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alun2005
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They stood at railway stations and Border Non-Control points in Germany and clapped the Pretendy Refugees through, fully aware that these Cultural Enrichers had not been security checked.

The luvvies knew full well the incomers couldn't conceivably be Refugees as they'd already crossed umpteen safe countries to force their way into Germany. These, erm, 'desperate' sorts brought nothing with them bar their Smartphones, their nice Western clothes and their staggering sense of entitlement. 

All this DESPITE Europe having been warned in advance by ISIS that they would send their representatives here via the Pretendy Refugee route.

On this Forum our very own IAN Mohammed encouraged us all to offer a home to such 'Refugees'. He would himself do so because it was 'the only moral and humanitarian thing to do'. Anyone who didn't was 'narrow' and 'bitter', which btw roughly accounts for 99.99% of the public. Curiously IAN was too shy to tell us exactly how many such 'Syrian Refugees' he himself was accommodating and meeting all costs of privately. Or refugees from previous conflicts in war-torn countries. (The smart money suggests ZERO).

It didn't take long for the New Citizens to make their presence felt across Germany, with events in Cologne in particular ensuring there would be no Happy New Year for many young women.

And that's pretty much how events have continued to evolve in Germany, almost on a weekly basis ever since. Last week an Unaccompanied Pretendy Asylum Seeker left a railway carriage looking like a slaughterhouse, and to top off a week of carnage, we are hearing of more unbelievable savagery in Reutlingen, S.W.Germany. A woman (believed pregnant) has been murdered by a Syrian Refugee wielding a machete, and several others injured. How low do you have to go to do something as unspeakable as that?

The kiiler hasn't been named yet, as the craven, culpable authorities who invited this crime epidemic into Germany are doubtless having a committee meeting right now to decide which Western names to add to the killer's existing one, to show the world 'he was just like us'.

By morning I'm guessing he'll be named publicly as Bernhard Franz Boris Steffi Kerber Mohammed Nena Kaymer Schumacher, a promising footballer, a multi-talented Golfing Tennis Player, and whose ambition is to represent Germany at the Eurovision Song Contest.

If the 'Welcome Refugees' morons have ANY remaining scintilla of self-respect and any fleeting finer feelings, they will apologise for their catastrophic poor judgement. How many other innocent people have to murdered and maimed to make these deluded idiots feel good about themselves? Let me guess… this latest outrage is "a small price to pay"?

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-machete-attack-stuttgart-reutlingen-crime-knife-attack-a7153561.html

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/24/syrian-refugee-kills-woman-with-machete-in-southern-germany/

     


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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-machete-attack-stuttgart-reutlingen-crime-knife-attack-a7153561.html
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Report David Fishwick Minibus Sales • July 25, 2016 2:18 AM BST
there'd be no mass influx if all sides hadn't started sending them pretendy happy bombs
Report The Leopard • July 25, 2016 7:44 AM BST
Good post Alun but, what are your views on Anders Brevik, who murdered 69 innocent young people in Norway, many with head-shots?
Report The Leopard • July 25, 2016 8:18 AM BST
Alun, is he a hero of yours ?

Wiki :

Anders Behring Breivik (Norwegian pronunciation: [6] born 13 February 1979) is a Norwegian far-right terrorist who committed the 2011 Norway attacks. On 22 July 2011, he killed eight people by detonating a van bomb amid the Regjeringskvartalet in Oslo, then shot dead 69 participants of a Workers' Youth League (AUF) summer camp on the island of Utøya.In August 2012, he was convicted of mass murder, causing a fatal explosion, and terrorism.

