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Come on UK. This is our country. Can we have some rules too please!

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By:
Ron-Russian
When: 25 Aug 16 19:01
Time to bring in the water cannons Excited
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 25 Aug 16 19:02
OMG

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/burkini-ban-uk-muslims-beach-swimwear-france-arrests-hijab-brighton-beach-a7209031.html
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 25 Aug 16 19:06
'I don't think anyone should tell women what to wear,' says London Mayor Sadiq Khan

he should tell his mates in Luton this then when they keep abusing white women for their appearance.
By:
akabula
When: 25 Aug 16 19:16
I'm always amazed that no one in public life brings that argument up BB.
Their way or none is their stance.
By:
akabula
When: 25 Aug 16 19:18
That pic Ron, ffs.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 25 Aug 16 19:18
I see the hand wringers are protesting about this in London outside the French embassy tonight, it is it seems Islamophobic. Why don't they p1ss off to Paris and protest there, on the way they could drop off this week's copies of Socialist Worker to the other freaks stirring it in Calais.
By:
Clouseau
When: 25 Aug 16 19:21
tbf a beach is somewhere people can relax and not feel self conscious in their swimsuits, or otherwise in designated areas, because nearly everyone else is wearing the same stuff.

If you go onto a nudist beach, for example, it is not right to be sitting there in full cozzy as it makes others feel as if they are being spied on. If you are going to wear a cozzy go to a cozzy beach.

I would imagine that ladies in bikinis, in particular, feel unnerved somewhat when their bit of relaxation gets disturbed by people turning up around them full burkini. It would certainly unnerve me when I've got my t1ts and arse covered up just by my itsy-bitsy yellow polka-dot ensemble. Shocked
By:
mobo
When: 25 Aug 16 19:25
Slowly slowly it will become a foreign country.  We are well on our way.
By:
mobo
When: 25 Aug 16 19:26
the designated areas will be demanded by them eventually - they are doing that already
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 25 Aug 16 19:28
I know aka Sad
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 25 Aug 16 19:33
I doubt they use the water sports dressed like that ,

sh!t the life out of you if you was having a swim & 2 of them come
towards you on a pedal boat
By:
mini me
When: 25 Aug 16 19:44
Google the Mayor Brighton. He looks like a real action man!
By:
fool proof
When: 25 Aug 16 20:11
think his partner Geraldine may be a patsy.
By:
mini me
When: 25 Aug 16 20:15
Pansy?
By:
ribotman
When: 25 Aug 16 20:39
TEN Years ago....i visited my, local council,operated gymnasium,as per usual about 10.30. am,a peak time for gym users.

'Sorry this is a women only slot now' was the greeting i got at the front desk.'

Oh why is that i replied.

'Some women have complained that men have been staring at them while excercising'
Can you see where this is going?...not hard is it?.....

I,in my innocence,didn't realize what was behind this at that time.
Anyways i wrote to the council saying if women wanted  a time segregated from men could they not do it at a time that was not a peak time,as myself and others could only go round that time.
Got a reply basically saying noted your concerns but we're going ahead

they put curtains up to cover the tiny wired windows on the gym doors.

A woman i knew at the gym told me it was the,suprise suprise,muslim women who had complained

She also told me that these same women were going into the steam room fully burkhad up and the other women complained it was unhygenic for them.

Couldn't make it up.

Women only diddn't last long,don't know why,maybe other men and women complained,maybe it was my letter-doubt it,or maybe it stopped cause the gym went into private ownership.
By:
mini me
When: 25 Aug 16 21:15
Still considering the concept of a steamed up burkha
By:
rob_dylan
When: 25 Aug 16 21:23
Since when is 10.30am a peak time?
By:
bongo
When: 25 Aug 16 21:23
That Brighton photograph is one of the most British scenes I've ever seen.
We are renowned for being a tolerant nation, and for being tolerant of eccentricity. And those women are having FUN. For sure it's not the chit-chat idea of fun which is probably watching three abreast over the last at Kempton, jockeys using their whips, while sipping aldi red wine, but it is their idea of fun, and you can see legs, hands, faces and smiles.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 25 Aug 16 21:25
The question is, why weren't these protesters on the streets of Rotherham showing their solidarity to the young abused females ?

We live in a mad world.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 25 Aug 16 21:25
Phwooooar, look at those ankles
By:
ribotman
When: 25 Aug 16 21:30
Rob it was peak time for meLaugh
By:
akabula
When: 25 Aug 16 21:31
at Brighton photograph is one of the most British scenes I've ever seen

Ye'll need to move out of Bradford bongo.
By:
ribotman
When: 25 Aug 16 21:34
Yes actually evenings were worst,but many liked to go before lunch as exercising after was not too good after a meal also as it was local authority run many unemployed who couldn't afford private gym fees went during the day.
By:
maleuk01.
When: 25 Aug 16 21:42
If they think people should be able to wear what they want (including the idiot of a mayor)then what pressure have they put on Saudi Arabia (and other Muslim countries) etc to let women inc western women wear whatever bikini's etc on their beaches.

