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Ron-Russian
27 Jul 16 22:01
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Can anyone explain how this isn't violent?

am i reading it wrong or something!

Pickthall: They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,

Arberry: They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper

Imams in mosques around the world wouldn't be allowed to stray away
from these 2 different accounts of the verse that much so isn't it pretty obvious
where the problems stemming from?

No lets just bury our heads in the sand and tell all it's a religion
of peace
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Report Ron-Russian July 27, 2016 10:14 PM BST
News reports saying about, how can you fight against an ideology like Islamic state!

the Ideology is in the Quran - all their doing is following the rules/guidelines.

You obviously get a % that know the violent verses but will either ignore them or
make out they mean something totally different - but it's pretty obvious how people
are getting radicalised when the basics of the Quran suggest this is the right behaviour
Report Rockinron July 27, 2016 10:44 PM BST
One viral image points to One viral image points to Japan as an example of a country that keeps out radical Islam by cracking down on all forms of Islam and its adherents, implying that this is a good model for the United States to follow.
"Japan is the only nation that does not give citizenship to Muslims"

• "Permanent residency is not given to Muslims"

• "Propagation of Islam in Japan is banned"

• "In the University of Japan, Arabic or any Islamic language is not taught"

• "Japan is the only country in the world with a negligible number of embassies in Islamic countries"

• "One cannot import a ‘Koran’ published in the Arabic language"

• "Muslims must follow Japanese law and language".

• "The Japanese government is of the opinion that Muslims are fundamentalist, and unwilling to change their Muslim laws"

• "Muslims cannot even rent a house in Japan"

• "There is no sharia law in Japan"

Simple innit !
Report Ron-Russian July 27, 2016 10:51 PM BST
Lay the laws down first Ron, should have been the rule.
That needed to be done in the early days instead of creating a monster.

Lets go one step further & start teaching bit's of islam in British schools! Cry

i don't think anyone's got the stomach to deal with it in Europe - it's to far
broke/riddled.....god knows where this failed experiment will end.
Report digdeep July 27, 2016 11:30 PM BST
Perhaps when MohamMAD flew to heaven on his winged horse to get the new rules from God,God was in a filthy mood  hence the difference to what he told his son to tell us mere mortals.
Report Ron-Russian July 27, 2016 11:41 PM BST
Being the character he was - you wouldn't believe a word he said would you.
Report digdeep July 27, 2016 11:45 PM BST
He would be sectioned today
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