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WTHF?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/sep/18/manhattan-explosion-several-injured-in-blast-rolling-report
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Report Ramruma • September 18, 2016 6:58 AM BST
He probably means no link to Islamist terrorists (or to the other bomb in New Jersey) -- it could be a homegrown nutter, as a lot of these American bombings turn out to be. He also means no evidence *yet*, as it looks like there should be cctv coverage of the device being planted.
Report johnn • September 18, 2016 7:53 AM BST
It could be a Fray Bentos steak and kidney pie incident. A long time ago when I was a callow youth I came in from the pub and followed the instructions but after 40 minutes it exploded in the oven. To be fair, the instructions didn't say you should take the lid off before putting it in.
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • September 18, 2016 10:05 AM BST
Will be very disappointed if it transpires these vermin aren't Muslims.
Report Ron-Russian • September 18, 2016 11:11 AM BST
A Bomb went off / it was intentional / but it wasn't terrorism Crazy

#NormalBullSh1t
Report Ron-Russian • September 18, 2016 11:24 AM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZCzHYMEIeo
Report mobo • September 18, 2016 11:41 AM BST
But why would they come straight out and say there are no indication of terroriste motive?  Shouldn't they be saying 'we don't know why this was done or we have no links as yet'  Instead of saying the opposite.
Report mobo • September 18, 2016 11:43 AM BST
Of course it may not be linked to a terror group.  But it is the same system as used at Boston.  Could be a disaffected Democrat!!!
Report Ibrahima Sonko • September 18, 2016 11:45 AM BST
the BBC headline sickens me, rewriting the English language; 'New York City: At least 29 wounded in 'intentional' explosion'
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • September 18, 2016 11:48 AM BST
Quickly googled and almost identical headlines on ITN and Sky News.

Lets single out the BBC though.
Report The Leopard • September 18, 2016 12:29 PM BST
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https://twitter.com/sadiqkhan?lang=en-gb
Report Make my hay • September 18, 2016 12:55 PM BST
I bet Trump will go visiting, whilst Hilary will be found at another 'celebrity has been' fundraiser in her honour. Just where does all the money go?
Report Ron-Russian • September 18, 2016 1:56 PM BST
Gas has been ruled out as the cause,

This has left Police hunting for answers on what caused the explosion!
They really have hit a brick wall on this one.

whatever could have caused it Confused
Report akabula • September 18, 2016 2:00 PM BST
It's a mystery Ron. Not even the CCDA can solve it.
Report Ron-Russian • September 18, 2016 2:23 PM BST
Liked this tweet earlier..

Paul Joseph Watson Retweeted
Anthony Weiner ‏@AnthonyVVeiner  8h8 hours ago
Muslims could literally invade @CNN studios and behead a dozen people on live TV and we'd still be lectured about jumping to conclusions.
Report guinness2dear • September 18, 2016 2:51 PM BST
Top twatter tweet
Report Ron-Russian • September 18, 2016 2:58 PM BST
The Truth About the New York Bombing

Paul Joseph Watson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tm9XMrio98
Report Ibrahima Sonko • September 18, 2016 3:00 PM BST
Im confused, how can it not be a terrorist act ?

Even if it is was done by some redneck honkey it is still an act of terrorism.
Report guinness2dear • September 18, 2016 3:01 PM BST
Correctamundo
Report guinness2dear • September 18, 2016 3:02 PM BST
It took long enough but a mars bar on it's way to IS?
Report Hamsterdam • September 18, 2016 3:14 PM BST
noun: terrorism
the unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.
"the fight against terrorism"
Report Hamsterdam • September 18, 2016 3:14 PM BST
If the motive isn't political it's not terrorism.
Report mobo • September 18, 2016 3:16 PM BST
It most certainly isn't terrorism.  Even though its a device/s similar to that used in Boston.  cough! cough!
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! • September 18, 2016 3:19 PM BST
BOOM

Wink
Report Ibrahima Sonko • September 18, 2016 3:33 PM BST
Terrorism is, in its broadest sense, the use or threatened use of violence (terror) in order to achieve a political, religious, or ideological aim.
Report fool proof • September 18, 2016 3:45 PM BST
Mayor now says it was a terror attack.
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • September 18, 2016 3:49 PM BST
BBC site says act of terrorism too. Sky still says 'intentional' blast. Makes me sick!
Report Ron-Russian • September 18, 2016 3:53 PM BST
BBC
A bomb that exploded in New York City was an act of terrorism, Governor Andrew Cuomo says, but no link to international groups has been found.

i wonder how they'd price this up Confused still hard to work out who'd do
something like this.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • September 18, 2016 3:54 PM BST
You would have to be pretty sick to read a skynews website imo.
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • September 18, 2016 4:00 PM BST
Agreed Ibra. I only looked today because of your usual anti-Beeb comment. I also noticed that Reuters, Al Jazeera & CBS had almost the same headline.

