Nigel Farage Speaking at the EU Parliamjent

Speaks the truth, thats why he's loathed ,some people, as Jack Nicholson would say ''Can't handle the truth''..

Spot on analysis dambuster

Well how refreshing was that. Sir Nige ripping the arse holes a new arse hole..

It's wonderful stuff isn't it?

Great swathes of 'suits' being torpedoed all over the place!

Politics has never been more entertaining than in the last few days.

- and I've had a constant smile on my face throughout.

Nigel Farage went into the bear pit and once again wiped the floor with his opponents.

The Scottish Nationalist MEP made as craven a speech as I have ever heard,listening to him begging and pleading was embarrassing.

I've yet to be given a reason why the Scottish Nationalists want independence from the UK but want to place itself under the yoke of the EU.

I'm gonna get lockjaw if Sir Nige gets up again..

said--none of them ever had a proper job

then asks for fair tariffs

IDIOT

It's wonderful stuff isn't it?

Not half it ain't.

Farage has rocked the establishment to it's foundations both sides of the English channel.

Love him or hate him, Farage has been perhaps the biggest single force in politics for the last ten years and he isn't even an MP.

He's been giving the same speeches for 17 years..

Got to agree with you, Dr C.

I disagree with much of Farage's mantra - but he's been one of the few people in politics who's stood firm to his beliefs all the way through the last ten years or so and spoken with eloquence and zeal to affirm them.

Hats off to him - and he's so very entertaining!

I'm an 'outer' purely on the grounds of Sovereignty.

The British people NEVER joined this Federal States of Europe tripe - they became a member of The Common Market with six other countries, which was manily a trade agreement.
And that was all.

No we can breathe again - without some kraut or frog telling us we can only use so much air.

Lord Farage has a nice ring to it!

Farage will go down history as a modern day Winston Churchill.

Lord Farage - what a guy.

Tweeter Alliss ‏@TweeterAlliss  · 4m4 minutes ago 

Tweeter Alliss Retweeted Nigel Farage

We'll probably see more of you now in the UK, though you're not an elected MP, so I guess not. What a shame.Splendid

He doesn't need to be an elected MP in Britain to bring the establishment to it's knees so i don't anything will stop him being seen.

*think

So are Scotland going to give up their seats in the House of Commons which they won due to our crooked Parliamentary system?

I am loving every second of it. The people might rise throughout Europe now that they can see that change is a possibility.

Le Pen also spelling out the truth, whilst the other spineless suits jiggle uncomfortably.

what he said to the EMPs about you laughed at me when I said Britain was going to leave the EU and you are not laughing now ......was famously said in 1942 by Adolph hitler about the jews

think its fair to say that's where he got his inspiration

this is gonna get interesting.

who advised farage to go especially as he is not even an mp?

masterstroke who ever allowed that

he's a member of the European Parliament they can't stop him from going, it's his job to go.

Nice of him to turn up to work for once.





Even if he looked like someone on a day out to Windsor Castle from his care home with his little flag. Childish f*cking moron.

More ba11s in his little finger, than the people on here, hiding behind their keyboard  criticising him

Yep, we certainly need more people moving out from behind their keyboard and venting their feelings in the real world. Like on a Manchester tram for instance.

Said the man from behind his keyboard.

Just out of interest, how would you compare the 'tram incident' with the grooming gangs, operating in so many cities I've lost count?

I'm sorry you're now having a conversation but seem perturbed I'm using a keyboard. Is this an act or are you genuinely thick?



Anyhoo, both pretty f*cking scandalous obviously. One certainly doesn't legitimise the other and the problem is those lads on the tram as well as the many, many other people doing similar (including the guy shouting racist abuse at my wife friday morning) feel emboldened and legitimised by the vote. A lot of people voted leave for genuine and pretty worthwhile reasons, unfortunately there's a lot of people who voted because they thought it was a way of "making Britain British" and while I wouldn't go so far to say every vote for Leave has been a legitimisation of this view, those people have taken it as such.

Thats not fair Kit Kat.  That doesn't count, they were all racially abused all their lives and knew no better, and thats the way they treat woman.......and i'm sure the tram incident was far far worse

By the way, if Nige ever wanted to see me I'm happy to say the same and more to his face. Civilly of course.



Someone will have to explain to him where "The North" is of course, first.

PorcupineorPineapple  28 Jun 16 13:59   

Childish f*cking moron.


And that tells us all we need to know about you and your opinions.

Jesus, that really the best you could do?

That's plenty good enough for the likes of you.

PorcupineorPineapple there has been a lot of these racist incidents in the past that have happened on buses, trains, underground etc. what makes you think that this tram video is in any way connected to the referendum result as the youths  mention nothing about it?

