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P. Radcliffe...world record holder by 3 minutes(yeah right)
Linford..well he did fail a test in the end.
Fatama..I just have a deep voice and bigger muscles than Popeye(yeah right)
A.Wells..just ridiculous
M farah..disgraced coach done..but nowt to do with Mo..(yeah right)
c Froome..(yeah)
Linford..well he did fail a test in the end.
Fatama..I just have a deep voice and bigger muscles than Popeye(yeah right)
A.Wells..just ridiculous
M farah..disgraced coach done..but nowt to do with Mo..(yeah right)
c Froome..(yeah)
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disgraceful thread. brits only ever win through hard work and spring water. the only drug cheating brits are the ones who finish last or near last
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is maybe for the lawyer
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Adam Peaty how much did he take off the WR?! 1.33 seconds faster than anyone in history over such a short distance. Look up the WR progression for the event, it seems unnatural.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_record_progression_100_metres_breaststroke
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every single women in the 100m butterfly final beat the world record set by Jenny Thompson in Sydney in 1999
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every single man in the 100m breaststroke final beat the world record set in 2001
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wd hamster..thats where I was heading.
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Swimming is getting faster. Unlikely to be drugs because it is too widespread. Look at the American Katie Ledecky who is absurdly fast. Is it the pools?
Paula Radcliffe was almost certainly drugs-free, and there was a very clear pattern to her form. She was only great in cool climates; she melted in the heat. Chris Froome. Cycling is more about the team than the cyclist these days, like Formula One. |
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Jim Peters in the 1954 Vancouver Empire Games marathon. Very similar to Tom Simpson's collapse on the Ventoux in 1967 Tour de France.
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Paula Radcliffe was almost certainly drugs-free, and there was a very clear pattern to her form. She was only great in cool climates; she melted in the heat.
So because she couldnt run in warm weather she was drugs free?  Her marathon time is absurd. Either its the greatest sporting performance of all time or shes a drugs cheat. |
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bet we dont as many medals as london 4 years ago a lot of them retired wonder why
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You people really have no idea do you?
Throwing around unsubstantiated accusations like confetti. Extrapolating data based on absurd logic. Zero understanding - or at least, zero acknowledgement - of advances in sport science, diet, physiotherapy and equipment, rule changes and funding, allowing athletes to train harder and smarter. Advances that have moved sports on more in the last decade tan they have moved in the last century Zero understanding of the testing procedures and biochemistry (and substantial advances made in both of these areas) of testing. Zero acknowledgement of the part an athletes dedication in training and wholesale life-changes can make to their performance No. Just the usual bar-room bore loudmouth ramblings designed to do nothing more than show just how big and clever the deliverer is, whilst actually confirming the exact opposite. |
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the.mad.dog.man
Joined: 11 Dec 01 Replies: 6534 10 Aug 16 09:24 bet we dont as many medals as london 4 years ago a lot of them retired wonder why Because you will never beat the high of winning a Gold medal in front of your home crowd. Because it's not simply a question of popping some pills and giving it a lash on the day. You basically put what everyone else calls 'a life' on hold for an Olympic Cycle, so maybe some athletes wanted to get back to the real world or, more likely, couldn't afford to not to for another 4 years in the prime of their lives. |
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I don't doubt that everything you have written above, Roger, is absolutely correct, sir. That said, it is a rather unfair to berate folks too harshly for being suspicious, as history has so often proven those suspicions to be well founded.
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she was named in Houses of Parliament as having suspicious blood samples and then refused to release her blood history
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ok roger..no brit has ever used drugs to gain an advantage.
I may be a bar room bore but you are a simpleton. |
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So what OP is saying is that it is curious how a modern full-time athlete, backed by state-of-the-art facilities, diet, specific training regimes and funding etc. can perform better than a bloke who used to get up in the morning, do a paper round, catch the bus into town and clock-in at the butchers and chop meat for a day, have a quick jog around the town shale track, then spend the evening in the local boozer.... hmmm... he has a point.
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Carl Lewis was the biggest disappointment for me personally.
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I'm not saying no Brit has ever used PED's.
