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http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/british-schoolgirl-who-travelled-to-join-islamic-state-killed-in-air-strike/ar-BBvw1dp?li=BBoPWjQ

Interesting her sister thinks 'she is in a better place.'

Joining a terrorist group hell bent on committing mass murder and atrocities against innocent civilians and non ISIS members (i.e her family) still think that?!!
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Report Ron-Russian August 12, 2016 11:09 AM BST
I was just looking on ITV's Twitter's News link to this story, absolutely no sympathy
what so ever for this girl is whats been posted - i think people are so annoyed with the
way their destroying our country & are unable to do much about it when an opportunity
comes along like this the British people don't need a second invitation to stick the
boot in - the Media & Politicians must be cringing over the feedback from this story,
surely in their little world they wasn't expecting the majority to feel sympathy?
Report lfc1971 August 12, 2016 11:10 AM BST
yes jed, i looked at that it is a reality check, Scotland may? and Ireland choose to favor an alliance with any other foreign nation even at
great danger to England?
Report jed.davison August 12, 2016 11:18 AM BST
To be fair, the EU has carefully cultivated the more backward and unproductive countries of Europe. It is little wonder they showed such reluctance to leave the teat.
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 11:20 AM BST
lfc1971  • August 12, 2016 10:24 AM BST 
ebul you are making a lot of assumptions, how do you know that her sister did not support her actions, and the murders.


I do not, but there has to be some evidence to support your statement, otherwise it is just an assumption

like mine lfc1971.
Report lfc1971 August 12, 2016 11:24 AM BST
i havn`t made a statement ebul, you did.
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 11:26 AM BST
We both made statements lfc1971.

Like yourself I am giving my opinion I only know the same as everybody else.
Report lfc1971 August 12, 2016 11:27 AM BST
what statement did i make?
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 11:28 AM BST
lfc1971  • August 12, 2016 10:24 AM BST 
ebul you are making a lot of assumptions, how do you know that her sister did not support her actions, and the murders.
Report lfc1971 August 12, 2016 11:29 AM BST
yes that is an observation, not a statement
Report lfc1971 August 12, 2016 11:29 AM BST
we`re going round in circlesHappy
Report jed.davison August 12, 2016 11:31 AM BST
It is neither an observation or a statement, it is a question.

HTH
Report lfc1971 August 12, 2016 11:32 AM BST
if you can give me a quote from the girls family, or community that helps you to come to your view that would be a start.
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 11:33 AM BST
mine is an observation, we can pick hairs forever

you give me a quote form the girls family or community

That is true Jed

I cannot answer it with any certainty, but neither can anybody else
Report lfc1971 August 12, 2016 11:34 AM BST
yes jed`s correct, thats why i ask for something that her sister or family or community has said
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 11:34 AM BST
I do not have it, neither do you lfc1971
Report lfc1971 August 12, 2016 11:35 AM BST
exactly, why not?
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 11:37 AM BST
I am not close to this family, I do not know any more than anyone else, every post on this thread is either an assumption

or an opinion, including mine
Report Ron-Russian August 12, 2016 11:39 AM BST
I wouldn't hold your breath if anyone's expecting the supposed moderate muslim
community to come out & speak out against these young girls actions
Report lfc1971 August 12, 2016 11:41 AM BST
when autumn comes the leaves fall from the trees, that is not an assumption or an opinion...or is it?
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 11:46 AM BST
That is a fact, I have stated an opinion not a fact, so have you and everybody else on this thread

I have said it does surprise someone mourns her own sister and is grieving, is that so strange?????
Report lfc1971 August 12, 2016 11:47 AM BST
i like to observe, and in my opinion that is not an assumption, not really
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 11:48 AM BST
You were the one who said it was an assumption lfc1971Crazy
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 11:49 AM BST
My statement, I also observe and offer opinions

This forum is to allow people to offer their opinions
Report lfc1971 August 12, 2016 11:50 AM BST
nobody would be surprised at that ebul, do you know that also some families consider family members who have murdered innoccent mem women and children as martyrs, that is a fact not an opinion

that is the reason i am saying that you are making an assumption
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 11:52 AM BST
So are you lfc1971...because neither of us know exactly how her family feel
Report lfc1971 August 12, 2016 11:54 AM BST
exactly, that is why i said you are making an assumption..how do you know?
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 11:56 AM BST
We all make assumptions in life, we make an assumption the Sun comes up every morning, one day it wont.