On the day of the attacks, Breivik electronically distributed a compendium of texts entitled 2083: A European Declaration of Independence, describing his militant ideology. In them, he lays out a worldview encompassing opposition to Islam and blames Feminism for creating a European "cultural suicide". The texts call Islam and "Cultural Marxism" the enemy, and advocates the deportation of all Muslims from Europe based on the model of the Beneš decrees, while also claiming that feminism exists to destroy European culture. Breivik wrote that his main motive for the atrocities was to market his manifesto
Report rogerthebutler • July 25, 2016 8:34 AM BST
The Leopard
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    25 Jul 16 07:44   


Good post Alun but, what are your views on Anders Brevik, who murdered 69 innocent young people in Norway, many with head-shots?
 

Dunno about Alun but my initial reaction is 'Terrorist Top Trumps' is an even sh1ttier game than Pokémon Go
Report dave1357 • July 25, 2016 8:34 AM BST
Alan you must be a very happy man that after the string of home grown terror attacks, there are now some instances of refugee attacks.  Have you broken out a bottle of bubbly to celebrate?
Report PorcupineorPineapple • July 25, 2016 8:43 AM BST
I do get the feeling some people check the news in the morning for some atrocity or other and then do a little fist pump.
Report gooroo • July 25, 2016 8:47 AM BST
The prison population of Syria pre trouble was 10k,its now less than 1k,the going rate for a syrian passport is now 2k.It is 1k in a number of african and middle east countries to buy out of prison with transpost to the med coast.In an afgan village the young who steal rape etc are banished i wonder where.To come to the uk and study english for 1 year with accommadation approx cost 7k legally ofcourse.The same person can sneak in for 1k and get it all for nothing,its all about money as usual,i could go on and on,and dont forget the people here who make a good living out of the whole rancid business
Report alun2005 • July 25, 2016 8:47 AM BST
Breivik's actions were unspeakably bad. Hope that helps because some people here seem to be a bit confused about it.

What sort of lunatic could conceivably find comfort and enjoyment about the actions of Breivik and the carnage in Germany?
Report rogerthebutler • July 25, 2016 8:53 AM BST
Brevik?

A white supremacist who.....went and killed a load of white kids.

ISIS?

Kill more Muslims (at a guess) than 'kuffir'

Maybe they should swap sides
Report wildmanfromborneo • July 25, 2016 9:37 AM BST
The Breveic atrocity was five years ago,these attacks are current and on going.

Just be thankful that the gentlemen currently wrecking Germany no longer have the right to enter England.
Report lfc1971 • July 25, 2016 11:24 AM BST
The question for Europeans is should millions of people , from parts of the world known to have a very high percentage of mental illness be allowed into Europe?

now we have all manner of people in Europe ourselves, who would deny that?
but we do not have to account to anyone for our behaviour but ourselves.
it is simply a case of good manners. 
do Europeans wish to have mass murderers imported from every barbaric and uncivilised region of the world?
that is the question, of course we already have every type of rogue and rascal and violent person in Europe ourselves but that is not the point.
no one has the right to presume on the good nature of Europeans.
Report lfc1971 • July 25, 2016 11:35 AM BST
i don`t believe that it is good to policy to say well we have a few lunatics ourselves already, perhaps we should import a few more.
Report treetop • July 25, 2016 12:17 PM BST
The Brevik atrocity may not hae happened if he hadnt felt defenceless at the policy of enforced mass immigration delivered by Europe's political elite (??). Clearly deranged he reacted violently,but the liberals with blood on their hands should ask themselves if they have proceeded too fast with their desire for mass integration and cultural enrichment now that it is becoming the norm for one atrocity every day .
Report ebulGery • July 25, 2016 1:22 PM BST
I don't think Brevik can be defended myself treetop

I have never seen anyone do anything quite as evil as that man?

Still if that is your opinion.


Of course we need to stop Muslim immigration into Europe. They have been infiltrated or influenced by ISIS.

They should not be biting the hand that feeds them!

But I still feel we hold the majority responsibility here for stirring them up in the Middle East in the first place.

We must now calm them down.

ISIS must be destroyed

The civil war in Syria must end.