Sickening.
Report Make my hay • September 18, 2016 4:05 PM BST
I'm glad it's terrorism rather than an 'intentional act' as this will mean Trump has an even better chance of winning a shedload of money for me.Happy
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • September 18, 2016 4:09 PM BST
Indeed MMH. Here's hoping they carry ouf some more atrocities for ya.
Report Make my hay • September 18, 2016 4:14 PM BST
Don't get me wrong MDH I don't want any more atrocities, I hate atrocities, I'm just saying if there were to be anymore it would be better if they were terror rather than an intentional.
Report Injera • September 18, 2016 4:37 PM BST
I doubt it was Islamic. They want to die. Rarely plant a bomb and escape. It's all about the martydom (as they perceive it..)
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • September 18, 2016 4:40 PM BST
It was similar to Boston though, as others have suggested, and they got away, at least initially.

Plenty of crazy folk out there though, and they're not all ragheads.
Report Injera • September 18, 2016 5:15 PM BST
Agreed.

Lots of anger out there.
Report moisok • September 18, 2016 6:43 PM BST
bbc going flat out with denial - even the correspondent using the PR style open hands(pushing away) saying don't jump to conclusions.  The same hand actions taught to Chemical Smith
Report Ron-Russian • September 18, 2016 8:22 PM BST
BBC
New York bombing motivation 'unknown'


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37402130

Paul Joseph Watson ‏@PrisonPlanet  5m5 minutes ago
Note found with pressure cooker bomb partly written in Arabic.
#NothingToDoWithIslam.
Report PorcupineorPineapple • September 18, 2016 8:50 PM BST
has anyone said it's definitely not ISIS or similar?
Report guinness2dear • September 18, 2016 9:39 PM BST
I've oft wondered why the west is píss afraid of mussies in general. Used to think it was all about oil - money - arms etc, but maybe i was going down the wrong cavern. Maybe it's deeper..

http://www.weaselzippers.us/295662-gitmo-prisoner-says-saudi-royal-involved-in-terrorism/
Report Ron-Russian • September 18, 2016 9:47 PM BST
It's pretty obvious it won't end until they bend over for them that much
that they eventually take control - We're being led by gutless traitors

One in four French Muslims want an ultra-conservative form of Islam adopted which forces women to wear face veils, study finds


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3795300/One-four-French-Muslims-want-ultra-conservative-form-Islam-adopted-forces-women-wear-face-veils-study-finds.html
Report mobo • September 19, 2016 1:07 PM BST
WHY have they tried to make out firstly that it wasn't a bomb!?

Now they admit it they are now using the word NATURALISED for the guy from afghanistan.  hehe  I love it. Note left in arabic - but nothing to do with islam (how the fk do they know?)
At every turn they either deny or try to water down the evidence
Report alun2005 • September 19, 2016 2:01 PM BST
The FBI have identified a 28 year old man they would like to interview in connection with a number of incidents, including the bomb that exploded in the Chelsea district.

He's an, erm, American citizen apparently (i.e. he's from Afghanistan) but his name isn't Chuck Irving Rockefeller. 

I'm sure this is a big silly old misunderstanding and there will be a simple innocent explanation for these multiple bombs being found in the neighbouring states of New York and New Jersey. 

Perish the thought that this has anything to do with Terrorism, International Terrorism, Galactical Terrorism, and one hardly needs add that it is nothing to do with any Peaceful Religions.

Hope all that's cleared up.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/19/new-york-bombing-fbi-names-28-year-old-suspect-as-authorities-pr/
Report 1st time poster • September 19, 2016 2:09 PM BST
they were all playing footsie hoping in their minds that trump would wade in feet 1st and drop himself in it whilst clinton played a safe pair of hands,it turns out trump was right and clinton like obamma look weak
Report Make my hay • September 19, 2016 3:12 PM BST
The Truth About The NYC/NJ Terror Attacks - Stefan Molyneux

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk3K9UItG1Q
Report alun2005 • September 19, 2016 5:32 PM BST
The 'suspect' who isn't a Domestic/International/Galactical terrorist is now under arrest and in custody after a shoot-out with police in New Jersey.

I can't wait to see what the 'defence' will be, although I'm guessing it will turn out to have just been a 'protest' about a reduction in rubbish bin/recycling box collections in the NY/NJ states.

