U.S. ARMY CHIEF THREATENS WAR WITH RUSSIA

Call up papers on the way Рональд...

Watch the post..

David Icke's  mad - I don't think so, I'd rather listen to what he's got to say than anything from the lying MSM.

Him from last week talking about World War III
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SAw63RFKZ8

Cheers MMH

Hillary enthusiastic about going to war with Russia

Half way through - interesting MMH

Surely it is Russia who is sabre-rattling but the audience is not the United States, who can destroy Russia several times before breakfast. Rather, it is the ex-Soviet republics, and the domestic audience -- the Russian population who need to be distracted from the worsening economy.

exactly Ramruna

it is so funny to see posters scouring marginal blogs and youtubes to support their absurd beliefs while screaming about the "lying MSM"

Our economy will collapse before Russia.

The MSM tells us what we are supposed to believe.

Most of what we believe in we have been fed. It is often difficult to know what is true or not.

My own opinion is Putin stands up for Russian interests and has no designs on the West.

I cannot see how with Russia would help anyone?

So I agree with the OP

how war with Russia

Russia warns it will shoot down alliance jets over Syria if US launches air strikes against Assad

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/06/russian-air-defence-missiles-would-respond-if-us-launches-air-st/

I do not think Putin is bluffing......there needs to be great care here

A war with Russia would be utterly ridiculous....

We need somebody to solve this?

We need somebody to solve this?-

I'll see what i can do!

Ron

Mt suggestion is to withdraw all US and Russian planes from this area.

They were supposed to be attacking ISIS anyway, nobody else

The war continues between Assad and the Rebels, unless they can come to a permanent truce, divide Syria?

Surely it is Russia who is sabre-rattling but the audience is not the United States, who can destroy Russia several times before breakfast. Rather, it is the ex-Soviet republics, and the domestic audience -- the Russian population who need to be distracted from the worsening economy.

I wonder how the US would react if Russia installed missile systems across the border in Mexico.

People are saying that's exactly what the US want , so you wouldn't be surprised
to see attacks?

I don't think id fancy being the guinea pig to go up to see if Russia follows the
warning through though!

Kerry couldn't get through Congress attacks against the Syrian regime hence Russia giving it the big one.

"I think you're looking at three people, four people in the administration. I lost the argument. I've argued for the use of force. I'm the guy who stood up and announced that we're going to attack Assad for the use of weapons," Kerry is heard telling the Syrian attendees, referring to internal deliberations within the administration of President Barack Obama that followed Assad's use of chemical weapons in 2013.
Kerry also faulted Congress for failing to support such a retaliatory strike, saying, "The bottom line is that Congress refused even to vote to allow that."
"We have a Congress that will not authorize our use of force," he added, explaining that a new military intervention would be difficult to bring about.
The discussion in the recording occurred only days after the United States and Russia announced a ceasefire agreement in Geneva, an accord that has since collapsed with reports of regime bombing attacks and the positioning of some 10,000 Syrian regime-aligned troops preparing to advance on Aleppo.
The recorded conversation contains a series of revelations about Kerry's view of the ongoing civil war in Syria. Several of the meeting's participants have confirmed the recording's authenticity.
The Syrian civilians repeatedly questioned Kerry about violations of the ceasefire and America's unwillingness to enforce the agreement more strongly, and lobbied for a bigger US role.
Kerry cited legal restrictions and local air defenses as reasons why a US military intervention was not feasible.
"The problem is the Russians don't care about international law and we do. And we don't have a basis, our lawyers tell us, unless we have a Security Council resolution," he said.
"They were invited in, we were not," he added, referring to Moscow's military operations in Syria.
"We don't behave like Russians. It's just a different standard," Kerry said.
"The only reason they are letting us fly is because we are going after ISIL," Kerry said, using another term for ISIS. "If we were going after Assad, we would have to take out all the air defenses and we don't have a legal justification for doing that."
Kerry added, "So far, American legal theory does not buy into the so-called right to protect."
"Nobody (is) more frustrated than me," Kerry told the gathering.
Acknowledging that Russia's military actions have "changed the equation" and made removing Assad more difficult, Kerry suggested that Syrian refugees could one day help eject Assad if given the right to vote.

Kerry is heard telling the Syrian attendees, referring to internal deliberations within the administration of President Barack Obama that followed Assad's use of chemical weapons in 2013.

There is great doubt as to who used those Chemical weapons, it could have been Assad, it could have been the rebels, nobody knows?



"We don't behave like Russians. It's just a different standard," Kerry said.

Exactly who lied over Saddam having WMD's?...it was the US not Russia.

I think most of the problems have been caused by the US and West interference in the Middle East since the first Gulf War.

All Putin is doing is copying us. It is in Russia's interest to keep Assad in power.

None this is particularly edifying.


There are more Sunni Muslims in Syria than Shia so of course Kerry calls for democracy.

Assad knows this and won't allow it

My suggestion remains a permanent truce, to divide Syria. Seems to me the only practical option.