We can go round and round like this forever on the merry go ground lfc1971

I will take a break I have to go out
Report lfc1971 August 12, 2016 11:56 AM BST
how do you know what her family and community think about what she has done
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 11:57 AM BST
how do you lfc1971????
Report lfc1971 August 12, 2016 11:59 AM BST
i like facts, if you tell me the sun will comes up tomorrow that is fine, i have observed that and have watched it happenHappy
Report lfc1971 August 12, 2016 12:02 PM BST
time to go also ebul, have to play golf.
Report Mikael D'Haguenet August 12, 2016 12:03 PM BST
Which one is Barry, and which one is Paul?
Report akabula August 12, 2016 12:29 PM BST
ebulGery
Yes Roger......
Also remember this young women has paid for her mistake, as the two killers of Lees Rigby are doing.


I've seen plenty of objectionable posts on here over the years and this is up there with the worst of them.
To call theses actions mistakes takes a special kind of stupidity.
Report akabula August 12, 2016 12:34 PM BST
Had the girl gone and then thought better of it we could have put it down to a mistake but she didn't.
She married an ISIS member and rejoiced in his barbarity. It was only when he was killed that she thought of coming home.
As for the killers of Lee Rigby how could you even begin to tag this a 'mistake'? It was an act of savagery carried out by savages.
Report mobo August 12, 2016 12:41 PM BST
I think it is a good start.
Report pumphol. August 12, 2016 1:27 PM BST
BBC 1 NEWS

Frank Gardner -  " & very sadly it was reported in May that she died in a Russian air strike"

As this is a reporter reporting news, " sadly " for whom ?  certainly not for the vast majority of viewers.

Pathetic  & ridiculously bias reporting.
Report guinness2dear August 12, 2016 1:30 PM BST
So it happened 3 months ago? Sis they wait til school hols to release it..
Report terry mccann August 12, 2016 2:51 PM BST
how did this kid think she could come back? nobody who goes there should ever be allowed back,
ww2 if you went to fight for the germans and realized you had made a mistake and came back(of course this never happened) you would hang for treason and quiet right tooAngry
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 3:07 PM BST
In answer to you lfc1971

Anything we say which is not known as fact must be an assumption
whether or not we call it an opinion, an observation, a blind guess or anything else.
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 3:11 PM BST
I see no one agrees with me.....that is usual for my posts

I think I make good points, right or wrong

I honestly cannot see why people are so upset by my posts on this threadConfusedConfused
Report maleuk01. August 12, 2016 3:13 PM BST
Where did these young women who ran off to Syria get there very strong views on ISIS from? My guess would be close family members (must be strong to run off there)

The guy who murdered the shopkeeper in Scotland, for wishing people happy Easter, had a gallery full of his supporters (family and friends) when he was being sentenced.
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 3:17 PM BST
The guy who murdered the shopkeeper in Scotland, for wishing people happy Easter, had a gallery full of his supporters (family and friends) when he was being sentenced.

The sad truth is not everyone feels the same as this forum......Sad
Report xmoneyx August 12, 2016 3:18 PM BST
she got her A+ o-grade in terror economics

w/d Cool
Report jamesdean August 12, 2016 3:27 PM BST
No one agrees with you ebul because you purposely say the opposite to everyone else to get into a debate/argument.

You seem to enjoy playing that part. Each to their own and it's not a dig, it is just the way it is.
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 3:41 PM BST
ermBlush
Report jed.davison August 12, 2016 3:49 PM BST
I don't think that at all jamesdean. I think EbulGery is a genuine idiot.
Report mobo August 12, 2016 4:14 PM BST
you want sympathy for someone who is involved in a vicious terrorist organisation??
Report terry mccann August 12, 2016 4:17 PM BST
well at least he"s on his own of that one guys,if not we may as well give in now ffs
Report Burton-Brewers August 12, 2016 5:09 PM BST
lessons must be learned, regrettable etc etc
Report mobo August 12, 2016 5:29 PM BST
400 have returned here
no longer fighting/killing(we hope) but can you imagine what goes on in their heads and what they will tell their community
spreading sh!te against the honkeys
Report Ron-Russian August 12, 2016 5:53 PM BST
a lot of people highlighting on the BBC's reporting.

