Racism

I don't care about any colour but Islam is a vile religion that imposes itself in my face and needs eradicated.

If that is racism then so be it.

I'm with Oval.

in seperate beds i hope

You may as well just forget about any idea of eradicating Islam. The US couldn't even eradicate alcohol in its own country in the 1920s, and alcohol is something you can actually touch, so eradiciting what is basically an idea is about as realistic as, for example, Merkel's idea that you could let a million extra migrants into Europe without p*ssing people off. 

Both sides need to be more pragmatic imo.

Eh? We jump in their taxis and buy their kebabs. We accept Halal. Maybe by choosing where we shop we can make a difference.

Sorry, I thought you literally meant "eradicate". I agree we can buy fewer of their kebabs!

It's all about groupism in an evolutionary sense.  Groups have a better chance of survival than individuals.  Religious people (other than suicide cults, obviously) tend to do better in life than atheists because they belong to a larger, more coherent group (atheists don't gather together to celebrate atheism and cooperate).  Doesn't work if you're a Christian in the Middle East for obvious numerical reasons.  tbc

The Polish hate Muslims as much as Farage - this is the irony.

This forum has a great stench of racism about it, I have no problem saying that because it's about as transparent as a glasshouse.

Consider the consequences of groupism taken to the extreme.  The Jews have a history of persecution because they do not integrate.  Arguably persecution through the centuries has made them smarter and more successful than the average - though it may not have seemed that way in the early 1940s.  Seem to recall reading the number of Jews worldwide has just exceeded the number alive pre-WW2 (a surprisingly low number - 16 million?).  Islam also discourages contacts outside the group - hence arranged marriages, first-cousin marriages and honour killings for those who stray(and probably a tendency to sexual abuse of non-believers - hey, they are outside the group and don't count).  A large, relatively unsophisticated/inward-looking group of Muslims in the UK is a concern.  Intermarriage is key - the Indian community here has never given me cause for concern (bar their children outperforming the natives at school) - but do they intermarry to any great extent? 

If you look where the British 'invaded' during the years of Empire, we have big groups of descendants only where we virtually wiped out the indigenous populations - I'll give New Zealand a score draw.  Where are the big British enclaves in India/Pakistan/Bangladesh?  Certainly the African ones are being reduced.

We are genetically programmed to be groupist.  In many circumstances we can overcome this inherent bias through custom/familiarity.  But we do not act well when it becomes a contest for resources - overpopulation and shortages lead to strife.  This is beginning to happen in certain UK cities.

As ZenM pointed out, many of our non-indigenous groups don't get on - African v Asian, Asia vPolish, Indian v Pakistani, Turks v Greeks, Sunni v Shia, Sinhalese v Tamil, Jews v Muslims, Roma v everyone.  The white middle-classes can relax - they are just a side-show.

Reading an article the other week on the Neanderthals - apparently we have some female Neanderthal genetic material but no male - because we killed males and enslaved the females.  That's who we are.  There were several other H*mo species at various times - I doubt we killed them with kindness.

Tell the truth, who among you knew we had a community of 10,000 Gambians in Birmingham - mostly Muslim by apparently.

I've shopped at Morrisons. They have a polish foods section. Indian foods section. Chinese foods section. The polish food section is basically not needed because it's just the uk foods in a strange packet. polish lentils? sesame snaps. sauerkraut. noodles. choco wafers.
Polish are christians.

only difference is they speak a different language? WTF.

If you want to be a racist pick a bandit that is really different.

You know human history thoroughly, zorro?  Not superficially, or not at all?

It's a good post from Roger. & in reality very true.

the worrying thing is no one asked for this & no one knows where this runaway
train will end.

I'm just not willing to be a victim of my own politicians

who the **** is Roger?

the butler who opened the door to the thread

SH (sh - this is just between the 2 of us - were you someone else/thing?).  Wouldn't want to crush your vitals by mistake.  Amazingly, I make mistakes! Incredible.