"They were invited in, we were not," he added, referring to Moscow's military operations in Syria.

Surprised Kerry repeated this, i remember when Putin said it and since then I cant see any point in the USA being there.

Very good point nailed on

USA are only their to get rid of assad.

The next World War will be like Space Invaders. Folk in Moscow and Pentagon pressing buttons. We`ll all be fried. Only survivor will be Charlton Heston.

They have forgotten what the existing arsenal of nuclear weapons can do. We - the immediate post-war generation - remembered the melted eyeballs, flayed bodies and rotting cancers of the 'lucky' ones of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (relatively 'harmless' bombs compared to current warheads). Many nutters with their fingers on the ever-increasing nuclear triggers have no concept of consequences.  Think Pakistan/India - only a matter of time.

Good post Bodil. You are spot on.

Ibrahima Sonko  • October 6, 2016 9:59 PM BST 
USA are only their to get rid of assad.

why?

Listen up, if we go to war remember to take a pack of smokes with you, no cash out on the battlefield lads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prTKdFX1gVM

Putin has today cancelled a visit to France and he has called on the families of all overseas Russian workers to return home

That sounds ominous !

yes icky says "the new world order"(the witch included) want a ww3 to reduced the population and then take over whats left,mmm we are not included

I thought the same TT I just pray things can be sorted because if Clinton gets in God help us.

good news.

at least brexit will be off.

Americans usually bully smaller natons, at least from the evidence of the past 30 or so years. Dont think they are ever gonna attack russia. If they do however, we know we have to send our soldiers as well.

Burton-Brewers  • October 12, 2016 5:30 PM BST 
I thought the same TT I just pray things can be sorted because if Clinton gets in God help us.

Agreement at last BB
...Yes I fear if Clinton gets in...1.19 at moment on here

Can't wait until Hilary gets in and sorts them out. The hacking stuff is massively over stepping the line. Hopefully more sanctions for their war crimes too.

The US would laugh at Russia in any military conflict.

Keep crushing them financially.

Russia's GDP is down to 2 trillion. The US controls world oil now. There isn't much Russia or the entire Middle East can do about anything other than go completely broke. Russia doesn't have the money for war and they aren't going to use nukes.

These are energy exporter nations that had their markets taken our from under them by US shale oil and global economics. The US now has 4 times more oil than Saudi Arabia and has matches their production, we can easily scale up from here also.

Putin is desperately trying to influence the US election because realistically Russia is too poor to do much else. He was a idiot to move into Ukarine and Syria. All that did it create a legit reason to sanction Russia, break up eastern oil markets and give the US the perfect opportunity to become a major oil exporter. We probably won't bother since selling oil cheap makes no sense :) only idiots would sell oil cheap and then create a shortage of it in their own nations.. only realize the world largest oil consumer happened to have the worlds largest oil reserves in shale. We got the lions share of cheap oil for any one nation AND then we realize through technology and geology that we have 1-4 trillion barrels of oil RIGHT here.

Beside need some minor job recovery the US is in the strongest position it has ever been due to these new reserves. We can ignore foreign oil entirely if we want OR we can flood the markets with oil and perhaps become the main supplier of Europe. We could even build a gas pipline there if we want. Russia was extremely foolish to give the US this opportunity right as the US went into full swing in hydro fracking output.

We both have more than enough nukes to destroy the world still, so their threats are nothing new. They are the ones who have no idea how to get their economy back and I'd say they are the US mercy when it comes to oil prices.  The US could supply Europe from one side, China from the other and Africa and South America. Russia does not have good access to the world. China will ultimately stay loyal to Europe and America because that's where the money  and technology is.

Russia needs to get rid of Putin and move on to a more level headed leader. Putin has run his course and it's time for fresh leadership. Their GDP at 2 trillion is below many nations we don't think of as world powers. For all that land Russia sure has always had a crap economy, it's too bad, they are a smart people with a huge landmass full of resources. War is the LAST thing they should want or need.

Like China and the Middle East the easy way to get your GDP up is to let American corporations come in and teach you how to properly exploit resources and build infrastructure.  They had plenty of time now to make some big moves since the fall of the USSR and they've done very little with a lot of potential. They've kept pace with US growth at a much lower scale of course, but they are in essence a developing nation and their growth should be several times higher than the US, like China's growth has been, but of course not that good.

I disagree with you entirely Hamsterdam

Russia or any country are not obligated to the United States?

I for one, do want a World dominated by the United States, I think they are obsessed by greed and sex.

Russia would do well to work with China.

You seem to have no idea what a Nuclear War would be like either Hamsterdam.

do not want a world dominated by the United States

Probably an important word to add bg!

Any suggestion that the USA has more arms than Russia is irrelevant as Putin is far more likely to take action than Obama could ever consider. Our troops would be trivial as any such war would swat us aside.Our MP's have to stop taking cheap pot shots against Russia for its support of Assad.

What a load of tosh Hamsterdam. Did you write that yourself or was that copied and pasted from a White House press release?