Of course there's always been racism, just as there's always been rape (as someone incredibly tried to link the 2 above).


If you're trying to deny though that there's been a sizeable increase in racist incidents (from the massively overt like the NF poster and the Manchester tram and the much more subtle) then you're hugely mistaken.

It seems the denial that started with Jo Cox's murder is still alive and well.

Of course there's always been racism, just as there's always been rape (as someone incredibly tried to link the 2 above).

I assume that's directed at me. Do you not consider the grooming cases not racist? Exclusively Asian groomers targeting exclusively white victims, smacks of racism to me.

"there's always been racism"

You say there's been a 'sizeable increase in racist incidents', could you back this up with some hard evidence please.

Well, I could give you hard evidence from people I know. With my work and the fact my wife is not British I have a lot of friends, acquaintances, friends of friends etc who are not British. The reports from them of what they're personally witnessing in the last few days is truly frightening. Seriously. From people they would normally have considered friends as well as random strangers. A neighbour of ours told my wife she should be packing her bags. Now she might have been joking, but if so it must have been very dry as my wife certainly didn't think she was joking.


For balance, a friend of mine living abroad's daughter just finished school and was told by a couple of teachers that she should now be going back home rather than go to senior school there.

No right minded person would find any of that acceptable and it should be squashed immediately.

I do feel however that whilst all the blame is being laid at the Leave campaigners door, the tendency of remainers in using racist as an all encompassing phrase, has itself ignited the situation and made thing worse.

I did rather enjoy Farage's speech. Particularly when someone who's only job was to work in a bookshop, told him off for suggesting that none of the people in the parliament had ever had proper jobs.

I share his contempt for the organisations behind the EU, but not the ideals of the project.

However, Farage has a much greater responsibility right now, than this tub-thumping silliness in brussels. He has, whether he likes it or not, co-opted and encouraged racists and racists sentiments, in order to achieve his aim of getting us out of the EU. I don't think he's the pariah the left make him out to be, I think his agenda has always been clear, but I do think he's encouraged or at best condoned, the sentiments of some pretty hateful elements of society.

The speech he really needs to make is to tell them to shut the f*ck up, and that the result of the referendum gives their bigotry no more legitimacy than it had before.

and anyone pretending that certain people haven't used the result to legitimise and embolden their bigotry is living is lalaland.

The hate in this debate has always been on the Left.

UAF  and Hope Not Hate threaten and intimidate opponents.

Lauren Southern was filming in London and got attacked by some masked thugs from one of those organisations.

i thought this was about tory,labour,buisnessmen,actor,pop luvies calling brexit voters racists ,and those flying st georges flags to support england racists

The Left, without a trace of irony, haven't hesitated to describe the older 'Leave' voters as 'racist' (there's a surprise).

Not a trace of 'ageism' about that naturally !  Perish the thought !

you're right of course, labeling all leave voters as small minded racists and xenophobes is a form of discriminatory stereotyping. but that's a strawman i'm afraid.

You cannot deny that amongst those who voted to leave, there are some nasty racists and xenophobes, who as a result of the outcome, now feel that their views have been approved.

emily thornberry a remainer was labled racist last year the labour party have been labled anti semtic,think you,ll find just as many closet racists on the remain side if you look hard enough

i don't understand what that has to do with the point i'm making.

Nigel Farage‏ @NigeI_Farage
can anyone help ? stuck in lift in strabsbeg parlyment #shatit

Without professing to know the details (perhaps someone here does), is it even remotely true that in the absence of a trade deal, "the consequences for [the EU] would be far worse than for [the UK]"? Because if not, it's a very stupid thing for Farage to say.

Surely if the EU wants to make life hard for us, they can.

Our trade deficit with the EU is billions per month.

The EU would like to a have a parting shot at us but European business wants nothing to change. We're a valued customer.

Hope Not Hate threaten and intimidate opponents.


Wildman - this organisation is a beneficiary of the Jo Cox memorial fund...

yep. Farage was addressing those statement primarily to the 30,000 lobbyists rather than the 751 MEPs.

Jun 28, 2016 -- 3:44PM, DStyle wrote:

you're right of course, labeling all leave voters as small minded racists and xenophobes is a form of discriminatory stereotyping. but that's a strawman i'm afraid.You cannot deny that amongst those who voted to leave, there are some nasty racists and xenophobes, who as a result of the outcome, now feel that their views have been approved.

Of course there are a few knobheads in the world. Did you not know that?

What are the options? Not have a debate or vote because somebody might get upset/get violent if they do/don't like the result?