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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/suspect-held-over-york-bomb-attacks-shootout-152400032.html
Report fool proof • September 19, 2016 6:29 PM BST
The looney left can't see whats right in front of them,Too busy putting lifejackets in parliment square.Must be about time for another hashtag.
Report mobo • September 19, 2016 6:32 PM BST
shouldn't they be put on the coast of turkey or libyia as a warning of the dangers!!??
Report fool proof • September 19, 2016 6:36 PM BST
No need all the "refugees" have to do is paddle in to the sea and there will be a navy ship picking them up in jig time.
Report treetop • September 19, 2016 6:51 PM BST
Yet another boost for the Trump campaign.
Report casemoney • September 19, 2016 7:03 PM BST
New York bombings suspect Ahmad Khan Rahami is in custody after shooting a police officer in Linden, New Jersey, according to US media.

Looks like he has had the Bollix Shot off Laugh
Report mobo • September 19, 2016 7:09 PM BST
Now they are admitting it has international links and is a refugee!!!
Report fool proof • September 19, 2016 7:14 PM BST
Ahmad Khan Rahami: US blasts suspect a 'very friendly guy'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37410115

Maybe the nsasty cops have shot the wrong guy.
Report mobo • September 19, 2016 7:18 PM BST
I knew it.  IT WAS THEIR FAULT!!  Well done the bbc - shame on the cops and trump.  I hope they/he sues the erse off the authorities. 
Will he do a guardian sponsored tour of the UK.
Where are black lives matter when you need them.
Report Ron-Russian • September 19, 2016 7:25 PM BST
apparently he has previous, having being charged for trying to kill his sister
Report Burton-Brewers • September 19, 2016 7:38 PM BST
On a trip to New York City, London’s Muslim Mayor Sadiq Khan has said terror attacks are “part and parcel” of urban life, just hours after an Islamic terrorist bombed the city. Mr. Khan also seized the opportunity to launch an explicit attack on the Brexit vote and rise of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump. He compared to two movements, claiming they are both driven by “scapegoating”.
The London Mayor joked that he “shouldn’t really get involved in the American elections”, but added: “I hope the best candidate wins – I’m sure she will”, repeating his endorsement of Hillary Clinton which he first made in Chicago last week.
Report Injera • September 19, 2016 7:49 PM BST
WAC.
Report Ron-Russian • September 19, 2016 7:51 PM BST
It's totally embarrassing thinking the yanks think sadiq khan represents British
people, the only people he represents are his own barbaric kind.
Report Injera • September 19, 2016 7:54 PM BST
The odious Khan is so ignorant he can't see that Clinton has presided over the deaths of thousands of Muslims from Afghan to Libya and all stations in between.

You can't make this stuff up.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • September 19, 2016 8:02 PM BST
Part & parcel of urban life Angry WAC
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • September 19, 2016 8:25 PM BST
It was Republicans who began presiding over the deaths of thousands of Muslims, Injera. Let's not pretend it would have been any different had they been running the show for the last 8 years.
Report Injera • September 19, 2016 9:07 PM BST
Agreed. But why do the 'left' have a love affair with the murderous Clinton? Whilst Trump has yet to wage any war, Clinton has openly supported 3 at the latest count. The result? IS.

We should remember that here, both Nick Griffin and Farage opposed the war in Iraq. The irony is incredible!
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • September 19, 2016 9:14 PM BST
I dont think the left do have a love affair with Clinton. I think most lefties were rooting for Obama to beat her for the Democrat nomination, for example, and were cheering for Bernie this time around.

Faced with a choice between Hillary and the Donald, though, is anyone surprised the left is supporting Clinton, even if they don't like her either?
Report Injera • September 19, 2016 9:18 PM BST
The menu is a bit sparse I grant you.

Reminds me of this!Laugh

https://youtu.be/4NVMJ24CBzQ

Ronnie Barker serving up a complete rook...and the name of restaurant means just that in all aspects.
Report alun2005 • September 20, 2016 5:19 PM BST
The arrested suspect has now been charged with five counts of Attempted Murder. This seems like a pertinent moment to assess what we've learned about the suspect from UK media sources :

1. He's a lovely lad.

2. He's an All-American, Born on the 4th of July, genu-wine Yankee-Doodle-Dandy, as wholesome as Mom's Apple Pie.

3. He's so Americanised he's quite possibly a Golden Gloves first baseman in-the-making for the New York Yankees.

4. He can't possibly be a terrorist and America needs thousands more just like him.

5. Apparently it's all Donald Trump's fault.

Any more news just in about this shining textbook example of immigration and integration?
Report guinness2dear • September 20, 2016 5:26 PM BST
Yep, his Pakistani mrs born in 400AD has phucked off to her homeland (no doubt with plenty of Hershey’s in her belly warmers) rather conveniently on the day of the bombs..
Report alun2005 • September 20, 2016 5:32 PM BST
Yep, his Pakistani mrs born in 400AD has phucked off to her homeland (no doubt with plenty of Hershey’s in her belly warmers) rather conveniently on the day of the bombs..

