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Ched Evan - Not Guilty!

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By:
TheChaser
When: 14 Oct 16 16:26
He should be compensated for 4 years loss of earnings

Have the Jess Ennis stand re-named Cheds End

Hopefully he keeps scoring ( goals ) and he gets his career back on track the justice system and PC brigade have gave this man hell and now he needs to be left alone to do his job.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 14 Oct 16 16:28

Oct 14, 2016 -- 9:05AM, Racingqueen wrote:


I await Jessica Ennis Hills apology


+1

By:
ZenMaster
When: 14 Oct 16 16:28
Jess Ennis retires the day before Ched Evans is found not guilty?

Was she expecting it?
By:
crags
When: 14 Oct 16 16:29

Oct 14, 2016 -- 10:22AM, annie. wrote:


Stop it crags, you know that betfair posted that I am a woman


No I don't.

Anyway, the account could have been opened by a woman, but she could let anyone post in her name if she chose.

By:
TheChaser
When: 14 Oct 16 16:30
ZenMaster
ZenMaster 14 Oct 16 16:28 Joined: 24 Mar 16 | Topic/replies: 2,083 | Blogger: ZenMaster's blog
Jess Ennis retires the day before Ched Evans is found not guilty?

Was she expecting it?


Her lawyers would have let her know for sure
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 14 Oct 16 17:22
who can he sue ?

he was tried and convicted

new evidence was found


He can sue the police for being incompetent (or worse) for not getting that evidence.
By:
kincsem
When: 14 Oct 16 17:29
CLYDEBANK29
He can sue the police for being incompetent (or worse) for not getting that evidence.


Do they only stop gathering evidence when they have enough to get a conviction?
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 14 Oct 16 17:37
You can't sue the police for failing to find evidence which exonerates you. It's an adversarial justice system and that's why you have a solcitor/defence team to carry out any investigations and present evidence on your behalf.

He will likely get compensation for wrongful conviction though.
By:
DStyle
When: 14 Oct 16 17:39
nothing to do with the police.

it's the CPS who bring the case and it's certainly not their job to go and find witnesses for the defense.

and again, these new witnesses brought very little. the first jury got it very very wrong. that's all that happened.
By:
Roquebrune
When: 14 Oct 16 17:45
As I read it,the girl only reported her handbag missing,but a policewoman urged her to say she was raped.
By:
TheChaser
When: 14 Oct 16 17:46
I know small cases get sent to PF and they take it from there the police are pen pushers and iv'e heard that direct from a Coppers mouth.They just move on to the next job but for Rape and such i don't know.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 14 Oct 16 17:47
I'm bracketing the police in with the CPS.  Of course you can sue the police for negligence if they have been negligent.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 14 Oct 16 17:49
I take that back .. can only sue for misconduct
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 14 Oct 16 17:50
I still think you can sue in this case.  Time will tell
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 14 Oct 16 17:50
You can so anyone for being negligent but that's a very different thing from what you were talking about.
By:
TheChaser
When: 14 Oct 16 17:52
Ched Evans could get £500,000 for two and a half years in prison

He was on 20k a week
By:
s.kenbo
When: 14 Oct 16 17:53
I'd want twice as much money if I'd been sent to prison.
By:
s.kenbo
When: 14 Oct 16 17:54
My maths is a bit out there! Wink
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 14 Oct 16 17:56
Justice certainly, although he's still guilty of being a scumbag.

Still not sure what the new evidence was but at least we finally got the verdict that should've been returned first time around. Worse was when he was released and people still wanted to cut his balls off. Shame on all those clubs who bowed down to a few thousand ****s on Twitter. Well done to my hometown club for giving the skunk the second chance I'd like to think we would all deserve after we've done our time.

