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I hope Brexit prompts a deep recession in England, rather than the wider world.
We all know it's going to painful, please let the hurt fall on the people who voted for it.
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Report gooroo • June 26, 2016 1:10 AM BST
a deep recession will only hurt those that cant cope with it,why would anyone wish that on anyone,please enlighten me
Report bankit • June 26, 2016 1:36 AM BST
Political insight and humour. We are all thankful abortion was illegal back in the day.
Report dukeofpuke • June 26, 2016 1:45 AM BST
i think the OP was a w@ank until his mother walked in
Report bodil • June 26, 2016 1:57 AM BST
Surprisingly little will change.  Why are people so fond of drama? 

There are worse things than Brexit in the queue.
Report casemoney • June 26, 2016 2:11 AM BST
If we got through billions being robbed from us by the Elite Banking type of Brit and other thieving Cxxts from around the world ,this will be a ripple not a tidal wave HTH ..
Report casemoney • June 26, 2016 2:11 AM BST
Laugh @ DOP
Report Ron-Russian • June 26, 2016 2:12 AM BST
Grin
Report portmanpark • June 26, 2016 9:10 AM BST
OP is stupid
Report TheBetterBettor • June 26, 2016 9:20 AM BST
Brecession.
Report twizzle22 • June 26, 2016 9:30 AM BST
Unitedbiscuits=GingerNUT
Report trilby22 • June 26, 2016 9:31 AM BST
Crumbs, imo.
Report trilby22 • June 26, 2016 9:32 AM BST
Cheesecake base?
Report wildmanfromborneo • June 26, 2016 9:34 AM BST
Opening Poster is a typical Remainer,hates Britain.
Report Breedingmad • June 26, 2016 9:39 AM BST
So all member states of the E.U hate their own countries?
Report chavman • June 26, 2016 9:40 AM BST
the annoying thing is the remain voters are so arrogant they think were all thick.

maybe i am for letting eastern europeans dominate the semi skilled job market for the last 15 years.

maybe i should move there to give them my house and work.
Report 1st time poster • June 26, 2016 9:43 AM BST
this is what the london remainers can get into their heads,this is not some abstract conflict in a far flung war zone where they can con the public into following them,people are living this everyday they no more about the effects of mass imigration than those running the country
Report xmoneyx • June 26, 2016 9:53 AM BST
I agree with OP,England is slowly crumbling
Report xmoneyx • June 26, 2016 9:54 AM BST
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jkhourystfx/status/746652680316137472/photo/1
Report Breedingmad • June 26, 2016 9:55 AM BST
Slowly suddenly got an awful lot quicker
Report mobo • June 26, 2016 4:28 PM BST
it is a wonder that UB can look at himself in a mirror

what an odious thing to say
Report ebulGery • June 26, 2016 4:30 PM BST
I agree there Mobo, what an awful thing to say
Report Kit-Kat-Dan • June 26, 2016 4:33 PM BST
Feeling a bit limp biscuit?
Report ebulGery • June 26, 2016 4:34 PM BST
Laugh
Report bongo • June 26, 2016 5:02 PM BST
If you're so in favour of subsidising landowners biscuits, which is the primary fiscal outcome of the EU being the way it is, then why don't you go out and subsidise them yourself?
Report dunlaying • June 26, 2016 5:10 PM BST
Broken Biscuits after the 1/8 loser.
Report Kit-Kat-Dan • June 26, 2016 5:14 PM BST
I reckon he’s bitten off Bourbon he can handle by starting this thread and is having Digestive problems.
Report terry mccann • June 26, 2016 5:20 PM BST
nice to see some of us are flying the flagHappy
Report Rockinron • June 26, 2016 5:21 PM BST
Quote -
"I hope Brexit prompts a deep recession in England, rather than the wider world.
We all know it's going to painful, please let the hurt fall on the people who voted for it"
EDUCATE YOURSELF - 
See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9cLwoTkWes
From an Italian .. Paolo Barnard, the most censored italian economic journalist, reveals the truth about BREXIT and the European Union.
This is for all you doubters !
Report trilby22 • June 26, 2016 5:28 PM BST
I would hope UB gets a bad case of constipation but I wouldn't wish bad things on anyone.

