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Aunty Post
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Please don't get this wrong as I am very deaf myself!

Without my false ears I am useless, but the question is... "Why do signers pull ridiculous faces, that are completely out of context with what they are signing"?
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Report TheChaser • September 27, 2016 1:52 PM BST
Face expressions make you look intelligent ( well they think it does )
Report kenny mann • September 27, 2016 10:24 PM BST
Is that where the saying deaf as a post came from?

Sorry, Aunty, coudn't resist. Wink
Report chrisblues • September 27, 2016 11:34 PM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2upAsFzO9AU


i am deaf too and  i sign all the time
Report chrisblues • September 27, 2016 11:46 PM BST
"Why do signers pull ridiculous faces

it  cos   they are born deaf   and becomes  normal signing 

while  old folks who  just gone deaf  and  cant sign Confused
Report Aunty Post • September 28, 2016 7:48 AM BST
Had to think about that kenny....Grin

I'm particularly talking about the ones that appear at the bottom of the screen, who are presumably signing from the dialogue,
which means they can't be deaf (unless they have autocue  of course)!
Report Aunty Post • September 28, 2016 8:03 AM BST
Very funny chris but, ee by gum cocker, I wor expecting them to sign in t'broad Yorkshire tha nors!
Report Joel • September 28, 2016 8:10 AM BST
Pardon?
Report screaming from beneaththewaves • September 28, 2016 5:47 PM BST
Signers pull faces completely IN context with what they're expressing. It's an integral part of signing. There's no grammar. The difference between a question and a statement often relies entirely on the facial expression. You might be confused by the way you don't necessarily have to sign in the same word order as the spoken statement being "translated".

When you speak normally, you not only move your lips, you also move your hands, point and pull faces. Signing is just the same, except the hand movements and expressions are more to the fore. But the lip movements are still there.

Have you seen the new Maltesers advert, where the two girls are signing an encounter with a big, stupid dog? "Big" involves not just moving the hands apart, but also puffing the cheeks. And when signing "I was round Theo's", she signs the letter "T" (index finger touching palm), then "house" (fingertips touching at an angle), but at the same time mouths the words "Theo's house", so she doesn't have to laboriously finger-spell T-H-E-O.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYIEAIogarI

They all work together. So if you want to make a deaf person's life easier, even if you know no sign language, try making your lips visible, miming absolutely anything that can be mimed, and pull faces and point.
Report Makybe_Diva • September 28, 2016 7:18 PM BST
Very good post, Screaming.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves • September 28, 2016 7:47 PM BST
Thanks, Diva.

Important not to think of signing as some inferior attempt at copying the spoken English language. It's a language in its own right, which would exist even if there were no such thing as speaking or hearing. You could argue that the girl in that Maltesers advert expresses how stupid that dog is better by hitting her palm with her fist and semi-rolling her eyes than a hearing person could by using the word "stupid". Mind you, the hearing person would probably still involuntarily roll their eyes at that point.
Report chrisblues • September 29, 2016 12:03 PM BST
i am Surprised the only deaf signing on here
Report Aunty Post • September 29, 2016 12:22 PM BST
Very good sfbtw!

I was expecting you to pop up, as we have talked before on our own hearing problems.
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