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Dianne Anderson
wales, United Kingdom
14 AUG 2016 — — All UK meat is traceable back to source by a 4 digit EU code which must be displayed on all packaged meat. Large supermarket chains are allegedly getting away with saying that they don't sell halal by saying - 'it can't be halal, because it's been transported with pork (meaning: and therefore contaminated)... But how was that animal killed for that meat?
If the meat code leads back to a halal slaughterhouse then that meat being transported (with the pork) is very likely to be the meat rejected by the inspector in the slaughterhouse often post slaughter as 'unfit for Muslim consumption' - this is known as 'Haram'.
The Haram meat is then (allegedly) sold off cheaply to the large supermarket and restaurant chains. So this is a by product of halal slaughter - the reject meat, but the animal has still been slaughtered by the halal method.
But - if you are concerned about the meat you buy, there is a brilliant new APP from UK APP called 'Where's this from'. It can't tell you if the meat is halal, but it can tell you what slaughterhouse it has come from. You then search that slaughterhouse name on google and find out if it's halal or not.
Unfortunately, as far as ready meals etc. go, there is no way if knowing if your supermarket have used rejected halal meat.
I'm still in the early stages of investigating this further and will keep you updated.
wales, United Kingdom
14 AUG 2016 — — All UK meat is traceable back to source by a 4 digit EU code which must be displayed on all packaged meat. Large supermarket chains are allegedly getting away with saying that they don't sell halal by saying - 'it can't be halal, because it's been transported with pork (meaning: and therefore contaminated)... But how was that animal killed for that meat?
If the meat code leads back to a halal slaughterhouse then that meat being transported (with the pork) is very likely to be the meat rejected by the inspector in the slaughterhouse often post slaughter as 'unfit for Muslim consumption' - this is known as 'Haram'.
The Haram meat is then (allegedly) sold off cheaply to the large supermarket and restaurant chains. So this is a by product of halal slaughter - the reject meat, but the animal has still been slaughtered by the halal method.
But - if you are concerned about the meat you buy, there is a brilliant new APP from UK APP called 'Where's this from'. It can't tell you if the meat is halal, but it can tell you what slaughterhouse it has come from. You then search that slaughterhouse name on google and find out if it's halal or not.
Unfortunately, as far as ready meals etc. go, there is no way if knowing if your supermarket have used rejected halal meat.
I'm still in the early stages of investigating this further and will keep you updated.
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Apparently the app takes some finding, but here it is.
www.wheresthisfrom.com/projects/get-the-app/
www.wheresthisfrom.com/projects/get-the-app/
I know mine is slaughtered at my butchers by non halal methods, he also writes on a board which farm has provided the beef, pork and lamb and it is always within a 15 mile radius of the shop.
Good man BB. Will have had a decent life too, more thsn likely.
halal shmamal.
the only thing that matters is whether it was prestunned or not. and even before that the general welfare of the animal while it's still alive is probably the most important ethically decision.
90% of halal meat IS prestunned. I think the figure is closer to 0% for kosher. But we don't seem to worry about that for some reason.
Having worked on farms during school holidays many moons ago, I'd be more concerned about the life an animal leads while it's alive than the specifics of the moment of death. Having seen poultry killed conventionally, and halal without the prestunning, there's not much difference in the distress the animal displays.
I'd take a humane happy open existence with a non prestunned death over a **** battery farm with a prestunned death every day of the week.
the only thing that matters is whether it was prestunned or not. and even before that the general welfare of the animal while it's still alive is probably the most important ethically decision.
90% of halal meat IS prestunned. I think the figure is closer to 0% for kosher. But we don't seem to worry about that for some reason.
Having worked on farms during school holidays many moons ago, I'd be more concerned about the life an animal leads while it's alive than the specifics of the moment of death. Having seen poultry killed conventionally, and halal without the prestunning, there's not much difference in the distress the animal displays.
I'd take a humane happy open existence with a non prestunned death over a **** battery farm with a prestunned death every day of the week.
Very good post DStyle, food for thought for others.
Cheers Ron. I hit the hay just after I posted that. Heavy night at Spoons.
Yes, I recall now you started a thread about Halal just recently.
Yes, I recall now you started a thread about Halal just recently.
do not watch this video if you don't like to see animals suffer
Which = Normal British people.
The Halal way.
.
http://videos.britainfirst.org/video-britain-first-confronts-halal-centre-in-london-warning-graphic-content/
Which = Normal British people.
The Halal way.
.
http://videos.britainfirst.org/video-britain-first-confronts-halal-centre-in-london-warning-graphic-content/
Front page of The Mirror today was a bit grim... dogs being boiled alive in China for their meat... http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/defenceless-dogs-scream-agony-boiled...
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