LONDON SCHOOLGIRL FEARED DEAD IN SYRIA
Report Just Checking August 12, 2016 6:09 PM BST
"The guy who murdered the shopkeeper in Scotland, for wishing people happy Easter, had a gallery full of his supporters"
They didn't seem to think he'd done anything wrong. And they had a tawt on later saying instead Britain should reintroduce blasphemy laws!!! In Pakistan of course they still have the death sentence for saying the "wrong" thing, I'm sure that's what they want here, then they wouldn't need to take a taxi to do it themselves.

WTF is wrong in lefties heads that they can't see what's going so wrong in front of our eyes? In Germany the natives are popping out like 0.1 kid a mother and their new friends increase at an exponential rate. BF should open a book on the first european country that will introduce their medieval laws. We might see it in our lifetime.
Report Wesdag August 12, 2016 6:30 PM BST
Great news to wake up to.

Hopefully they'll get the other 2.
Report olddesperado August 12, 2016 7:46 PM BST
Fcuk me wesdag, that's some lie in.
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 10:23 PM BST
My only point was that even people who believe in ISIS have family feelings. Because that is what human beings do,

except maybe on here?

I do not consider a 16 year old girl evil either, because she believed in what others consider a wrong cause.

The women I consider evil are those who kill and torture their own children.

I find ISIS barbaric myself.

But the sad truth is some people believe in them, will die for them, support them, that is reality.

I tend to post on threads which I consider are too one sided or hypocritical, which is why I appear to be always arguing,

although I do like an argument I admit.
Report ebulGery August 12, 2016 10:24 PM BST
Nobody has to agree with me
Report pumphol. August 12, 2016 10:50 PM BST
I agree with that LaughLaugh
Report ebulGery August 13, 2016 12:09 AM BST
Sad
Report Wesdag August 13, 2016 1:01 AM BST
she believed in what others consider a wrong cause

Stop embarrassing yourself ebul.

Next you'll be defending the gas chambers...Oh wait...
Report Rockinron August 13, 2016 8:54 AM BST
Stupid bint got what she deserved !
Report Ron-Russian August 13, 2016 9:48 AM BST
John Gaunt said on radio you'd thing there was going to be a
state funeral the way the BBC are going on about it Laugh
Report Ibrahima Sonko August 13, 2016 9:49 AM BST
Laugh
Report Ron-Russian August 13, 2016 9:55 AM BST
This is worth a listen, Jon speaks to a muslim on his station who
says radicalisation happens in the home not on the internet!

https://audioboom.com/boos/4928125-pod-three-uk-muslim-says-radicalisation-happens-in-the-home-not-on-the-internet-12th-august
Report Ron-Russian August 13, 2016 10:13 AM BST
first caller goes on to around 8 minutes but very interesting view & most
probably right
Report ebulGery August 13, 2016 10:15 AM BST
Wesdag  • August 13, 2016 1:01 AM BST 
she believed in what others consider a wrong cause
Stop embarrassing yourself ebul.
Next you'll be defending the gas chambers...Oh wait...


I can live with embarrassment Wesdag

Not everybody sees thing the same way.......that is why we are always fighting wars

and yet everybody thinks they are right????????????????????????????????????????????
Report akabula August 13, 2016 11:40 AM BST
jed.davison
I don't think that at all jamesdean. I think EbulGery is a genuine idiot.


LaughLaughLaugh
Report akabula August 13, 2016 11:49 AM BST
Just Checking
BF should open a book on the first european country that will introduce their medieval laws. We might see it in our lifetime.


SNP MP Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh is a partner in a legal firm in Glasgow which recently advertised themselves a the first law firm in the UK to offer Sharia Law.
Report Ibrahima Sonko August 13, 2016 12:03 PM BST
Will we get a public bank holiday when her funeral is held ?
Report Slicer August 13, 2016 1:25 PM BST
My heart bleeds for her. OOps- actually her heart bled for me!!
Report terry mccann August 13, 2016 1:26 PM BST
the only thing left of her were her glasses,still quick unlike the other silly moo who as killed by a hammer for wanted to leave
Report Slicer August 13, 2016 1:31 PM BST
Mr Mccann. Were they NHS glasses? You see we help them with their eyesight and those are the thanks we get. Still she will get her 72 good looking Muslim virgins while the NHS saves about £200 a year.
Report Ron-Russian August 13, 2016 1:39 PM BST
These are the final rounds to find the best 72 for her!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48laJC8wYl4
Report terry mccann August 13, 2016 1:41 PM BST
all good news slicer yes
Report Slicer August 13, 2016 1:42 PM BST
Was this the Jeremy Corbyn lookalike  conference?
Report ebulGery August 13, 2016 2:10 PM BST
I admit I am an idiot...Crazy