I reckon that's no more than an unfortunate coincidence myself. Someone's probably misinformed her that The Partridge Family were doing a comeback tour, and starting in Islamabad, as you would expect.
Report guinness2dear • September 20, 2016 6:27 PM BST
Let's hope they write the songs and cherish the trip...
Report mobo • September 20, 2016 6:34 PM BST
THE FAMILY KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT!!

I see he has a record of violence - and so the picture develops and  emerges.

Has anyone thought that so many of them who are, sadly, mentally ill, but are grade A footballers, that Spurs etc could really get a few bargains.,
They would fit in amazingly well with the behaviour we regularly see in the premiership these days.
Report mobo • September 20, 2016 6:39 PM BST
Now I read that the authorities knew about him and  his father had reported him to the authorities(whatever they are). 

The guardian is leading with 'they will hate us anyway' etc -'backlash'  'increase in hate crimes'  etc etc.

So where does the terrorism come from then?   The KKK   or is it trump supporters?
Report Ibrahima Sonko • September 20, 2016 7:45 PM BST
Mohammed Rahami, father of Ahmad Khan Rahami, who is suspected of planting bombs in New York and New Jersey, alerted police of his son in 2014 after Ahmad had stabbed another of his sons amid an argument, the New York Times reported.

Mohammed Rahami told NYT that he spoke with FBI agents about the stabbing, noting that he had concerns about Ahmad, which led to a review by the agency, according to federal officials. The FBI opened an assessment of Ahmad Rahami, leading to an interview with Mohammed Rahami, who then recanted concerns over his son's potential for violence.

An anonymous official told NYT that the elder Rahami made the comments about his son to the FBI out of anger.

"Two years ago I go to the FBI because my son was doing really bad, OK?" Mohammed Rahami said, according to NYT. "But they check almost two months, they say, 'He’s OK, he’s clean, he’s not a terrorist.' I say OK."

"Now they say he is a terrorist," he added. "I say OK."


Looks like another who slipped the net or they let out.
Report Ron-Russian • September 20, 2016 7:59 PM BST
They only look at them as a serious threat when they try to blow a few
hundred decent human beings up
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • September 20, 2016 8:08 PM BST
I was sympathetic until I read he was a future 1B for the Yankees. Hang the cùnt!
Report saddo • September 20, 2016 9:03 PM BST
mobo, lol at the Guardian, difficult to believe that "educated" people pay good money for a propaganda sheet.
Report mobo • September 20, 2016 9:07 PM BST
What happened to the radical manchester sheet?  Have you seen the makeup of their board.  Once you see that you can see why they go in the direction they go in.  It has become an establishment rag.  Sad really.
Report saddo • September 20, 2016 9:11 PM BST
Their readership will parrot anything they read, and call anyone with a different view abusive names. Nothing worse than intolerant people preaching tolerance.
Report Burton-Brewers • September 20, 2016 9:19 PM BST
people aren't paying decent money though saddo, I read they are 4 mill in debt and the print version is close to folding. Still I'm sure the BBC will take them on.
Report alun2005 • September 21, 2016 5:05 PM BST
So much for this 'lovely lad' bombing suspect who, according to the UK liberal media, was virtually a dyed-in-the-wool nephew of Uncle Sam, probably owning a large collection of Doris Day records and with the Stars and Stripes flag hanging out of each window of his home.

The narrative they try to foist on the public once again falls apart at the seams, the very moment that some light is shone on his background.

Has this ever happened before please?

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/wealth-clues-led-quick-arrest-suspected-bomber-055413195.html
Report treetop • September 21, 2016 7:08 PM BST
I am sure that the Guardian has an Offsore Trust ( The ScottTrust) that helps them retain much of their income whilst abusing others for doing the same bb.
Report Injera • September 21, 2016 7:13 PM BST
Also nothing to do with Islam...

A boat captain from Cameroon murdered six passengers crossing from Morocco to Spain because they were Christian, prosecutors claim.

The Muslim man, identified in court documents as Alain N. B, blamed the Christians for rough seas, 29 survivors testified.

He forced six men off the  boat, sending them to certain death, it is claimed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3799681/Muslim-migrant-boat-captain-threw-six-Christians-deaths-vessel-religion-goes-trial-murder.html

Hate crime? Of course not. Terrorism? Nope. Under reported elsewhere? NAP.
Report guinness2dear • September 21, 2016 10:35 PM BST
Wondered where Alain Charnier had gotten to..
Report treetop • September 22, 2016 7:34 PM BST
If a christian sailor had done that injera we would have been inundated by the BBC analysing the disgraceful behaviour of a man charged with the safety of so many vulnerable refugees.
Report Injera • September 22, 2016 7:37 PM BST
tree - it would be on the news for days. It would reinforce the islamphobic narrative.

Instead it's disappeared from the news altogether.

Sad
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