Injera.

Not surprised at that,Brendan Cox acted strangely in this tragic affair,I'd imagine he's a member.

The liberal left have a mantra of 'talking to the enemy'
So does this only apply to Muslim mad men?

Angry aggressive white UK people should not simply be accused of racism.
If the liberal left want to educate/understand these types they need to address nativism which is never the word of choice.

Much of it isn't racism, much of it is aggressive nativism.

Shab, as per the posts that came before:

At best, UKIP condoned the fears and prejudices of these people, at worst it fueled and approved them.

I appreciate that farage was keen to court all sectors of the leave vote, because he wants to leave, that's what he's been campaigning for for 17 years, but to a degree, he let a genie out of a bottle, and has a responsibility to put it back in.

i'd say it's a bit more important than getting pissed or crowing in Brussels. I'm still waiting.

For many years now, to question immigration was to be accused of racism.

racism:
        prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

I would argue that to question the influx of other cultures, most notably those who purport to be Muslims is justified and not to do so is careless bordering on suicide. In my defence I would cite the following:

FGM
Honour killings
Segregation
General Misogyny (women dressed in black, men in white etc)
Terrorism
Abortion of girls
Halal
Intolerance of 'unbelievers'
Polygamy.

Good post Injera

I have received of abuse from Remainers who i know to be good people.
Apparently racism is everywhere and OAP's have brought in on themselves for abuse.

These are also the people who muttered not a jot about Rotherham.

xmoneyx 28 Jun 16 12:13 Joined: 12 Jul 11 | Topic/replies: 37,528 | Blogger: xmoneyx's blog
said--none of them ever had a proper job

then asks for fair tariffs

IDIOT


xmoneyx - stop misquoting the man - your as bad as the tabloid press




he said 'most' of you have never had a proper job

this forum is based on accurate un biased reporting -stndards Timothy!

I had to go and cut the lawn so missed Nige but I did record him and saw the earlier speakers.  The first few speakers were OKish to great (they knew the enormity of what had happened) - the Dutch woman (European Council of Ministers rep?) was inspirational - a couple of dozen like her in positions of power and I would embrace the EU.  Then it started to unravel - the 'no more Mister Nice Guy' German, the raving Italian Socialist, and so forth (the bearded, bespectacled Dutch guy?).  Nige I thought was fine - the BBC tried to say he was triumphalist - he wasn't.  He was one of the sanest there.  Loved watching those trying not to smile at his speech.  And isn't Marine wonderful?  I would.  Winter is coming indeed.

I will at a later date dispassionately analyse mass migration and it's inevitable consequences.  You just have to ask.

Good night, from the Voice Of Reason.

Jun 28, 2016 -- 6:33PM, DStyle wrote:

Shab, as per the posts that came before:At best, UKIP condoned the fears and prejudices of these people, at worst it fueled and approved them. I appreciate that farage was keen to court all sectors of the leave vote, because he wants to leave, that's what he's been campaigning for for 17 years, but to a degree, he let a genie out of a bottle, and has a responsibility to put it back in. i'd say it's a bit more important than getting pissed or crowing in Brussels. I'm still waiting.

How do you propose he puts it back in?

He is a libertarian, so he won't be telling people what they can or cannot do. It's not up to him to reign in all of the nutters.

These protected Muhammadan ***** in Rotherham and the terrorist plonkers are from countries like Syria, Pakistan and Ethiopia.  We'll get more of them because of BREXIT.  Europeans out, muslim nutters in.

brexit couldnt even understand a simple thing like the clydebank....they are gonna be lead like sheep by the wannabe adolf.

got  feeling we are turning into 1930s germany...........

And just to make one thing clear: Nigel Farage did not let the genie out of the bottle, that was the work of Tony Blair and Jack Straw when they flooded the country with cheap foreign labour for their own political ends.

I agree that Blair is indeed in part responsible for fueling anti-immigration sentiment through allowing unrestricted access to the eastern bloc of countries that joined the EU in 2004 (we were only one of 3 countries that did this) and doing nothing to address the transformation large migrants populations had on many communities, particularly in the agricultural towns of east england.

But, you do need to be careful in distinguishing between being anti-immigration and anti-immigrant (and for clarity let's just leave this with EU immigration). They are very different things.

so to make my point again:

farage has courted racists, people who don't like immigrants. This was the mistake of that awful poster. It was presented in such a way that it made the people the problem, not the policies and politics that enabled their movement.

He has at best condoned them, at worst encouraged them, so he can achieve his political ambition of leaving the EU.