Ohhhh none, march over here protest kick up a fuss but say f all about restrictions of other religions in Muslim countries.

Bunch of hypocrites.
By:
jed.davison
When: 25 Aug 16 21:45
This is Great Britain. People should not be told what to wear. That's it really.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 25 Aug 16 21:54
With respect jed...we know damn well the ones wearing it are looking/hoping
to change Great Britain to their way!

one trouble making load of ***** imo, who wants to go on a beach covered from
near head to toe in ridiculous temperatures?

let's not forget WHY their wearing it, it's not THEIR choice they'll
be receiving physical violence from the supposed men of their supposed religion
if taking it off.
By:
blackbarn
When: 25 Aug 16 21:55
interesting that just 300 yards to the east from where these photo's were taken you do not need to wear anything at all. Funny old world.  Still, I agree with jed, even though I am not totally comfortable with men in skirts who have daggers in their socks.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 25 Aug 16 21:56
If they want to wear a burkina on a beach then I dont have a problem with it.  Why are some people so angry about it?  This is England ffs, not Saudi.
By:
akabula
When: 25 Aug 16 22:00
I think the reason people are angry is because these same people object to the dress sense of others.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 25 Aug 16 22:01
If you give them an inch they take a mile - we're dealing with a medieval
supposed religion remember - always worth remembering that in 2016.

we go forwards in life not backwards.

nip it in the bud
By:
rob_dylan
When: 25 Aug 16 22:01
Well dont sink to their level.
By:
jed.davison
When: 25 Aug 16 22:03
It is up to us to reject their barbarous religion and their attempted encroachment into our jurisprudence strongly - we do not do that by denying women a day out at the seaside.

And your concern for these women is duplicitous - if their lot is as bad as you think it is, why would you want to criminalise them for what they wear.

Banning women from wearing certain clothes is about as illiberal as you can get, and makes you far worse than the people you cite as proponents of illerabalism towards women, because rightly or wrongly they believe they are acting according to their religious scripture. You are only acting out of spite and intolerance.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 25 Aug 16 22:08
Clearly stupid to stop anyone wearing anything that they want when they go to a beach, this looks staged btw.

Im more worried about the enjoyment of these women, i can be half naked i need to cool off, how do these poor puppets feel ? Sad
By:
blackbarn
When: 25 Aug 16 22:09
I have little to add to jed's post.

Akabula - my problem with your post is that I do not think "people are angry" about this "issue" in general, or even particularly people bathing fully/over clothed on Brighton beach.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 25 Aug 16 22:11
Always worth remembering there's no sharia law here & if they feel that strongly
about their supposed religion probably best them jump on a plane & fo to a country
that supports sharia....& stop receiving our benefits.

i don't want to see barbaric ways here - same with their style of killing animals.

in fact every aspect of the supposed religion.
By:
akabula
When: 25 Aug 16 22:14
That's not what I meant by my post bb.
I meant on general on here.
If I was at the beach it wouldn't bother me.
By:
bongo
When: 25 Aug 16 22:14
@akabula

Bradford has the Al Mahdi mosque, which is one of the biggest Ahmadi mosques in GB. The Ahmadi are really the Church of England of the Islamic world, even other Muslims don't consider them as serious Muslims. If you go up the Leeds road on a Saturday you will pass hijab shops and there will be teenage girls on the pavement going wild with excitement checking each other out, looking at what they've bought.
Glasgow has a fair sized Ahmadi community too, all decent people. It's the odd nut case among the sunnis you have to be wary of.
By:
Wallflower
When: 25 Aug 16 22:16
...with Rob / Jed on this one. Couldn't care less what people wear on beach - full burkha or nothing at all. Don't see what the fuss is about.

The 'we're tolerant people, but not to intolerant people' type argument seems a bit silly to me.
By:
jed.davison
When: 25 Aug 16 22:17
These are separate issues though Ron.

I'm no apologist for Islam, as far as I am concerned it has no place in the modern world like every other theistic belief system. And again your reference to halal, and I presume kosher, slaughter is risible given the lives led by most animals bred for the table.

Think about what you are suggesting - that Great Britain impose laws forcing women to change the way they dress. As a chap quoted in the article above states, only France and Islamic State have enshrined such statutes. One would hope not to follow either of those entities for clues on a civil society.
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