To each their own, I suppose.

Keep up the banana diet, Crumble Angry
Report bigmo • June 26, 2016 5:32 PM BST
OP proving he's a few crumbs short of a biscuit.
Report trilby22 • June 26, 2016 5:34 PM BST
We all know it's going to painful-
the wider world-
let the hurt fall


Your words, Cookie.

I hope they come back and bite you when you can't Shexit for a week Laugh
Report Injera • June 26, 2016 5:35 PM BST
Brilliant clip Rock - Thank you.
Report trilby22 • June 26, 2016 5:36 PM BST
Yes, I've saved that for later.  Thanks Rockin.
Report charwell. • June 26, 2016 5:56 PM BST
Yeah great video Ron.

Summarises what many of us have been saying in a nutshell.

But oh no all brexiters are stupid/racist and ignorant.

When the reality is that the Remain campaign are showing themselves to be precisely that. As well as ageist/undemocratic and a seething mess Laugh
Report zorrostrikes • June 26, 2016 6:08 PM BST
Been saying for Months that the Banks need a fall guy. Zero rates are artificial. INFLATION has been happening for ten years. But they've been pumping money into the system to stop us from realizing the game is over. LOANING money at zero rate is insane.
They have 50-70 trillion that is not linked to anything - its a Fking Fantasy.
a Paper mache society, nothing concrete.

It's been straining and the rivots are poppin. the EU referendum will take the blame. Not the banks. THIS TIME NOT THE BANKS.

CON JOB ECONOMICS.

POUND WILL BE POUNDED TOMORROW.
Report annie. • June 26, 2016 6:15 PM BST
Thanks, Rockinron, for the youtube clip.
Report annie. • June 26, 2016 6:18 PM BST
Agree mostly, zorrostrikes
Report Make my hay • June 26, 2016 6:57 PM BST
Anybody fancy some wine to go with their united biscuits?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slCLsKQcTNA
Report Dr Crippen • June 26, 2016 7:25 PM BST
What a nasty vindictive jealous attitude to take against people who were  acting in the interests of their own country, using the best of their judgement.

unitedbiscuits showing his true colours, and he lives here as well. So he's prepared to cut off his nose to spite his face.

That is the action of a bitter and serial loser.
Report unitedbiscuits • June 26, 2016 7:37 PM BST
You broke it, you own it.

The country has voted for isolation and poverty, the rest of the EU (and Scotland) need to make sure that they are not dragged down as well.
Report Dr Crippen • June 26, 2016 7:52 PM BST
Wishing misfortune and poverty on his own country, UB revels in the prospect of watching people getting hurt.

His writing here is an insight to what goes on in the twisted mind of a communist.

Take note and remember.
Report unitedbiscuits • June 26, 2016 7:54 PM BST
People are complaining that we don't have a Brexit strategy. This IS the Brexit strategy. Keep stalling on Article 50, sit in the EU like cancer and gamble that we kill the project. Make the whole world hurt through our grievance politics. It's a shameful position and I hope the EU prevail.
Report Dr Crippen • June 26, 2016 8:02 PM BST
Rubbish, we'll be up and running in no time once we've got a new PM in place.
Access to the European single market as well, with no political meddling in our own affairs.

All the world to trade with as we slowly leave the EU behind as it disintegrates.

We'll show Europe how it should be done like we always have in the past.
Report Dr Crippen • June 26, 2016 8:05 PM BST
Don't tell us we need Europe.
We used to run half the world when we had an empire.