His first responsibility on winning should have been to disown these people or at least condemn their sentiments. He probably feels he doesn't need to make these points, but he does, and he loses nothing by doing so.

If you were embarrassed by Farage yesterday, you can forward your thoughts to your MEPs via this excellent link:
https://www.writetothem.com/write
It takes just two minutes.

i would say that if anyone was embarrassed by what Farage did yesterday then they haven't been playing very close attention over the past 17 years.

there is also a ridiculous over-estimation of the importance of anything that's said in that chamber.

*paying

There's a lot of talk about how great Farage is but the reality is the absolute opposite he's a lazy politician who talks a lot
but does little.

Does little.
He singlehandedly got the referendum
He then won the referendum.

Will go down in history as the man who saved Britain.

Jun 29, 2016 -- 11:15AM, wildmanfromborneo wrote:

Does little.He singlehandedly got the referendumHe then won the referendum.Will go down in history as the man who saved Britain.

Yup abs brilliant

A massive achievement by Sir Nigel against the combined efforts of luvviedom and banksters amalgamated,some achievement by any stretch of the imagination.

https://www.writetothem.com/write

A great idea ub, just done that ! Not quite the tone you may have done though.

UKIP’s new election poster unveiled in Grimsby today highlights the plight of fishing businesses that have been ‘gutted due to the EU’.  Greenpeace has responded that UKIP’s voting record in the European Parliament and Nigel Farage’s appalling attendance on the Fisheries Committee makes a mockery of UKIP’s claim to be standing up for fishermen.

Over the three years that Nigel Farage was a member of the European Parliament Fisheries Committee, he attended one out of 42 meetings. Greenpeace research released today shows that during the three major votes to fix the flaws of the Common Fisheries Policy (CFP), Nigel Farage was in the building but failed to vote in favour of improving the legislation.

  In 2013, Nigel Farage was again present but chose not to vote on the part of the reform of the CFP that introduces an obligation on governments to give more fishing quota to sustainable fishermen who contribute the most to the local, coastal economies. This would see the government giving more fishing quota to local, low impact fishing fleets, such as the fishermen featured in UKIP’s poster.

Greenpeace is currently undertaking a two month, pre-election tour of English and Welsh coastal marginal constituencies asking MPs and parliamentary candidates to pledge to become coastal champions if they win the next election. At the event in Ramsgate in the constituency of Thanet South, all the parliamentary candidates except Nigel Farage attended and pledged that if they won the next election they would work their hardest to get more fishing quota for the many angry fishermen who were at the event

Nigel Farage has the lowest voting attendance record of any active MEP in the European Parliament.
But exclusive analysis of the MEP voting records shows that Mr Farage only turned up to 40.7 per cent of all possible roll-call votes between July 2014 and May 2016.

This places him 745th out of 746 MEPs from across the different EU countries on the register.

He has made his point abundantly clear and will have achieved far more for the fishing industry than any amount of coastal champions might ever do with Greenpeace.

So name his achievements  for the U.K  fishing industry?.

Brexit,no need for anything more.

Nigel Farage’s claim that leaving the EU would be good news for UK fishing is wrong. Fish don’t respect country boarders, so shared management of them is essential," said Griffin Carpenter, economic modeller with NEF.

“The evidence is overwhelmingly clear that the EU’s Common Fisheries Policy is working. While fish stocks were declining before EU management, many fish stocks are now growing, meaning more fish, more profits and more employment opportunities for our fishing industry," said Carpenter.

“Fishing for Leave argues that we’d be better off leaving the EU and negotiating from the outside, but time and time again we’ve seen negotiations with non-member states like Iceland and Norway break down and lead to unsustainable quotas or no quotas at all. We can and have changed policies from inside the EU.”

Brexit is a concept with no defined meaning for fisheries.

There are at least 2 years of negotiations which may or may not help
our fishing industry. Nigel may or may not have helped with yesterdays rant.

Breedingmad - so what you are saying is that if we get full control of our fishing rights (which I expect) then we will massively overfish and wreck the stocks again?

I've got another suggestion - why don't we talk to our EU neighbours and agree a sensible approach to fishing? Maybe something just like we have now - or is that too hard?

The point is we will now get less fishing rights

That is news to me - do you have anything I could read on the subject?

https://www.undercurrentnews.com/2016/06/15/report-farage-is-wrong-eu-is-hel...

We will have a 200 mile fishing zone meaning we could fish in Merkels fish tank if we wanted !

We will have a 200 mile fishing zone meaning we could fish in Merkels aquarium if we wanted !

Sounds better

UK fisheries chiefs warn catches will not increase with Brexit

British fishermen have been warned that, despite the promises made by the leave campaign, they cannot expect to be granted greater catches after the UK leaves the European Union, and they may face increased economic turmoil, reports The Guardian.

