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Breedingmad
23 Oct 16 09:11
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Cleverly designed so you can't negotiate trade deals before you trigger it once triggered
it doesn't matter how good your hand is the game only has one winner and you can't
stop it or prevent the consequences.
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Report Ibrahima Sonko October 23, 2016 9:35 AM BST
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Report treetop October 23, 2016 9:36 AM BST
Just one more good reason to leave this corrupt organisation.
Report Breedingmad October 23, 2016 9:37 AM BST
Brexiters have no idea so now they just keep quiet...
Report treetop October 23, 2016 9:39 AM BST
Thats because we know we have the decision on our favour,all we need is to be patient and it will happen in good time.
Report Ibrahima Sonko October 23, 2016 9:49 AM BST
Why do you care so much,Explain to me what is the worst that can happen ?



You come across as very insecure, a person who only leaves the horse racing forum for chit chat. Like you have no historical knowledge at all, im guessing your under 30 and have very little experience of the world.
Report saddo October 23, 2016 10:52 AM BST
He's much older and has lived in Germany and Belgium tbf. Mind you, they looked like Germany and Belgium in those days.
Report ZenMaster October 23, 2016 11:17 AM BST
Breeding mad has been conditioned by the BBC, he just doesn't realise it.

Hard hard Brexit is nothing to fear.
Any tariffs will be negotiated at 'mates rates'

Any attempt by the EU to deliberately destabilise the UK economy would not only be at the detriment to the EU, but as the UK is the spearhead of European representation in NATO it would be reckless for EU bureaucracy to in anyway hinder UK progression.

Always here to help breeding mad.
Report scandanavian_haven October 23, 2016 11:24 AM BST
The last thing the EU want is to make any kind of EU exit look attractive to the other bigger economies in Europe.

Straight choice now between single market access or immigration control. ReMAYner will go for the former so Soft brexit it is.
Report ZenMaster October 23, 2016 11:29 AM BST
The EU will have to reform from within to make membership seem more attractive, or make it more complicated to leave.
Let's not forget the bigger economic EU states are in the euro and geographically locked into the schengen zone. It would be much more complicated for other states to leave.
Report xmoneyx October 23, 2016 11:32 AM BST
13m
Mohamed A. El-Erian‏ @elerianm
.@EuroBriefing : “hard #Brexit would hurt Britain, it could also knock the eurozone back into crisis.It would be a pointless double suicide"
Report ZenMaster October 23, 2016 11:35 AM BST
That's why the EU won't allow it to damage the eurozone.
Hence an amicable arrangement.
Report Breedingmad October 23, 2016 11:46 AM BST
Never lived in Germany lived in Holland. Hard Brexit is a quick way to the poor house.What resources have we
got?, you forget through the winter we import a hell of a lot of food from the E.U or outside through E.U.
trade deals that member states take advantage of.To negotiate new deals outside these parameters could take
years to complete and take an army of highly trained expensive bureaucrats to negotiate.Australia has already
said it will negotiate trade with the E.U but is not interested in the U.K the U.S has indicated a similar
position by remarking we will be at the back of the queue..The cost of being in the E.U was roughly 30p per person
per day,to my mind the cost was well worth it.
Report saddo October 23, 2016 11:56 AM BST
Sorry m8, thought you said you did the other day, my mishtake.
Report saddo October 23, 2016 11:59 AM BST
*and I'd be happy to pay a pound a day if it means EU muslims can't drive in here with guns and explosives like they do over there.
Report Ovalman. October 23, 2016 12:07 PM BST
Buy British
Report ZenMaster October 23, 2016 12:08 PM BST
Breeding mad, once we are out of the EU/Single market we are free to buy from wherever we want, whenever we want away from the EU without trade deals.

hth
Report saddo October 23, 2016 12:20 PM BST
I can't think what appealed to remainers other than self interest.
Report dave1357 October 23, 2016 12:21 PM BST
So zen master you won't impose tariffs on imports when we face tariffs on all our exports?
Report Dotchinite October 23, 2016 12:21 PM BST
Breeding has his facts wrong anyway.

Im amazed just how cowardly these remainers are.IM surprised they dare leave their houses.
Report dave1357 October 23, 2016 12:22 PM BST

Oct 23, 2016 -- 12:20PM, saddo wrote:


I can't think what appealed to remainers other than self interest.


We have some vision, you just have xenophobia

Report dave1357 October 23, 2016 12:23 PM BST

Oct 23, 2016 -- 12:21PM, Dotchinite wrote:


Breeding has his facts wrong anyway. Im amazed just how cowardly these remainers are.IM surprised they dare leave their houses.