Pity you can't jump on the train for the ride UB, it must be hard living on benefits when everyone else is having a good time.
Report terry mccann • June 26, 2016 8:08 PM BST
ub shame you cant see what a country we have,u will be proved wrong
Report boxingthefox • June 26, 2016 8:12 PM BST

Jun 26, 2016 -- 7:52PM, Dr Crippen wrote:


Wishing misfortune and poverty on his own country, UB revels in the prospect of watching people getting hurt. His writing here is an insight to what goes on in the twisted mind of a communist.Take note and remember.


Post of the week. Well said Dr C.

Report TheBetterBettor • June 26, 2016 11:49 PM BST
How do you know that people on here wanted to vote for Armageddon and World War 3.....


To some maniacs out there, that might sound appealing.  A real vote winner.
Report unitedbiscuits • June 27, 2016 11:52 AM BST
Remember them all saying "We'll get a good deal, we're the 5th largext economy in the world?"

Here's the magic of four days of Brexit.

http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/24/france-overtakes-uk-as-fifth-largest-economy-as-pound-plummets-5964746/
Report treetop • June 27, 2016 12:08 PM BST
Well said Dr C, the O.P comment is disgraceful and he should be ashamed of wishing anyone harm. Juvenile ?
Report alun2005 • June 27, 2016 12:12 PM BST
This thread will go down in the Hall of Shame of BF Forum postings. 

You could wish for no clearer insight into the minds of those in our country who would wish us suffering. And there are many of them.

But don't worry about the Opening Poster's financial well-being. As he has already informed us on the Politics Forum thread entitled "Forum whip round for UnitedBiscuits", there isn't a problem because "Me and my family will always be all right".

Just the 'innocent' poor, disabled and disadvantaged that have to suffer then.
Report mobo • June 27, 2016 12:15 PM BST
a nasty bit of work like UB needs to look at himself wishing poverty upon people
does he realise it will be the worse of that suffer the most but as one of the better off people(like so many remainers) he doesn't give a toss

an odious individual wishing that on people
Report pumphol. • June 27, 2016 1:02 PM BST
A typical one in the morning  probable drunken comment by the OP Crazy
Report rogerthebutler • June 27, 2016 1:15 PM BST
People are complaining that we don't have a Brexit strategy.

Who is this 'we' that should have put a strategy before the Electorate?

There is no 'we' with the power to effect any strategy. The Conservative government was elected by a majority last year, with a manifesto, an item of which wes a straightforward in / out referendum on our membership of Europe.

That same Conservative government are in power - they have now been given a mandate, however small the majority, to negotiate a bespoke deal for Brtain with the EU and with other countries. Cameron has, quite righly and honourably, resigned leaving the way open for a new leader who believes in our ability and now, our mandated right, to live outside the EU, to lead negotiations on that.

That is what was being voted for, certainly by me, regarding 'a plan'. Who the hell else could deliver an exit 'plan'?

The British Public have given our politicians - who work for us remember - the destination. It's up to them now how we get there in a way which is best for our country.
Report Coachbuster • June 27, 2016 1:22 PM BST
i came on here looking for crumbs of comfort  ,but the OP really takes the biscuit on this one . A definite fruit shortcake ,crackers  and not Nice . Probably a bit of a Boaster .
Report CLYDEBANK29 • June 27, 2016 1:26 PM BST
You are making yourself look an idiot ub.  I voted remain and think we've shot ourselves in the foot and the less well off will suffer most, but I sincerely hope I'm wrong.
Report CLYDEBANK29 • June 27, 2016 1:37 PM BST
When Labout appointed Corbyn I thought that was a result, I think virtually every non Labour remain voter did.  What I never considered, and I think no one else did, was that his incompetence would effect the BREXIT result. 

Now I hope that other unforeseen benefits arrive from this vote.
Report rogerthebutler • June 27, 2016 2:10 PM BST
Like Gisela Stewart becoming leader?
Report TheBetterBettor • June 27, 2016 2:14 PM BST
In Gisela's first victory speech...she was speaking in German.
Report rogerthebutler • June 27, 2016 2:22 PM BST
Nice touch!