If we need to we work with Putin on this, do it, the cold war is over

just my opinion, or this goes on.
Report PorcupineorPineapple • July 25, 2016 1:33 PM BST
jesus treetop, I've seen some apologist drivel in my time but you take the prize.
Report ebulGery • July 25, 2016 1:34 PM BST
Brevik cols bloodedly gunned down 69 young people on the island of Utoya

over a 2 hour period. They could not escape.

This is real sadism, it is far worse than just denoting a bomb in my opinion. Brevik took joy in watching the fear and terror,

of his victims as he killed them, they had no escape.

They should never have taken him alive, he should not be alive now.

ps pp

He is mistaken treetop, he is not a bad bloke

I cant see how anyone can apologise for Brevik
Report ebulGery • July 25, 2016 1:37 PM BST
I am not using Brevik to justify Muslim attacks in Europe either...in case people think that.

Everything is bad here...no justification for anyone.
Report Slicer • July 25, 2016 1:51 PM BST
Merkel should be tried for murder. She invited them all in and now they are doing whst they do best it's too late. If she hadn't "invited" them all in, think how many decent innocent people would still be alive. I see the BBC is trying hard to put the blame on mentally affected Asians!

Alun- it's alright for these pinko leftie Grauniad readers to make excuses, but it wan't their families that were murdered or blown to pieces by the Religion of Pieces!
Report lfc1971 • July 25, 2016 2:02 PM BST
part of the problem facing us in regard to immigration is the dishonesty of leftists, it is almost their defining characteristic.
Anyone in favour of immigration from these barbaric countries should be required to house them in their own homes. parents with families should, if they favour immigration in this wild manner, should have to house someone, not of their choice but at random.
single people and the old and the young in favour of immigration on theis scale should be required, before they say that they welcome it, should also be required to house at least one, or more, in their homes.

it is easy to be sanguine if there is little possibly that it will be yourself who is murdered or maimed, if it someone else`s teenage daughter or son.

if something terrible happens, and the person that is housed kills complete strangers and not the people he lives with then those who gave him refuge should accept that they are also guilty and should be prepared to serve the sentence that courts in that country have for murder.

Until this is the official policy, and those in favor of mass and unregulated immigration from the most savage and barbaric parts of the world accept it as so, then they should not be allowed to pretend they are in favor and pipe down.
Report lfc1971 • July 25, 2016 2:05 PM BST
just read your post slicer and it is something that i was trying to say also.
Report Burton-Brewers • July 25, 2016 2:26 PM BST
it's alright for these pinko leftie Grauniad readers to make excuses

the rag is in trouble looks like it could fold
Report mecca • July 25, 2016 2:45 PM BST
If it does..... The staff will all be offered jobs at the BBC
Report rogerthebutler • July 25, 2016 3:03 PM BST
Alun- it's alright for these pinko leftie Grauniad readers to make excuses, but it wan't their families that were murdered or blown to pieces by the Religion of Pieces!

Except it almost certainly will have been.

I don't think suicide bombers / truck drivers / mass-murdering gunmen ask whether their victims are 'progressive', liberal types. They appear not to even ask, in recent cases, whether or not they are Muslim.

Everyone in range cops it
Report Wesdag • July 25, 2016 3:19 PM BST
The sad irony is that all what has now occurred was predicted at the time Merkel decided to open Germany's door to all and sundry.

Rational voices were drowned out by the easy cry of racism.

It's unbelievable to think that the decision that Merkel took to open the doors, an act which will have ramifications in Germany for generations, was taken without the consent of the electorate.
Report Slicer • July 25, 2016 4:00 PM BST
Mr Butler, if I was a betting man, I would bet that not one these human rights for the perpetrators type, Gruaniad reading  people who are citing mental illnes, lost anyone in the recent attacks! But of course, I don't gambol!