Its the brextits who are afraid of foreigners

Report saddo October 23, 2016 12:25 PM BST
I'm afraid of no one dave, I avoid lots of harmful things without being phobic.
Report saddo October 23, 2016 12:25 PM BST
I'm afraid of no one dave, I avoid lots of harmful things without being phobic.
Report ZenMaster October 23, 2016 12:33 PM BST
Its the brextits who are afraid of foreigners


But then the Remainers contradict themselves when they say the vote wasn't about leaving the single market (as a member) to end free movement.

Dishonest bunch these remainers.
Report ZenMaster October 23, 2016 12:34 PM BST
We have some vision, you just have xenophobia


So TMAY is correct in heading for hard Brexit.
It was all about immigration?
Report Dotchinite October 23, 2016 12:54 PM BST
Remainers clearly have no vision. They have just been scared into thinking we are reliant on the EU.

Its a big wide world out there with huge opportunities but remainers are too terrified to take them.
Report ZenMaster October 23, 2016 1:01 PM BST
Remainers are visionaries who cry over the exchange rates for their holidays.
Report Breedingmad October 23, 2016 1:09 PM BST
We were free to trade with the rest of the world in the E.U does Scotland not sell whisky outside the E.U?

https://fullfact.org/europe/eus-other-trade-agreements/
Report Ibrahima Sonko October 23, 2016 1:28 PM BST
Hard brexit, what a term, made up by the media and some use the term with no idea and no reference.
Report saddo October 23, 2016 1:40 PM BST
Freedom of movement hadn't been tought out BM. We have 1 million people on the mailand, they have over 3 million here and growing by a million every three years. The irony is they throw billions at countries pre-entry to build up their infrastructure. When everyone buggered off over here we cannot cope and we get nothing. There should be a central fund for coutries which are victim to such eventualities and instant benefit exlusions should be allowed, which is all Cameron asked for and what Germany has just done.c
Report Breedingmad October 23, 2016 1:42 PM BST
I think we should move the U.K out of the Northern Hemisphere lock stock and barrel to somewhere warmer that doesn't attract Foreigners
and the wrath of the E.U. Lets really take back control and move these Islands out of Europe for a better life
for all of us.You know it makes sense...
Report saddo October 23, 2016 1:46 PM BST
I put up reasons why it hasn't worked, you post more nonsense. I can see why it is difficult to argue the unarguable.
Report Breedingmad October 23, 2016 1:51 PM BST
At least it's a plan you ain't got one...
Report Dotchinite October 23, 2016 2:01 PM BST
Another wind up merchant. Is it UB's other account?
Report saddo October 23, 2016 2:10 PM BST
Breedingmad    23 Oct 16 13:51 
At least it's a plan


Aye, well, if you haven't an argument for freedom of movement it will have to do.
Report Breedingmad October 23, 2016 2:25 PM BST
Freedom of movement is actually a good idea what you're after is the equivalent of a U.S
state suddenly not allowing anyone from other states into their state if everybody does it
you have no mobility and an inefficient system, what you need is an agile,mobile  and flexible
workforce.
Report Breedingmad October 23, 2016 2:29 PM BST
I think people forget a lot of our builders went to work in Germany
purely for economic reasons.If our economy crashes in future you
want to take that right away and tell them they must stop here and
face unemployment and poverty.
Report saddo October 23, 2016 2:32 PM BST
Agile mobile and flexible means they could all end up in the same place, a place that was absolutely unprepared. I could see problems arising if that ever happens.
Report ZenMaster October 23, 2016 3:33 PM BST
Free movement is fine if the infrastructure of all states is close to equal.
Failing that, then it is a dumping ground for the economically displaced.
Report saddo October 23, 2016 3:58 PM BST
They are so desperate to leave Albania that 50,000 of em broke into Germany as Syrians.
Report Breedingmad October 23, 2016 4:03 PM BST
Why didn't they want to come here is it not good enough for them in the UK?
Report saddo October 23, 2016 4:08 PM BST
We weren't stood with a meagaphone shouting "If you say you are Syrian come on in" were we? You seem a bit silly lately.
Report Breedingmad October 23, 2016 4:14 PM BST
It's like reliving the 1930's at the moment so I don't find it particularly funny.
Report saddo October 23, 2016 4:17 PM BST
And before you ask, yes I know one Albanian, he earns a fortune as an interpreter at the courts and police stations round here. By chance a few years back one of his customers (attempted murder, smashed someone's head in) entered this house in handcuffs and tried to lock me outside, while on the run from custody. I had to drag his arse outside and wait for the police to catch up. Three of my neighbours are old ladies on their own, be could have chosen any house.
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