Educated, classy and principled - it'll never work!
Report kevdartsking • June 27, 2016 2:24 PM BST
Unitedbiscuits ..... Well you do sound totally crackers
Report gawdalmighty • June 27, 2016 2:37 PM BST
UB lost a chunk of change, betting on 'Remain' and is still seething at his loss.

But on the subject of his/her pathetic comment, Wishing hurt on others will come back to haunt you 10 fold, UB, you have been warned  Wink
Report gawdalmighty • June 27, 2016 2:39 PM BST
...actually UB, are you that infamous woman who gambled on the wrong side and threw thousands on REMAIN? If so, can fully understand your hatred  Laugh
Report breadnbutter • June 27, 2016 2:51 PM BST
UB should be taken to the tower at dawn and halfed ,then halfed again and dipped in boiling tea
Report Kit-Kat-Dan • June 27, 2016 3:03 PM BST
UB lost a chunk of change, betting on 'Remain' and is still seething at his loss.

Don't you need to be 18 to place a wager? I assumed the sulky biscuit character was around 14 tbh.
Report bigmo • June 27, 2016 3:16 PM BST
Nevermind the Brexit, UK will emerge with a good trade deal


The British never wanted to be part of a German-dominated European federal super state.

The exit from the EU will allow the U.K. to reclaim parts of national authority that its political elites ceded to unelected Brussels officials free of any meaningful democratic oversight.


Tomohiro Ohsumi | Bloomberg | Getty Images
The British never wanted to be part of a German-dominated European federal super state.

The exit from the EU will allow the U.K. to reclaim parts of national authority that its political elites ceded to unelected Brussels officials free of any meaningful democratic oversight.

The scare-mongering about the end of the U.K. and the unraveling EU is meaningless. My guess is that the U.K. will do better that the unwieldy "union" of 27 countries whose leaders have yet to figure out where they are going.

But let's take a look at the U.K. first.

The first good sign is that the leave leaders are behaving in the tradition of the British battle cry: "Keep Calm and Carry On."

They are watching the fury and the confusion in Berlin, Paris and Brussels. The leading voices in these capitals are screaming for an expeditious divorce as a swift and exemplary punishment (yes, to deter other would-be exit followers), because the Europe's oldest parliamentary democracy spoke for the rest of the continent and dared to denounce the EU's failing ways.


Tomohiro Ohsumi | Bloomberg | Getty Images
The British never wanted to be part of a German-dominated European federal super state.

The exit from the EU will allow the U.K. to reclaim parts of national authority that its political elites ceded to unelected Brussels officials free of any meaningful democratic oversight.

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The scare-mongering about the end of the U.K. and the unraveling EU is meaningless. My guess is that the U.K. will do better that the unwieldy "union" of 27 countries whose leaders have yet to figure out where they are going.

But let's take a look at the U.K. first.

The first good sign is that the leave leaders are behaving in the tradition of the British battle cry: "Keep Calm and Carry On."

They are watching the fury and the confusion in Berlin, Paris and Brussels. The leading voices in these capitals are screaming for an expeditious divorce as a swift and exemplary punishment (yes, to deter other would-be exit followers), because the Europe's oldest parliamentary democracy spoke for the rest of the continent and dared to denounce the EU's failing ways.


In case you wondered, that is how low the ideal of European brotherhood and union has fallen. These muddled up and agitated minds in Paris, Berlin and Brussels will just create more chaos and alienate more people who were looking at the EU as a haven of peace and prosperity.

The leave people, by contrast, are playing with an uncanny gemütlichkeit. They are saying that they are Europeans, and that they just want to build a close European relationship of a different kind.

Will that work? All we hear now is that it won't.

U.K.'s trade and military trump cards

Well, maybe there is some prescience in there, but please take a look at these numbers.

The U.K. is by far Germany's most profitable export market. Last year, Germany's trade surplus with the U.K. came in at 51 billion euros ($56 billion), accounting for 34 percent of the German surplus with the EU. That surplus was also 42 percent higher than the German trade surplus with France, Berlin's largest European trade partner.