Fishermen will have to remain within their current catch quotas while the UK is still a member, and even if new arrangements are negotiated after a Brexit, they will not necessarily be more generous, fisheries chiefs and campaigners have warned.

British fishing fleets will still be bound by international agreements on fish stocks that must now be worked out, and which may not be to their benefit.

“Unfortunately, perhaps, the UK’s geopolitical position means that it is not politically or legally possible just to ringfence most of our fish resources, in the way that, for example, Iceland can. The reality is that most of our stocks are shared with other countries to some degree or other,” said the National Federation of Fishermen’s Organisations.

The UK can seek to renegotiate quota shares, as well as access arrangements, but it is realistic to expect that there will be a price, it added.

This price could, in theory, be subsidized by the government, or it could be borne by consumers, though this would depend on the price of fish to be imported, if UK fisheries are to remain competitive.

A spokesman for the European commission told the Guardian: “It is far too early to speculate on this question [of what will happen to fisheries]. That will be addressed in due course, once negotiations with the UK begin on its withdrawal agreement as well as on the agreement concerning its future relationship with the EU. For the time being, nothing changes.”

British fishermen have been warned that, despite the promises made by the leave campaign, they cannot expect to be granted greater catches after the UK leaves the European Union, and they may face increased economic turmoil, reports The Guardian.

Once you identify the source of your input I begin to lose all ocnfidence in your assertions. The Guardian would happily conspire with the EU to deny us fresh air if it was feasible.

It was taken from a UK Seafishing website who thought fit to put it on their site

My word breeding you are active, have you been sitting on here all day ? No wonder you have 15k posts in only two years ! On the point in question I will happily wait and see how it all pans out.

jed
im no blair fan....to me he was tory mark 2 leader.

but you cant really blame him.

businesses saw a loophole to boost profits and they took it.
when subprime came along they still used it , taking advantage of the situation in many cases.

they could have employed more uk workers but knew they could keep wages low because eu workers would accept lower wages.

also some firms or organisations did need workers....take the nhs....still short staffed and looking to asia to bring more in....

jed
im no blair fan....to me he was tory mark 2 leader.

but you cant really blame him.

businesses saw a loophole to boost profits and they took it.
when subprime came along they still used it , taking advantage of the situation in many cases.

they could have employed more uk workers but knew they could keep wages low because eu workers would accept lower wages.

also some firms or organisations did need workers....take the nhs....still short staffed and looking to asia to bring more in....

jed
im no blair fan....to me he was tory mark 2 leader.

but you cant really blame him.

businesses saw a loophole to boost profits and they took it.
when subprime came along they still used it , taking advantage of the situation in many cases.

they could have employed more uk workers but knew they could keep wages low because eu workers would accept lower wages.

also some firms or organisations did need workers....take the nhs....still short staffed and looking to asia to bring more in....

jed
im no blair fan....to me he was tory mark 2 leader.

but you cant really blame him.

businesses saw a loophole to boost profits and they took it.
when subprime came along they still used it , taking advantage of the situation in many cases.

they could have employed more uk workers but knew they could keep wages low because eu workers would accept lower wages.

also some firms or organisations did need workers....take the nhs....still short staffed and looking to asia to bring more in....

jed
im no blair fan....to me he was tory mark 2 leader.

but you cant really blame him.

businesses saw a loophole to boost profits and they took it.
when subprime came along they still used it , taking advantage of the situation in many cases.

they could have employed more uk workers but knew they could keep wages low because eu workers would accept lower wages.

also some firms or organisations did need workers....take the nhs....still short staffed and looking to asia to bring more in....

jed
im no blair fan....to me he was tory mark 2 leader.

but you cant really blame him.

businesses saw a loophole to boost profits and they took it.
when subprime came along they still used it , taking advantage of the situation in many cases.

they could have employed more uk workers but knew they could keep wages low because eu workers would accept lower wages.

also some firms or organisations did need workers....take the nhs....still short staffed and looking to asia to bring more in....

Jun 29, 2016 -- 3:29PM, Breedingmad wrote:

https://www.undercurrentnews.com/2016/06/15/report-farage-is-wrong-eu-is-hel...

Where does it mention us kicking out the HUGE Dutch trawlers 12 miles off Tynemouth? The fishermen from there are not allowed to catch fish and have to go right out into the North Sea.

Not any more.

ffs...how did that happen lol

G - only last week the Government cut funding for nurse training in the UK. We bring people in because we want to - it makes a great argument for immigration, doesn't it?