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By:
Charlie
When: 12 Sep 16 21:07
DSytle
How could you!
Luskin is a scientific illiterate who doesn’t actually understand anything remotely biological, from genetics to embryology to molecular biology to, now, paleontology. Actually, this isn’t the first time Luskin has tripped over himself in a rush to deny — he also didn’t like Tiktaalik. So this is just more of the same.. Myers.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 12 Sep 16 21:19
Looking at Richard Dawkins on youtube - He's pro Alien

but Anti God. Fascinating.

does he believe in crop circles and chocolate pot aliens.
By:
DStyle
When: 12 Sep 16 21:20
You want to pick a hole in the God Delusion - chapters on the anthropic principle
Hitchens admitted the biggest problem when defending atheism - anthropic principle.
Fred Hoyle - anthropic principle - that's just for nucleosynthesis ffs.

I don't dream of holding a candle to these gentlemen, but I read papers on abiogenesis and I'm awestruck by the how such a seemingly rudimentary set of constants could lead to this. again the anthropic principle.

If there is one place your creator is hiding, it's here.

But as i said earlier, this creator is probably most likely just running a simulation on a supercomputer.
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Sep 16 21:25
I think we could do with some Horizon programs on this myself.
They are pop science but that is all some of us can understand.

We must encourage people to think, Science has given us a physically comfortable World
and can give us more. Not that that is everything, I think we can become too greedy myself,
But the pursuit of knowledge, the pursuit of truth is a good thing

Surely there is a desire in people just to know?

Not about evolution, but I was impressed by the proposed scheme to send a spacecraft weighing  1 gramShocked to the Proxima Centauri
star system, to investigate a planet Proxima b, it could be earth like?

We will probably send a fleet of them, they will use a solar sail, lasers will propel them to 1/4 the speed of light.
They could reach it in 20 years, 4 years for the signal to get back.

They reckon it cost £10 billion dollars, but I hope we do it. Although I doubt I will still be alive.

But as i said earlier, this creator is probably most likely just running a simulation on a supercomputer.
that could be, would explain a lot dstyle. But we make be able to work it out?
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Sep 16 21:30
abiogenesis
the original evolution of life or living organisms from inorganic or inanimate substances.
"to construct any convincing theory of abiogenesis, we must take into account the condition of the Earth about 4 billion years ago"

Scientists speculate that life may have arisen as a result of random chemical processes happening to produce self-replicating molecules.?

Under attack from creationists, Zorro most of allLaugh
By:
DStyle
When: 12 Sep 16 21:32
not only does the simulation argument deal neatly put to bed the anthropic principle, it also explains all sorts of funny things about the effect of observation in quantum mechanics.

it makes perfect programmatic sense to only render and resolve structure when it's needed, i.e. observed.
By:
DStyle
When: 12 Sep 16 21:32
not only does the simulation argument deal neatly put to bed the anthropic principle, it also explains all sorts of funny things about the effect of observation in quantum mechanics.

it makes perfect programmatic sense to only render and resolve structure when it's needed, i.e. observed.
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Sep 16 21:33
it makes perfect programmatic sense to only render and resolve structure when it's needed, i.e. observed.

SNAP!...that occurred to me Dstyle
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 12 Sep 16 21:34
i am living in a material world, and i am a material girl...

yet i cannot see the sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth,
eleventh and twelth  dimensions that scientist's tell us exist?

i see a fraction of the visible spectrum.

Einstein said we know less than one percent of everything?
I think Richard Dawkins thinks he knows it all though.


Please do not mix modern space craft technology to Darwinism? unless they are sending his carcass into space. It's spurious re-enforcement. They sent a bible up in Apollo 11?
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Sep 16 21:37
Please do not mix modern space craft technology to Darwinism?

They are mixed Zorro. We are looking for life. Why do we investigate Mars, it may have had liquid water at some time,
we want to see if we can find any evidence of life
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Sep 16 21:37
How do we life started on Earth?
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Sep 16 21:38
know
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 12 Sep 16 21:48
1918 - Balfour declaration - Britain accepts there should be a Jewish state.
1948 - Israeli nation re-established
1967 - Jerusalem recaptured after a war - previously not in Jewish state.
2016 - the Sanhedrin reformed (#good caiaphas. the council waits for you# )
the Sanhedrin has appointed a high priest to offer sacrifices in a third temple?
first Sanhedrin since 70AD when the second temple was destroyed. Wow - that's nearly 2000 years  - so what else might show up after 2000 years?