With its 89.3 billion euro worth of exports to the U.K. last year, Britain is Germany's third-largest export market, after the U.S. and France.

Will Germany give this up by shutting the U.K. out of a free-trade agreement with the EU? Of course it won't.

And here is another interesting story. You probably heard the Germans boasting about their booming China trade. Here is how booming that is: Last year, German exports to the U.K. were 25 percent higher than its sales to China. The big difference being that Germans made a huge surplus with the U.K., but their China trade recorded a 20 billion euro deficit – a fourfold increase from the deficit in 2014.

No wonder that Chancellor Merkel keeps saying that there is no need to be "nasty" with the U.K., while reassuring her compatriots that she would negotiate the U.K.'s exit from the EU with a great attention to German interests.

So, put this one up for the U.K.: It has a huge leverage in its trade negotiations with the EU.

The U.K.'s military power is another ace. All Europeans know and publicly recognize, including the French, that Europe's defense makes no sense without the well-equipped and well-trained British military forces. As a reminder of that, the NATO's Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said last Friday that the "U.K. will remain a strong and committed NATO ally and will continue to play its leading role (emphasis added) in our alliance."


Tomohiro Ohsumi | Bloomberg | Getty Images
The British never wanted to be part of a German-dominated European federal super state.

The exit from the EU will allow the U.K. to reclaim parts of national authority that its political elites ceded to unelected Brussels officials free of any meaningful democratic oversight.

ADVERTISING

inRead invented by Teads
The scare-mongering about the end of the U.K. and the unraveling EU is meaningless. My guess is that the U.K. will do better that the unwieldy "union" of 27 countries whose leaders have yet to figure out where they are going.

But let's take a look at the U.K. first.

The first good sign is that the leave leaders are behaving in the tradition of the British battle cry: "Keep Calm and Carry On."

They are watching the fury and the confusion in Berlin, Paris and Brussels. The leading voices in these capitals are screaming for an expeditious divorce as a swift and exemplary punishment (yes, to deter other would-be exit followers), because the Europe's oldest parliamentary democracy spoke for the rest of the continent and dared to denounce the EU's failing ways.


In case you wondered, that is how low the ideal of European brotherhood and union has fallen. These muddled up and agitated minds in Paris, Berlin and Brussels will just create more chaos and alienate more people who were looking at the EU as a haven of peace and prosperity.

The leave people, by contrast, are playing with an uncanny gemütlichkeit. They are saying that they are Europeans, and that they just want to build a close European relationship of a different kind.

Will that work? All we hear now is that it won't.

U.K.'s trade and military trump cards

Well, maybe there is some prescience in there, but please take a look at these numbers.

The U.K. is by far Germany's most profitable export market. Last year, Germany's trade surplus with the U.K. came in at 51 billion euros ($56 billion), accounting for 34 percent of the German surplus with the EU. That surplus was also 42 percent higher than the German trade surplus with France, Berlin's largest European trade partner.

With its 89.3 billion euro worth of exports to the U.K. last year, Britain is Germany's third-largest export market, after the U.S. and France.

Will Germany give this up by shutting the U.K. out of a free-trade agreement with the EU? Of course it won't.

And here is another interesting story. You probably heard the Germans boasting about their booming China trade. Here is how booming that is: Last year, German exports to the U.K. were 25 percent higher than its sales to China. The big difference being that Germans made a huge surplus with the U.K., but their China trade recorded a 20 billion euro deficit – a fourfold increase from the deficit in 2014.

No wonder that Chancellor Merkel keeps saying that there is no need to be "nasty" with the U.K., while reassuring her compatriots that she would negotiate the U.K.'s exit from the EU with a great attention to German interests.

So, put this one up for the U.K.: It has a huge leverage in its trade negotiations with the EU.