That would be manifestly wrong and nor am I saying no Brit will ever be found guilty of using PED's, fail a drugs test or even fall foul of the drugs testing procedure. In fact I'm perversely quite pleased when they are found out, since, unlike plenty herein, I don't use this to back up a 'they're all at it' stance (just what would it take for you to drop the cynical pose BTW?, but see it as the system working. Someone like Lizzie Armistead should not be competing at these Games, but that is down to the lily-livered approach to enforcement adopted by governing bodies (thankfully the International Paralympic Committee are showing some spine and leadership here) not the PED testing procedures. I am saying that for whatever reason - ignorance of proven, substantiated facts, trying to look cool and 'in the know', knocking other peoples enjoyment of something,. I don't know - there is a group of posters in here who are so far wide of the mark they make Emile Heskey look like a sharpshooter. |
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PokerDane
Joined: 06 Aug 10 Replies: 445 10 Aug 16 09:34 I don't doubt that everything you have written above, Roger, is absolutely correct, sir. That said, it is a rather unfair to berate folks too harshly for being suspicious, as history has so often proven those suspicions to be well founded. NO IT HASN'T!! That's the very point I am making!! Everyone points at those who fail a test or don't comply with the testing procedures and then, bizarrely, leap to the conclusion that all athletes are drugs cheats, maybe invoking some tricksy data extrapolation to back up their position. Turn it on it's head. Doesn't the fact that the vast percentage of British medallists across all Olympic sports are clean and comply with the testing procedures for their sport, nullify the very argument you are making? Or at the very least, ensure that those who do fail or fail to comply with procedures, are viewed as an outlying aberration? |
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Heather Stanning - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures
Helen Glover - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Kat Copeland - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Sophie Hosking - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Alex Gregory - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Pete Reed - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Andy Triggs-Hodge - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Tom James - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Kath Grainger - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures (in fact carried on being tested during 2 years of non-completion) Anna Watkins - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Jessica Ennis - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Greg Rutherford - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Ben Ainslie - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Andy Murray - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Laura Bechtolsheimer - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Charlotte Dujardin - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Ed McKeever - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Etienne Stott & Tim Baillie - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures etc...... etc.... |
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think they got the nod when the testers were due
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Lance Armstrong Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedure
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That the best you got?
My point well and truly made. One non-British Olympic Bronze medal winner! Scott Brash - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Carl Hester - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Michael Jamieson - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures Gemma Gibbons - Clean and never failed to comply with drugs testing procedures I can keep this going 'til the (non-steroid enhanced) cows come home...... |
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the.mad.dog.man
Joined: 11 Dec 01 Replies: 6535 10 Aug 16 10:14 think they got the nod when the testers were due On what basis? |
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win a gold and earn a million
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tests mean nothing. Even this russian dope controversy only came about when an insider turned informant much like when Armstrong was caught when Landis turned informant....
Big difference between being clean and not testing positive. The idea of world records set by East Germans being destroyed by clean athletes etc.... is laughable. The idea of the entire field within olympic finals beating world records set within the last 20 years is comical. bit like the olympics.....one big joke |
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Well, I've put forward sound statements as to why what you say is not comical but entirely understandable
And as far as natural law and those without your psychic abilities are concerned, there is no difference between 'being clean and not testing positive', other than in your world of innuendo and (PED-enhanced) leaps of logic. Whereas all you have to offer is bluster and smiley emoticons. Now, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. You are in your corner and I am in mine. I just want anyone else reading this thread to keep an open mind on this issue. |
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the.mad.dog.man
Joined: 11 Dec 01 Replies: 6536 10 Aug 16 11:30 win a gold and earn a million Care to speculate on how much any of the names I listed above earned from winning their Gold at London 2016? I don't know but I'd suggest it's substantially south of 'a million'. |
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roger..if something seems to good to be true it usually is.
paula being 3 minutes ahead of the next best time in history and the 100 metre breast stroker being 1.66 seconds ahead of the next best time are highly unlikely to be clean. |
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Well until it's proven otherwise you will have to believe you are right, whilst I have science and natural justice on mine.
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are you aware of Dr Fuentes?..if not google him.
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science is not on your side as the scientists are working for BOTH sides.
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science? The russians were only outed when an inside turned informant just like Armstrong. Tests aren't worth a carrot.
David Millar the british cyclist was only found out when french police raided his home and he eventually admitted using EPO.... he never failed a single test. The world record progressions in the olympics are a joke and show the freak show and circus the olympics is sofiakenny is spot on |
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why froome suspicions ?
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science is not on your side as the scientists are working for BOTH sides.
in some cases its been shown the same scientist has been working for both sides |
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Be a lot easier if everyone could take what they wanted. Save a fortune in anti doping costs. If they want to risk their lives then go right ahead.
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Science can't be on the side of 'clean' when 'clean science' needs whistleblowers to know what to test for!
Somebody mentioned Millar. I remember him saying he phoned Armstrong just before Christmas to wish him a good one. LA was in France training the Tour route while Millar was drinking at a party. LA had unbelievable drive and the best doping regime. It's not one or the other. People have heard so many reasons why someone is so good that turned out to be b0llocks. Not everybody is doping but how many times does it happen or get covered up before you just switch off a bit and take it all with a pinch of salt? |
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Be a lot easier if everyone could take what they wanted. Save a fortune in anti doping costs. If they want to risk their lives then go right ahead.
So if your kids wanted to take up competitive sport, you'd be happy to pump them full of drugs ? |