (Birkenau), an extermination camp or Vernichtungslager; and Auschwitz III (Monowitz), a work camp, or Arbeitslager. "A group of Gypsy prisoners, awaiting instructions from their German captors, sit in an open area near the fence in the Belzec concentration camp." Belzec, 1940 Called "gypsies" in English, because of a mistaken belief they descended from Egyptians, they are more appropriately (and less pejoratively) called "Romani" people. Popular romantic image of the Romani and their itinerant lifestyle. There was an ugly side to it because whenever anything turned up missing, these folks were often blamed, whether there was any evidence to support the allegation or not. Frankly, it was probably more convenient to blame a rootless person than the guy next door. In 1935, the Nuremberg laws stripped the Romani people living in Nazi Germany of their citizenship, after which they were subjected to violence and imprisonment in extermination camps. The policy was extended in areas occupied by the Nazis during the war, and it was also applied by their allies, notably the Independent State of Croatia, Romania and Hungary. Because no accurate pre-war census figures exist for the Roma, it is impossible to accurately assess the actual number of victims. Ian Hancock, director of the Program of Romani Studies at The University of Texas at Austin, proposes a figure of up to a million and a half, while an estimate of between 220,000 and 500,000 was made by the late Sybil Milton, formerly senior historian of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum.. In Central Europe, the extermination in the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia was so thorough that the Bohemian Romani language became totally extinct. The Romani were singled out for brutal treatment by Hitler's regime early on ostensibly because they were deemed "carriers of disease" and "unreliable elements who cannot be put to useful work." They were marked for extermination along with the Jews of Europe from the earliest years of the war. Romani people of Bulgaria In 1950, as European Romani attempted to gain compensation for their suffering, as were other victims of the Holocaust, the German government denied them anything, saying, "Gypsies have been persecuted under the Nazis not for any racial reason but because of an asocial and criminal record." They were stigmatized even in light of the atrocities committed against them. Have we learnt nothing ? Does man's inhumanity to man just continue ? We live in a civilised society don't we ? Shouldn't we be demonstrating a humanitarian position ? |
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Replies: 22490 30 Oct 16 02:36 This member is an **** & we have blocked his posts from you to view |
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Lets start the crusades again
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Hollande is demanding we take in a further 1500 child immigrants that have turned up at Calais on top of the 350 estimate taken in during the past 2 weeks. The councils of the UK, that will end up footing the bill, says it costs £133,000 a year to keep each immigrant child in the UK. That works out at just over £246 million per year to keep this latest batch, roughly £6 million for each county council. Enjoy your council tax rises next year folks.
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The government was facing fresh questions last night over its scheme to bring child refugees from the Calais Jungle to Britain after an investigation by The Sunday Times found that one of them was enrolled at a university in Afghanistan more than three years ago.
Haris Stanikzai, who says he is 16 and was one of the first to be given sanctuary, also has an internet dating profile which describes him as a 22-year-old. Photographs on social media, including two LinkedIn profiles listing him as a student at Jahan University in Kabul, show him with a beard and looking older… . http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/12fffb98-9e19-11e6-9703-be9a8cb3b5dc |
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it is funny how these pro islam and pro immigration fellas on here side with the establishment
the same establishment that has lied and conned us for a decade or more. now we have 8 million foreigners in this country and they want to let in more Lots of low wage earners to undercut those already here, living is poor conditions. Non unionised which big business loves. You ought to hear what goes on on building sites for starters. Workers living 5 to one room on 70 quid a day. Undercutting the rest of the workforce. AND YOU WANT MORE IN??? |
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Tommy Robinson Retweeted
Jon gaunt @jongaunt 1h1 hour ago Can we have comment please @GaryLineker @lilyallen Jungle migrant, 16, has internet dating profile claiming he's 22 Child migrant' who said he was 16 when he came to the UK from the Calais Jungle boasts of being 22 on a dating website and has a beard on his LinkedIn profile . http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3886766/Child-migrant-said-16-came-UK-Calais-Jungle-boasts-22-dating-website-beard-LinkedIn-profile.html |
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what makes me laugh is how those bastions of liberal thought ignore any of these stories - the guardian and bbc live in an alternative universe as far as immigrants are concerned.
They can cheat and lie or carry out attacks on women and if you read the guardian or watched the bbc you would never know. A most interesting pro islamic agenda they have. |
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the Germans will be surrendering faster than the French
A sociologist in Germany has blamed Germans for the lack of progress in integrating new migrants to the country claiming that the Germans themselves need to integrate into migrant cultures. Sociologist Annette Treibel has a message for Germans when it comes to the problems of integrating the huge amount of migrants who have flooded into the country: it’s probably your fault. Posing the question of why migrants would want to integrate into Germany when Germans refuse to learn their culture and language, Dr. Treibel claims that it is Germans who need integration courses into migrant cultures, not migrants who should adapt to Germany reports Die Welt. |
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He's only been here 5 minutes & already looking for wives
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If you look at the low-level workforce, you will realize why this man is not wrong. Its probably too direct to say that the germans should integrate into the migrant culture. But its not entirely wrong. The country is not run by the germans. its run by the migrants, especially from East Europe. People conveniently forget the reality.
The migrant culture of the Eastern European is not so distant from that of the culture of the German. The migrant culture of the Middle East is extremely different from that of the German. |
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Have we learnt nothing ? Does man's inhumanity to man just continue ?
We live in a civilised society don't we ? Shouldn't we be demonstrating a humanitarian position I agree, which is why as a First World nation, we have an international aid budget (ring-fenced despite the recent austerity years - correctly IMO) and are a driving force at the UN, International Courts of Law and will commit our (increasingly underfunded and limited) armed forces to humanitarian missions across the world. As a country / society, we are the first in line to support charitable causes, where the individual can choose the cause they wish to financially support. Our instincts are, in the main, good, sound, humanitarian ones and I suspect if even Ron-Russian saw a Muslim being beaten up for no reason other than he was a Muslim, he would intervene in some way. However, there is a world of difference between pragmatic, hands-on humanitarianism and liberal bedwetting. |
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and I suspect if even Ron-Russian saw a Muslim being beaten up for no reason other than he was a Muslim, he would intervene in some way.
He would join in. |
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ron is one of the good guys.
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I have the suspicion that Ron-Russian is a very nice person.
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We have low paid, homeless, poor, families struggling, children can't get into schools, a burgeoning birth rate amongst foreigners, food banks growing, NHS swamped and in financial difficulties and the lilly allen supporters on here want to let more in to pile on the pressure
fkn bananas |
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there's plenty of room. 90 per cent of the people live on 10 per cent of land.
1 million new homes are to be built by 2020. many new schools too. The problem is that immigrants are normally relocated in places like London and Birmingham, cities already overcrowded, the aim is to help them settle in by moving them to communities that speak their language and have the same culture, but to stop problems like lack of school places, new immigrant families need to start being moved into much smaller towns and villages, spread the load. |