I was waiting for something to happen in Israel this year - seems weak? every 49 years is a jubilee year in the Jewish religion. 1918.1967.2016.
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Sep 16 21:49
I doubt the Palestinians Arabs share your enthusiasm ZorroSad
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 12 Sep 16 21:51
the year of jubilee. it is the final time of the shemitah which ends on October 2-4
By:
Charlie
When: 12 Sep 16 21:53
Especially for you Zorro it's only 20 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1Q43OHVK10
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 12 Sep 16 21:54
Palestinians suck air - Everybody dies with evolution. everybody. even the Palestinians.

you can live to 150 but you die.

Jesus redeems those that want to be with God.

God isn't asking for anything but his due. As the creator.

ignoring him isn't a pass.
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Sep 16 21:55
zorrostrikes  • September 12, 2016 9:54 PM BST 
Palestinians suck air - Everybody dies with evolution. everybody. even the Palestinians.
Sad
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 12 Sep 16 21:56
hey Charlie - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 12 Sep 16 21:58
nobody gets saved with evolution? the star goes nova and not a trace lives on. Then all the surrounding stars too?
By:
Gallivanter
When: 12 Sep 16 22:01
ebulGery, if water (or ice) is found on Mars, would that be evidence that life once existed there? If so, how did that life come into being?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 12 Sep 16 22:09
Charlie -

BTK strangler is not a christian, he is deranged.

listing off faults of men linked to christianity is spurious

there's some good people too, Mother Teresa.

Christ says you do not get to heaven because you live a good life,
it's not a points card you fill in.

Religious christians have done bloody murder in christ's name.

Christ said - live by the sword die by the sword.
George Bush enlisted Christ in his attack on the arab world.
he never turned the other cheek...
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Sep 16 22:09
We would still have the abiogenesis problem Gallivanter, I agree, but it may help solve that
By:
Gallivanter
When: 12 Sep 16 22:10
ebulGery 12 Sep 16 21:30 

Scientists speculate that life may have arisen as a result of random chemical processes happening to produce self-replicating molecules.?

Under attack from creationists,


Surely it's not just under attack from Creationists? It's too vague to be taken seriously by anyone.
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Sep 16 22:12
Then we are back to square one Gallivanter.

We need someone with ideas in this area.
By:
Gallivanter
When: 12 Sep 16 22:12
ebulGery 12 Sep 16 22:09 
We would still have the abiogenesis problem Gallivanter, I agree, but it may help solve that


In what way?
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Sep 16 22:13
I have no idea, but it may help, who knows?
By:
Gallivanter
When: 12 Sep 16 22:15
ebulGery 12 Sep 16 22:12 
Then we are back to square one Gallivanter.

We need someone with ideas in this area.


You won't find one on here, EG. I know. I've looked! Happy
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 12 Sep 16 22:16
if it ain't real -  if i can't feel it it's not real...

where's the proof of intangible things...

12 dimensions?
exotic particles that vanish in a millionth of a micro second?
other universes?
Aliens? a lot of Darwinists like aliens - Richard Dawkins a big alien fan.
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Sep 16 22:17
Christ says you do not get to heaven because you live a good life,
it's not a points card you fill in.


That is disappointing Zorro, I think doing genuine good things is the best bit about Christianity

Socrates a bit before Christ, believed we should do good to benefit our immortal soul. I like that as well
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Sep 16 22:18
You won't find one on here, EG. I know. I've looked! Happy Sad
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 12 Sep 16 22:18
the man entertains thoughts of Aliens... But not God, coz that's ridiculous.
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Sep 16 22:22
where's the proof of intangible things...

Sometimes we have to find the theory before the proof. Einstein had no proof for his theories,

but they have been confirmed since. The technology was not there at the time Zorro.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 12 Sep 16 22:25
DNA evidence is pointing away from Darwin?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 12 Sep 16 22:26
Maths points away from Darwin. too. 1+1
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Sep 16 22:41
An interesting debate

I don't take anything personal ZorroHappy
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 12 Sep 16 22:45
i'm armed to the teeth.... Its so personal.... Excited

launching missiles at your location, revealed by IP analyzer as I type.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 12 Sep 16 22:49
tracking down one godless darwinist at a time?

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By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Sep 16 23:11
Shocked
Laugh
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 13 Sep 16 02:17
i might be wrong? take a look... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHAc3_MEjgQ
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