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By:
alleged22
When: 26 Sep 16 23:31
personally think we are entering a period of call my bluff between usa and Russia that could last a lifetime, decade at the least. another cold war?
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 26 Sep 16 23:38
Agree.

Think we are likely to see more and more tension in the South China Sea between China and USA in the near future as well which will no doubt turn in to similar proxy wars/regime change/humanitarian interventions as they compete for influence in the area.
By:
detraveller
When: 27 Sep 16 00:47
The americans and the europeans have milked the middle east as much as they wanted. They now have to intervene against China at some point and the South China Sea is as good an excuse as it can get. The americans lifted the weapons ban on Vietnam a few months ago and anyone could see why. Soon the neighboring countries will want to defend themselves and guess who will be ready to provide the weapons? The americans.

Plus the threat of Pakistan's strength is there. The army has nearly defeated the fighters in the afghan border(sponsored by India), the political party run through a british-pakistani terrorist is nearly finished and you can see the results with the recent threats of war from India. The americans have moved on from the middle east and the next stop for them is South East Asia. We in Europe will clean up their mess in the middle east like the good slaves we have been since half a century. We in Germany have recently sent 600 more soldiers to Syria. I am not aware if the brits have enough dumb people left to send over or the folks have become smarter. Im pretty sure their will always be people willing to defend their country by invading countries thousands of miles away!
By:
detraveller
When: 27 Sep 16 00:50

Sep 26, 2016 -- 7:18PM, ebulGery wrote:


I agree with the last few postsI think the West and particularly America has done great harm to the Middle East.The never ending killing is still going on in Syria, we have completely destabilised the whole region.Why? They were no threat to us. The Arabs are not like us, they were happy as they were.I know why it was done and it was evil.America has to learn respect for other countries, not everybody wants to be like them.Because Europe unwisely backed America in this, we are paying a price, terrorism and the risk of terrorism,and a breakdown of relations with Muslims in our own societies, we had no trouble with them before.


I have never understood the brainless idiots who whine about the muslims in Europe. If we can send our military to their countries surely they have the right to send unarmed men to ours? America dropped 23000+ bombs on muslim countries last year. Yet a man who kills some americans in america is a terrorist. Have never understood the logic.

By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 27 Sep 16 10:05
exactly.

the west's actions have caused blood on our own doorstep.

no one will be held accountable.
By:
treetop
When: 27 Sep 16 10:29
The West has to bear a large chunk of responsibility for Syria,deliberately destabilising Assad to please the Saudis,why should anyone be suprised that Russia has backed Assad ?
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 29 Sep 16 20:13
I suppose this is the west's fault

A Syrian “refugee” is in court after molesting a woman and attacking a police officer at this year’s Notting Hill Carnival — crimes committed only shortly after arriving in the United Kingdom.
Westminster Magistrate’s court heard how 23-year-old Mohammed Al-Youssfi — a freshly arrived immigrant claiming to be a refugee — committed an alleged sex assault against a reveller at the annual carnival, and headbutted the arresting officer.

The prosecutor told the court a group of three women — including one carrying a baby — were stalked by the Syrian male as they walked away from the carnival. When they stood aside to let him pass them by on the street, he grabbed one of the women.
By:
mobo
When: 29 Sep 16 20:50
How dare these women parade around uncovered. They were asking for it.
By:
treetop
When: 29 Sep 16 21:01
I am not blaming the 'west' for individual acts of crimes b-b but we have caused a lot of the instability by trying to destabilise Assad and we do have to draw that distinction.
By:
ebulGery
When: 29 Sep 16 21:10
I fully agree Treetop.

If we do not want Syrian refugees here, then we need peace in Syria, somehow?????????
By:
ebulGery
When: 29 Sep 16 21:33
One must realise that these Syrians have never seen a woman in their lives. except she is fully clothed in black.
When they see our women, how they dress, they think they are prostitutesShocked, they are not of course.

It is why it would be so much better if people kept to their own countries, where they know the rules.

It is the West's interference in the Middle East which has caused all this, we should have left people like Saddam, Gadhafi and Assad
in place.

just my own opinion.
By:
ebulGery
When: 29 Sep 16 22:07
I am not justifying what this Syrian did.....he was in the wrong, in our society he must abide by our rules

It is just when people are brought up in different societies with different values it can cause problems.

Our sense of right and wrong, our values, have all been programmed in each of us since birth.

If it is different one sees the problem
By:
lfc1971
When: 30 Sep 16 10:19
There is nothing difficult in this. We do not want to be involved in Syria. Leave it to themselves,
they hate the west in any event.
Would they attack and try to destroy us given the chance..yes imo.

Should anyone from the middle east be allowed into Europe, the answer is obvious, no. there are many muslim countries that can take every refugee as is necessary.
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 30 Sep 16 14:07
but it is democracy.

we voted them in so they can do what they want....

oh and thats low by right wing nutters comparing a syrian at the notting hill carnival...when you consider how many have been killed in the conflict.

not a surprise though
By:
lfc1971
When: 30 Sep 16 14:10
^ can`t make any sense out of that.
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 30 Sep 16 14:17
we voted the government in.
its their choice if they want to get involved.

as we voted for them it falls under democracy.

hope this makes sense Crazy
By:
lfc1971
When: 30 Sep 16 14:23
i was giving the solution as i saw it, not how our governments see it and not as you see it.
now how many agree or disagree, no idea. Merkel did not ask anyone else when she allowed millions into Europe.
i think that was a mistake, that is what i was saying, just my opinion.
hope that makes sense.
By:
dustybin
When: 30 Sep 16 14:55
Im starting to wonder if americ'a bombing of the syrian military was intentional.
The rebels are joining forces, that means the more moderate ones that have been armed by the west joining the ones that make the west uncomfortable and have no control over.

The agreement between russia and america was to go after the ones the west dont like, but the CIA probably got wind of what they were intending to do and so broke the ceasefire by attacking syrian forces and then made a big deal about russia retaliating.

I cant see a logical way out of this other than to say anyone....thats anyone irrespective of who they are or what they believe they are fighting for, is wrong to fire on anyone else.
It could be conceivable that all parties are therefore wrong and should be admonished and publicly shamed.
By:
dustybin
When: 30 Sep 16 14:59
...but thats no good either is it because that will bolster the rebel alliance (like star wars ffs)
Because the rebels wont stop now
By:
Hamsterdam
When: 30 Sep 16 19:29
Im starting to wonder if americ'a bombing of the syrian military was intentional

May have or have not been, they did stop when Russia told them they were Asssad's soldiers.

But killing soldiers isn't a war crime. Bombing aid trucks and using bunker bombs on civilian targets is, not not mention bringing down passenger planes in Ukraine.
By:
dustybin
When: 30 Sep 16 19:43
Its not a war crime but it was a supposed ceasefire.
Im just thinking they could have done it to encourage russia to retaliate and bring an end to the ceasefire.
Afterall they were supposedly timing the ceasefire and a successful one was going to mean and agreement in combined attacks.
But if the CIA had wind that the rebels were going to be all one then america couldnt have joined russia in bombing the rebels they support.
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