The U.K.'s military power is another ace. All Europeans know and publicly recognize, including the French, that Europe's defense makes no sense without the well-equipped and well-trained British military forces. As a reminder of that, the NATO's Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said last Friday that the "U.K. will remain a strong and committed NATO ally and will continue to play its leading role (emphasis added) in our alliance."


Now, try to apply the radical threat brandished at the U.K. that "out is out" when the East Europeans are clamoring for military protection, and the Americans and the British remain the only credible military force in Western Europe.

And that's where Washington comes in. In a speech at Stanford University on June 24, 2016 President Barack Obama said that "the special relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom is enduring, and the United Kingdom's membership in NATO remains a vital cornerstone of U.S. foreign, security, and economic policy (emphasis added)."

He also said that "the United Kingdom and the European Union will remain indispensable partners of the United States even as they begin negotiating their ongoing relationship to ensure continued stability, security, and prosperity for Europe, Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the world."

The EU's blind alley

The existing trade and defense ties explain why I think that the U.K. will have no trouble getting a deal it wants with the EU.

But the EU, and its future, is a much bigger worry. The union's leading tenors - Germany, France and Italy - have no idea what to do next, mostly because they are in a state of an intractable political disarray.

Here are the unpalatable choices they are facing.

First, a move toward further sovereignty transfers and a federal state - favored by some in the original six EU members - is out of the question because there is no popular support for that.

Second, the prevailing mood of the moment is the opposite: A loose confederation of nation states. That would whittle down the huge and democratically unaccountable Brussels bureaucracy, and it would repatriate a large amount of authority transferred to the EU Commission.

The only problem here is that such a loosening of ties that bind would be lethal to the monetary union whose credibility and survival require a federal state with a common fiscal policy.

But, sadly, that is a mission impossible for the present German, French and Italian governments.

The surviving German government is a political miracle of sorts. After last Friday's reconciliation attempt, the sister CDU and CSU coalition center-right parties are pretending that their ten-month old strife is over, but tensions and key policy differences remain as strong as ever. The Socialist SPD Party – the third coalition partner – is gearing up for general elections in September 2017 where they will be fighting against the CDU and the CSU. The confrontation is already reaching a fever pitch in the area of foreign policy, with disagreements on economic policy also ready to go public.

And then there is the French problem. The French press is reporting (without the official denial from the Elysée Palace) that Germany's Chancellor Merkel has put an end to the all-important French-German partnership, prompting the question of whether an isolated chancellor's influence is coming to naught.

The French seem to agree with that view. They are now building alternative partnerships with German and Italian Socialists. But that is of questionable value because France is in an acrimonious election campaign, punctuated by crippling strikes and months-long demonstrations. The country's Socialist president, polling at 15-17 percent, is the weakest and the most unpopular leader in the 58 years of the Fifth Republic. His center-right opposition also looks splintered and disorganized. Only the extreme-right anti-European Front National (FN, polling between 30 and 40 percent) seems well organized and emboldened by the British referendum, and by strong anti-EU forces gaining ground in Austria, Italy and the Netherlands.

Italy's erstwhile can-do Prime Minister Matteo Renzi is less so these days. An informal but determined coalition of center-right political forces just scored big in local elections, taking mayor's offices in Rome and Turin. The same group, coalescing around the Five Star Movement (M5S), seems ready to go again against the ruling Democratic Party (PD) in a vote on an outdated and destabilizing bi-cameral legislature next October. If he loses the vote – which now looks like a near-certainty – Mr. Renzi repeated last week that he would "resign and go home" to Florence.

That is the EU that the UK will be negotiating with about a free-trade in goods and services. And London will be doing that from a position of the EU's second-largest trading partner (after the U.S.), and the most powerful military and political force in Western Europe.

Investment thoughts

The U.K. now has the possibility of correcting mistakes committed over the last 43 years by allowing a creeping accession to the EU's centralized power structures. The UK's positioning in the "heart of Europe," as triumphantly claimed by the former Prime Minister Tony Blair, had nothing to do with London's original intent of joining a prosperous customs union and a unified market in an expanding European free-trading area.