Europe takes these people in, gives them homes, health services, benefits AND THIS IS HOW THEY ARE THANKED! This scum want to die; we rational people want them to die; so can't it be arranged to make both parties happy before any more innocents are murdered!
Report Slicer • July 25, 2016 4:03 PM BST
By the way, in my home the Grauniad is already folded-just in case I run out of Andrex!
Report rogerthebutler • July 25, 2016 4:12 PM BST
Slicer
     25 Jul 16 16:00   
Mr Butler, if I was a betting man, I would bet that not one these human rights for the perpetrators type, Gruaniad reading  people who are citing mental illnes, lost anyone in the recent attacks! But of course, I don't gambol!


Really??

I'd say it was a certainty!

Okay, strictly to the letter I doubt if there are many Guardian Readers in Germany. But given the majority of victims were young Europeans, I'd have said that's exactly the demographic that were there with the 'refugees welcome' placards out last year.

However, don't for one moment think I'm disagreeing with your basic point. Let's say I'm right, then it beggars belief that 'progressive' types can't or won't see the folly of allowing refugees / migrants / criminals / terrorists (we're really going to have to come up with a good better collective noun) in.

They really are living in that Egyptian River aren't they?
Report Ozymandius • July 25, 2016 4:14 PM BST
Just be thankful that the gentlemen currently wrecking Germany no longer have the right to enter England.

I think you will find they still do, old chap.
Report Slicer • July 25, 2016 4:17 PM BST
Have you been to Egypt recently? Nothing can live in that Egyptian river, even the fish! A suggestion for the collective noun that encompasses all of those- MUSLIMS!
Report Slicer • July 25, 2016 4:22 PM BST
Talking about England- UK Border control has not recruited for many years. Yet the influx of migrants, tourists and terrorists has risen exponentially. Good ole England! On the news this morning-at busy times the Border Control officer has as much as 5 seconds to decide whether to investigate an entrant. Talking about gut feeling. my gut feel queasy every time I hear something else like this. Thanks go to MI5 whose efforts have kept us in the UK reasonable safe, even though it is just a matter of time before one of these grateful Muslim migrants thanks us personally!
Report Injera • July 25, 2016 4:24 PM BST
Mass immigration, uncontrolled, unregulated then throw in Schengen, Islam etc and you have carnage.

It was all so easily predictable. Sadly it brings out the worse in those on the extreme opposite of IS, namely that psycopath Brevik....

As for Merkel's Madness, it's time to admit some cultures are better than others. That's the total opposite of ALL liberal values but it needs to be said and fast. (Should have been said 50 years ago).

Immigration on an indutrial scale presupposes we're all the same. That's the biggest pile of horseshoite I've ever heard.
Report rogerthebutler • July 25, 2016 4:30 PM BST
Cultural Relativism

Has it's basis in Britain having to apologise for everything it's ever done in its history, no matter we gave the world pretty much everything that's lead it out of throwing rocks at each other.

Meanwhile FGM, Sharia Law, exploitation of immigrant workers on a quasi-slavery level and throwing homosexuals off tall buildings - well that's all oaky isn't it?
Report treetop • July 25, 2016 7:13 PM BST
For ebul and porcupine, read my post again and you will see i said 'clearly deranged' , I would never suggest that was logical behaviour but a mentally hanidcapped man may well reason that way,hence my implication,no more but no less.
Report akabula • July 25, 2016 7:40 PM BST
[i]alun2005
Breivik's actions were unspeakably bad. Hope that helps because some people here seem to be a bit confused about it.
What sort of lunatic could conceivably find comfort and enjoyment about the actions of Breivik and the carnage in Germany?[/i]

The Leopard but then again he's one of the biggest idiots on here.
Report Pokermonster • July 25, 2016 7:40 PM BST
I agree entirely with Injera's sentiments, above.  In my view the priority of any government, above all else, should be the protection and welfare of its own people.  Merkel and Hollande have failed in this duty with catastrophic consequences, how they have the damned gall to remain in office is simply staggering.