It's not just about oil. See what happens if Russia decides to cut off 40 % of Europe's Gas supply. Talk about China as an example? Russia and China are cosying up all the time and entering in to major energy deal while friction in the South Pacific between the US and China is escalating. In 5 years time China will be the new enemy.

LOL Russia and China? USA is tighter with the US than with Russia who are surplus to them. China just care about cash, same as the US. The South Pacific is a mute point yes, but they'll sort something out there.

Wouldn't want a world ran dominated by the US? So you would prefer more Russian influence? The US aren't perfect but I think I'll side with the land of the free on this one.

Without the threat of our US brothers, Russia could/would risk taking over Europe.

Be thankful and educate yourselves instead of watching anti US youtube videos.

You won't help EbulGery hamsterdam, however patiently you try.

LOL Russia and China? USA is tighter with the US than with Russia who are surplus to them. China just care about cash, same as the US. The South Pacific is a mute point yes, but they'll sort something out there.

Wouldn't want a world ran dominated by the US? So you would prefer more Russian influence? The US aren't perfect but I think I'll side with the land of the free on this one.

Without the threat of our US brothers, Russia could/would risk taking over Europe.

Be thankful and educate yourselves instead of watching anti US youtube videos.

USA is tighter with the USA than Russia . China care about cash like the US but they also care about their global influence and that is currently bringing them in to confrontation with the US because they want to control the South China Sea and consider any other country showing a military presence as a threat to them.

Russia would take over Europe on what basis? The fact that they don't want US Missiles on their border. Imagine what the US would do if Russia tried to put missiles in Mexico or Cuba (imagine that).

I've never watched an anti US youtube video, I like the US and I like Russia I'm just not naive enough to see one as good and one as evil because that's what my national media tells me what to think. I think they are doing the exact same thing as each other competing for geo political influence, undermining there opposites allies, protecting their own allies and trying to make their each other look like the bogie man through the media.

You are unfortunately one of the mugs who is naive enough to get completely hoodwinked by what the Govt. wants you to think.

Without the threat of our US brothers, Russia could/would risk taking over Europe.

No they would not. Communism fell in 1989, Russia are a democracy like ours.
If Russia attacks Europe the US would attack them, so they will not, they do not even want to?


I don't need help thank you Jed, I have my own opinions, you have yours!

Putin protects Russians, and Russian interests, that is all.

Ebul your views are often very agreeable and rational when you are not talking about women.

U.S. ARMY CHIEF THREATENS WAR WITH RUSSIA..
Another American war mongering nutter !
Any major conflict between these two Major Powers (America & Russia).....
will probably go Nuclear - then it's curtains for all of us.

Message for Burton Brewers - TGM cannot reply to you as his internet down he will contact when its up & running again

Shrewd_dude  • October 13, 2016 2:56 AM BST 
Ebul your views are often very agreeable and rational when you are not talking about women.

Probably true

Message for Burton Brewers - TGM cannot reply to you as his internet down he will contact when its up & running again

yes useless BT pumps, I have managed to speak to him this morning.

bt's network lags behind that of most if not all countries int he eu...well done.

This madness could escalate if USA President doesnt get a grip on his generals. The idiot MP suggesting we might enforce a no-fly zone and even shoot down Russian jets for backing the current regime should be sacked.

World War 3? Barack Obama Could Take A Major Step Toward War With Russia On Friday

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http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/world-war-3-barack-obama-could-take-a-major-step-toward-war-with-russia-on-friday

hope you've all got your prepping kits ready folks

sound like only few bombs and uk is gone  to give usa a warning the word from ussa was  it only a small island back in last year



hope it not worlds war 3
for god sake

one  bomb   in london  cardiff   and glaslow   we are   f    nu   ck    ed

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31049952



all testing and checking  all the time

A terrifying Russian television broadcast explicitly told civilians to find out where their nearest bomb shelter is and repeatedly asked viewers if they were ready for nuclear war.

One apocalyptic broadcast told viewers on Moscow's state-owned TV channel NTV: "If it should one day happen, every one of you should know where the nearest bomb shelter is. It’s best to find out now."

The Russian economy is f*cked because most of its income comes from oil and other "dig and sell" commodities, and the price has crashed. And because of economic sanctions following its annexation of Crimea from Ukraine. And because it is run by a bunch of (non-communist) mad Russian nationalists headed by Putin so they spend most of what little money they have on arms, and on annexing Crimea which led to ... see above.

On the other hand, if Putin can hang on long enough, commodity prices will recover and then it's game on for the Russkies.

Meanwhile Russia is resorting to the oldest trick of ramping up foreign threats to swing the population back behind the Kremlin. When NATO doesn't launch WW3, it will prove that Putin has saved the people. Fortunately Putin is actually sane so that despite all the bluster, there was not a great deal he could do when Turkey (Turkey!!) shot down a Russian plane.

Meanwhile Russia is resorting to the oldest trick of ramping up foreign threats to swing the population back behind the Kremlin.

It's certainly not only Russia that is in the habit of using that old trick.