You mock the death of a 16 year old girl....yet you complain about my attitude to womenConfused
Report Slicer August 13, 2016 2:15 PM BST
This is a 16 year old girl joining an army with which her country is at war.The old fashion term is treason. Mocking is slightly wrong. Celebrating is 100% correct.
Report ebulGery August 13, 2016 2:18 PM BST
Treason, strewth!
Report ebulGery August 13, 2016 2:21 PM BST
Careful you do not make her a martyr
Report Slicer August 13, 2016 2:28 PM BST
I don't make her into anything. Thankfully the armed forces made her into ashes. I hope none of your family ever get caught up in an atrocity to test your sympathy for this scum. btw-if there were 2 of them would they be twomartyrs? Geddit!
Report casemoney August 13, 2016 3:02 PM BST
Glasses were very Big
Report akabula August 13, 2016 5:51 PM BST
The death of everyone who either fights for ISIS or supports them should be celebrated.
Report ebulGery August 13, 2016 8:13 PM BST
I am not the enemy...it is not me you have to fear.

Everybody preaches to the converted(except me) on here.

I do not normally celebrate anyone's death.

I exercise my right of Free Speech that is all.
Report ebulGery August 13, 2016 8:16 PM BST
Don't take up humour as a living SlicerSad...pathetic
Report Clouseau August 13, 2016 8:27 PM BST
Quite right ebul... you are the biggest comedian on here.
Report mobo August 13, 2016 8:56 PM BST
I am quite positive about this.  I see it as a good start.
Report ebulGery August 13, 2016 9:16 PM BST
Clouseau.....erm I am not sure how to take thatLaugh

If you read my posts I am against ISIS, I always have been.
We are slowly making ground against them in the Middle East.

I have not lost my humanity though. I think people do make mistakes.
Report treetop August 13, 2016 9:32 PM BST
The media should be showing what happened to the austrian girl for trying to escape and discourage others from even trying to counter the 'glamorous picture' that Isis circulated to entice stupid and impressionable muslim kids.
Report mobo August 13, 2016 9:35 PM BST
No - it is a jolly good idea to join in - very British to be part of an organisation - all part of joining in - look at the WI for starters

All you nazis say they don't assimilate etc etc - this is all part of joining a group and feeling wanted etc

ALLI BA BA and all that
Report ebulGery August 13, 2016 9:41 PM BST
I would not disagree with that Treetop.

You are in your sarcastic mood MoboLaugh
Report treetop August 13, 2016 9:46 PM BST
It must be the odd drink or five,eh ?
Report ebulGery August 13, 2016 9:54 PM BST
Laugh
Report Jayco August 13, 2016 10:17 PM BST
She was brainwashed, 16 years old should of been listening to music, watching soaps, studying, not getting manipulated by her peers.
Report crags August 13, 2016 10:29 PM BST
Do they have peers in Bradford?

I was quite surprised that there was one in Wigan till I read that book.
Report Rockinron August 14, 2016 9:54 AM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48laJC8wYl4
Ugly bunch of phuckers ...does she get 72 kn obs then ?
Report fool proof August 14, 2016 10:11 AM BST
Discussing on BBC1 now 4 P a ki s and nick ferrari. not surprising the describe as a tragedy.Apart from Nick.
Report GoOnThen August 14, 2016 10:14 AM BST
Funny how now they're getting absolutely mullahed in Syria and Iraq,they suddenly want to come home.
Report GoOnThen August 14, 2016 10:18 AM BST
Owen Jones is white.
Report fool proof August 14, 2016 10:22 AM BST
But he works for The Gaurdian so doesn't count.
Report Ron-Russian August 14, 2016 10:34 AM BST
Your normal everyday supposed moderate muslim!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUI_ij5mbTA
Report terry mccann August 14, 2016 10:43 AM BST
why don't the germans revert back to type,you know just for a couple of years,built a few camps etc and show em who"s boss? only joking of course but I cant believe how weak they are now,i don't know but they seem to have no spirit no pride
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