Due to their misguided and dangerous policies, countries across Europe are now a powder keg waiting to explode; ordinary, decent folk can only take so much.
Report akabula • July 25, 2016 7:42 PM BST
Great thread opener Alun especially and their staggering sense of entitlement.
No effort to integrate by some of these 'refugees'.
Report YOMOMMA • July 25, 2016 7:42 PM BST
You better get used to all these attacks in Europe. With war comes war refugees.

USA and NATO have taken out Iraq and Syria. Apparently leaked documents claim next on the list are Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran.
Report ZenMaster • July 25, 2016 7:44 PM BST
These do-gooders are not the 'progressives' they are the 'regressives'

Well meaning, naive, gullible, dope eek hunt regressives.

Now they have blood on their hands.
Send the feckers in to 'converse with the enemy'
Report lfc1971 • July 25, 2016 7:52 PM BST
one simple measure that could be taken would be to require any future refugees, if Europe is going to take any refugees (the UK can of course now follow its own policy) but to require any new people coming to Europe from alien cultures to renounce their muslim faith.
of course this may not be acceptable to some, but nevertheless it would at least be a start along the right road.
Report Injera • July 25, 2016 8:02 PM BST
lfc - that would be to suggest that Islam is in some way inferior to other or no belief systems. Quite a leap for our progressive (regressive) liberal elite to make.

You are though, bang on.

A return to national identities would be my angle. Again, totally opposed to liberal (we're all the same) type mentality. Ask all religous/atheist organisations to fly the flag and pledge allegiance. Cats and pigeons spring to mind....
Report lfc1971 • July 25, 2016 8:08 PM BST
consideration should be given to an immediate stop on the building of mosques anywhere in Europe. Algeria had a brutal and savage civil war in the 1980s...an attempt for power by the ialamists that preceeds the present worldwide crisis. And yes the islamists  were cutting off peoples heads back then.
Algeria has managed to escape the problems in this current era by means of a comprimise between democracy and the military. every mosque in that country is monitered by the military and nothing that happens within goes unnoticed
it is not ideal but they were so shaken by the sheer savagery of the islamists in the 1980s that they are determined to stop it happening again
Report rogerthebutler • July 26, 2016 8:13 AM BST
lfc1971
     25 Jul 16 19:52   One simple measure that could be taken would be to require any future refugees, if Europe is going to take any refugees (the UK can of course now follow its own policy) but to require any new people coming to Europe from alien cultures to renounce their muslim faith.


One much easier and straightforward one.

Any 'refugee' entering a new country has to say where he is from - and then identify a dozen sites local to that place from Google Earth images.

If he can't then he's lying.
Report mobo • July 26, 2016 11:42 AM BST
No.  Just don't let them in.  Hope this helps and they should start sending them the other way.
Report alun2005 • July 26, 2016 3:17 PM BST
I'm very worried about our very own Chit Chat contributor IAN M*hamm*d. He seems to have avoided Chit Chat since we had daily reports of his heroes, the Syrian Pretendy Refugees (and their already Euro-integrated brothers of Religious Peace) being responsible for a truly hideous Atrocity Tsunami in France and Germany this last fortnight.

Is he just busy with his own houseful of refugees, or is IAN ashamed about his extraordinary naivety? 

He certainly hasn't uttered a word of criticism of the Peace-Loving types he has publicly enthused about on here.

Maybe IAN's travelling in Germany and France, to go and see for himself in person just how these Multicultural Paradises are shaping up? If so, let's all pray IAN stays away from Shopping Centres, Railway Carriages, Seafronts, Churches, Quiet Alpine Villages, Pop Festivals and anywhere else that innocent people can expect to be butchered these days.
Report mobo • July 26, 2016 3:19 PM BST
Islamists celebrating in Munich as we speak
Report treetop • July 26, 2016 7:14 PM BST
I am wondering if the Archbishop of Canterbury is any further on to bringing a few Syrian refugees to live in lambeth palace yet ? He could be twitchy now.
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