The new British government can go back to its initial objective and negotiate with the EU a trading relationship it wants. Its trump cards are (a) a large economy, (b) strong trade and investment ties with the rest of Europe and (c) its position as one of the world's leading military and political powers.

Throughout that process, the U.K. is certain to have a full support of the United States.

Markets will gradually absorb all that and revert to fundamentals, after the bloodbath of last week's wrong trading bets.

The euro area has entered a period of worsening political disarray. Germany is living with an unstable government and rising Europhobic extreme right political forces. France is experiencing growing socio-political problems in the run-up to elections in May 2017. Spain is likely to remain in a state of protracted inter-regnum following this Sunday's elections. Italy is facing a distinct possibility of a falling government and a new round of chaos next October.

As long as its mandate lasts, the ECB will hold the fort and continue to nurse along the unfolding economic recovery.


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http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/27/nevermind-the-brexit-uk-will-emerge-with-a-good-trade-deal.html
Report zorrostrikes • June 27, 2016 3:25 PM BST
the jewish year starts in September...

1966/1967 - jerusalem in jewish hands again.
1973/1974 september - yom kippur war
1980/1981 Jews recognized by US courts as a legitimate race
1987/88 soviet jews freedom march/ stock markets crash
1994/95 oslo accords - palestine/israel agreement
2001/02 twin towers - first seal
2008/09 financial crash/ arab wars kick off - second seal?
2015/2016 total financial crash - Famine - third seal (venezuala/africa and other countries start to need more food)
2022/2023 pestilence
2029 tribulation
2036 earthquake - possible global occurance - earth rotation?
2043 possible huge meteor/fire/earthquakes
2051 god takes over forever.

let's wait and see...
Report Dr Crippen • June 27, 2016 4:03 PM BST
rogerthebutler  27 Jun 16 13:15

Good post.
Which spells out what everybody who is commenting on this issue should already know.
Report lfc1971 • June 27, 2016 4:14 PM BST
unitedbiscuits seems to have shamed himself here. Why are many of those who voted remain such a disgrace? i don`t know.
Report gooroo • June 29, 2016 8:00 AM BST
ttt the north remembers
Report alun2005 • June 29, 2016 6:04 PM BST
Less than a week after Brexit, the markets that the Lefties were pretending to be so worried about have now recovered the post-referendum losses.

Even The Guardian can't hide the good news.

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https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2016/jun/29/brexit-stock-markets-shares-higher-pound-business-live
Report atom burns • June 29, 2016 6:26 PM BST
how many of the remain would have got on the ship with christopher columbus ?
Report alun2005 • July 1, 2016 7:42 PM BST
How is Financial Armageddon going, 7 days on?

Anyone here singing 'Buddy Can You Spare A Dime' yet because of Wall Street Crash type losses?
Report mobo • July 1, 2016 7:55 PM BST
carney's effort on the box the other day was hysterically funny - looked like he was chewing a wasp
Report alun2005 • July 1, 2016 8:10 PM BST
Did I miss the Compulsory Emergency Budget that had to take place the moment that Britain decide to 'Leave' the EU ?

Perhaps someone could direct me to the Treasury website pages where the measures are published, and I'll have a look at them when I've finished keeping up with Meet Brussels EuroPayBabes website.

No-one's going to stop ME trading with Belgium or stop me forging alliances between our two great countries.
Report bigmo • July 1, 2016 8:50 PM BST
referendum result, the pound has fallen. But a weaker currency is exactly what the Bank of England wants, says John Stepek. Here’s why.

There’s not a central banker in the world who wants a strong currency at the moment.

The US Federal Reserve has held off raising rates because it doesn’t want to see the dollar any stronger. The Chinese want the renminbi to devalue (and they’re quietly, gradually managing it).

The Bank of Japan is looking in despair at the strengthening yen. The European Central Bank is crossing its fingers and hoping that the euro won’t rally.