And shame on annie. Not once have I called annie a trucker, or Dave, or any of the other stick the poster using that username has received. Deserves all the flak coming for the poss on page 1 of this thread.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 14 Oct 16 17:57
Shrewd Dude actually you can' sue the police for negligence

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31025413
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 14 Oct 16 17:57
I doubt Evans receives much in the way of compensation btw, though I didn't believe he'd ever get a retrial either.
By:
Roquebrune
When: 14 Oct 16 17:59
Mikael D'Haguenet • October 14, 2016 5:56 PM BST
Justice certainly, although he's still guilty of being a scumbag.Why is he a scumbag? Don't girls enjoy sex?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 14 Oct 16 17:59
To sue for wrongful conviction you have to able to turn the "beyond reasonable doubt" premis on it' head.  I.e you have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that you are innocent.
By:
mafeking
When: 14 Oct 16 18:09
yep almost impossible to get compo for a wrongful conviction these days. you can't prove your innocent short of cast iron evidence they've got the wrong person

barry george didn't get any even though it was clear he's just not capable of gunning down anyone but no alibi no money
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 14 Oct 16 18:12
Roquebrune    14 Oct 16 17:59 
Why is he a scumbag? Don't girls enjoy sex?


If you want to give him a fist bump, go ahead. His actions were those of a scumbag.
By:
Roquebrune
When: 14 Oct 16 18:15
The last man as moral as you got crucified.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 14 Oct 16 18:27
Well if you think that turning up at 2 in the morning, shagging a girl you've never met who happens to be so drunk she pissed the bed, then leaving via a fire escape is commendable behaviour, like I say, high fives all around.
By:
Roquebrune
When: 14 Oct 16 18:32
So his mate who took her to the hotel and went first had to carry her upstairs on his shoulder,did he?
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 14 Oct 16 18:33
Clydebank that article is somewhat misleading. Negligence is when a person or organisations breaches it's duty of care towards someone. That article is basically explaining that the police owe no duty of care to any individuals in relation to their investigations like in the examples it mentions.

It fails to mention that there are some situations where the police do have a duty of care towards a person e.g when they are in police custody. The police can be sued for negligence in such cases where it has failed in its duty of care. There are cases s ess where the police have been sued for death in custody etc.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 14 Oct 16 18:34
His mate, who at least had spent more than  minute in her company, didn't have to serve a couple of years nor need a retrial to establish his innocence, did he?
By:
DStyle
When: 14 Oct 16 18:34
it's about probabilities.

what price she was too drunk to consent?

it was never 1.05 or shorter, but would you be laying anything bigger than 3s.
By:
Roquebrune
When: 14 Oct 16 18:37
Neither of them should have been charged in the first place.
By:
TheChaser
When: 14 Oct 16 18:38
Mika was it you who said he would never get a retrial to me a few year back or was that pandorica




Dr Crippen • April 15, 2016 11:11 AM BST
I'd like to meet Mikael D'Haguenet and give him a damn good hiding. Laugh

Crippen wants his goes
By:
Roquebrune
When: 14 Oct 16 18:39
Laugh
By:
Facts
When: 14 Oct 16 18:45
DStyle

You further debase a sordid event by discussing odds.
Very classy.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 14 Oct 16 18:58
Roquebrune    14 Oct 16 18:37 
Neither of them should have been charged in the first place.


I've never said otherwise.

TheChaser    14 Oct 16 18:38 
Mika was it you who said he would never get a retrial to me a few year back or was that pandorica


Well, as you can tell from the thread you started about him, me and Pandy aren't exactly golfing buddies. I don't recall having the onversation with you specifically but I already conceded that I didn't think the'd get a retrial, so won't insist it wasn't me either.

As for Dr Cretin, in his fkn dreams!
By:
dr . atkins
When: 14 Oct 16 19:17
i am fed up with these women who said when ched evan got found guilty how good the justice system is now after being found not guilty they come out and say we are going back to the dark ages with the law of the land
By:
DStyle
When: 14 Oct 16 19:18
Facts 14 Oct 16 18:45 
DStyle

You further debase a sordid event by discussing odds.
Very classy.


stop being an idiot.

I'm saying that not only the verdict, but also your opinion of Evans, rests exclusively on an assessment of the probability that the girl was too drunk to consent.
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 14 Oct 16 19:46
To sue for wrongful conviction you have to able to turn the "beyond reasonable doubt"

should be a piece of **** then.

the jury should never have convicted in the first place on what they were told.

must have been brexit voters.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 14 Oct 16 19:51
Is it 'beyond reasonable doubt'?

Judiciary need to have a better understanding of probability and odds than that expression.
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