But one man’s absolutely laughing.

Mark Carney, governor of the Bank of England…

Carney: oops, I did it again

The pound had a bit of a bounce yesterday, on the news that Boris Johnson had decided not to run for UK prime minister after all.

You could argue that it’s because this increases the chances of someone fairly neutral on Brexit, like Theresa May, becoming prime minister. That in turn increases the chances that Brexit will look a lot like remaining in the EU.

Alternatively, you could argue that it was just part of the ongoing process of markets getting a grip on reality again after the shock to the system seen last Friday.

Whatever the reason, sterling was on the rise. And then Mark Carney, central bank boss and custodian of the nation’s currency, kicked the legs out from under it.

Carney gave a speech yesterday afternoon. His basic point was as follows. The UK has made a leap in the dark. There will probably be a recession. In fact, Britain is already suffering from “economic post-traumatic stress disorder”.

I can’t fix this, he said – it’s up to politicians to do so. “There are limits to what the Bank of England can do. In particular, monetary policy cannot immediately or fully offset the economic implications of a large, negative shock.”

But, he added, he will try to make the monetary policy backdrop as forgiving as possible in the meantime. He said that he reckons there’ll be justification for lowering interest rates over the summer months.

That’s all it took. Sterling fell by more than 1% against the dollar, down to $1.32. Meanwhile, gilts fell into negative territory. It’ll now cost you a fraction of a fraction of a percent to lend money to the UK government over two years. (And on that point, nearly $12trn in global government bonds now offer negative yields – astounding).

A weaker currency is exactly what Mark Carney wants

Wow. The UK government can now charge you in order to look after your money. Brexit has supercharged the bond bubble and made Britain even more of a safe haven than it was deemed before.

That’s odd, isn’t it? Bear in mind that one of the epic scare stories from before the Brexit vote was the idea that the Bank of England would be forced to raise interest rates and thus borrowing costs, even in the face of a recession, in order to defend the pound and prevent capital flight.

But as it turns out, the Bank of England governor can’t talk the currency down fast enough.

Make no mistake, Carney would have been well aware of the impact of his decision. The pound went down because he wants it to go down – if he didn’t want it to fall, he’d have made a different speech.

A weaker currency translates into looser monetary policy. It draws trade and investment from other countries. As Ambrose Evans-Pritchard notes in The Daily Telegraph, it’s “a shock absorber”, just as it was “in 1931, 1992, and 2008, all bigger falls, and all benign”.

(It also appears to have triggered bargain hunting from anyone rich with a dollar-linked currency burning a hole in a back pocket. A Sotheby’s art auction this week raised more than expected, reports the Financial Times, with “international investors… swooping in” to exploit the “ridiculous opportunity” created by Brexit, according to Philip Hoffman of art investment adviser Fine Art Group. Fine wine merchants have also reported soaring sales to Asian buyers.)

As Evans-Pritchard continues: “Every major country is trying to push down its currency to break out of the [deflation] trap, and largely failing to do so.” Britain didn’t deliberately vote Brexit to drive down sterling – but we have “stolen a march of sorts, carrying out a beggar-thy-neighbour devaluation by accident”.

It’s ironic. It’s probably not what Mark Carney wanted. And I’m not sure his task will be that easy. I suspect that the pound’s preferred “natural” direction at the moment would actually be flat to higher. And other central banks are unlikely to tolerate Britain hanging on to the much-coveted currency wooden spoon for long.

But for now, I reckon Carney will make damn sure that he takes advantage of the stupendous excuse he now has to talk the pound down without fear of being taken to task by his peers in other countries.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • July 1, 2016 9:08 PM BST
The most important factor is that if the cons elect Trees of May then we are back to square 1. Sad
Report Kit-Kat-Dan • July 1, 2016 9:22 PM BST
Agent Carney of the Remain Regiment's 5th Column was last seen standing amongst the enemy's ranks, whilst waving a false flag and pi$$ing on the truth.
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