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So when will that start then?
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Report Ibrahima Sonko • June 25, 2016 11:20 AM BST
who claimed £350m ?

I only read about £100m
Report Wallflower • June 25, 2016 11:38 AM BST
It wont. 

It was a mistakeHappy. Ah well, .........
Report Breedingmad • June 25, 2016 11:42 AM BST
A very convenient mistake..
Report Ibrahima Sonko • June 25, 2016 11:43 AM BST
when do taxes rise ?

Im pretty sure osbourne said that the day after brexit he will have to raise taxes.
Report A_T • June 25, 2016 11:54 AM BST
I'm very excited about the extra £350 million for the NHS. Gonna be brilliant.
Report Kriskin • June 25, 2016 12:02 PM BST
What a STUPID question by the opening poster?  When will it start?  A lot of stuff needs to be done before this can be implemented.  It will take a few years
Report Kriskin • June 25, 2016 12:02 PM BST
A T - there will be more good things than just the NHS
Report Zazu • June 25, 2016 12:04 PM BST
Any extra money would just be wasted on agency staff on insane wages anyway
Report A_T • June 25, 2016 2:00 PM BST
What a STUPID question by the opening poster?  When will it start?  A lot of stuff needs to be done before this can be implemented.  It will take a few years

Seemed a reasonable question to me. Anyway I am delighted to hear that all the £350 million we give to the EU will instead go the NHS.
Report Wallflower • June 25, 2016 2:14 PM BST
Kriskin -

OP seemed to pose a reasonable question to me. But it has been answered. It was untrue. So people just have to forget about it (its a different, and very serious, question how both sides could freely peddle gross misinformation).

Its clear UK Govt / Leave campaigners don't know what happens next - especially Farage!, and of course the UK immediately has made shapes at stalling - understandably to calm things down. Uk may be thinking we will leave when we are ready - but this is a very problematic.

I stated this on another thread, based on my own experience yesterday...

I work for a large US Financial Company/Bank. Mail straight away yesterday morning. Paragraph 1 - assuring all staff of commitment to UK. But then Paragraph 2 - as they are a EU legal entity (as most of big US firms in Europe are) - some roles will have to move, this will be detailed by end of July and timeframes in placePlain. Typical US company - bang! just like that, no messing about. Cash is king.

Not even waiting for the actual exit in 2-3-4 years time.




Business and markets will want certainty and clarity - the pressure will build from business and industry, as well as a "pissed-off" EU, as well as staunch Leave campaigners. Very difficult balancing act - never mind the internal pressures from Scotland, N.Ireland

The only thing I don't get (but could be wrong) - is it allowable that the other 27 countries are meeting and excluding UK? UK hasn't even applied to leave yet. Just wondering
Report TheBetterBettor • June 25, 2016 2:18 PM BST
The junior doctors will want that in their paypackets or they will take the country up to ransom again
Report charwell. • June 25, 2016 4:09 PM BST
So when will that start then?

............probably about the same time as the 'anti-austerity' budget the nation was threatened with materialises.

My diary says that budget is on the 12th of never.
Report ZenMaster • June 25, 2016 4:19 PM BST
When was £350 million a week promised for the NHS?
Report A_T • June 25, 2016 4:21 PM BST
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/secondary/Boris-Johnson-5...
Report A_T • June 25, 2016 4:22 PM BST
Looking forward to that all that extra money for the NHS
Report Jack Hacksaw • June 25, 2016 4:27 PM BST
Some confusion here, I think.

The Leave campaign aren't the government and Bo Jo and Farage aren't the Chancellor.
Report ZenMaster • June 25, 2016 4:27 PM BST
Sounds like a suggestion AT.

Plus Osbourne is the Chancellor, plus we are still in it. Innit?
Report ZenMaster • June 25, 2016 4:30 PM BST
Jack Hack

I've heard people today moaning that the only reassurance the Leave team are offering is for us stay in the EU for another 2 years!

As soon as you mention Cameron and Osbourne are now steering the Leave ship their eyes glaze over!Laugh
Report A_T • June 25, 2016 4:45 PM BST
Boris is shtting himself. Leave actually winning wasn't part of the plan.
Report A_T • June 25, 2016 4:48 PM BST
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/secondary/Boris-Johnson-574738.jpg

When you're PM Boris just make sure that £350 millions goes to the NHS. Wink
Report Rydal • June 25, 2016 4:53 PM BST
Here is another one.

http://infacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Battle-Bus.jpg

Isn't it good of that nice Mr Juncker to offer to let us have the money straight away (provided we p1ss off out of it of course!). I can't understand why the Brexiteers aren't biting his arm off.

I'll get back to my Irish passport application form....
Report Rydal • June 25, 2016 4:57 PM BST
Do you think that they might help us with this one as well:

"Cornwall votes for Brexit then pleads to keep EU funding"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-cornwall-issues-plea-for-funding-protection-after-county-overwhelmingly-votes-in-favour-of-a7101311.html
Report G1_Jockey_4 • June 25, 2016 5:20 PM BST
now it appears the scottish parliament hold the key to eu law in scotland and not westminster Laugh

also view this.

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/746466834610692096

looks like brexit voters have been duped even more
Report ZenMaster • June 25, 2016 5:34 PM BST
G1_ Jockey

If the Remain side are so educated, sophisticate and wise and you believe the brexit voters have been duped, then WHY did the Remainers FAIL to MENTION it BEFORE the VOTE!Laugh

WHY are REMAINERS pointing OUT things NOW!Laugh
Report ZenMaster • June 25, 2016 5:35 PM BST
Seems the REMINERS are a bit SLOW!Laugh
Report ZenMaster • June 25, 2016 5:35 PM BST
Or even

The REMAINERS are a bit SLOW!Laugh
Report charwell. • June 25, 2016 5:37 PM BST
Smug, deluded and over confident = large slice of humble pie + egg on the chin for pudding.
Report ZenMaster • June 25, 2016 5:50 PM BST
Instead of ignoring the open door policy, they pointed fingers and screamed 'racist'

NOW, only now they are interested in the single market free movement of 'workers' situation that may be.
WHY did the Remain side NOT point this out to the Leave voters BEFORE the referendum?

No, they opted for the 'immigration is good for everyone because immigrants are net contributors and our NHS would lose them (not true) and if you don't believe us we will convince our supporters that you are racist!'
Report Rydal • June 25, 2016 6:04 PM BST
So when do we get the £350 million a week on the NHS?
Report guinness2dear • June 25, 2016 6:09 PM BST
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Report ZenMaster • June 25, 2016 6:24 PM BST
So when do we get the £350 million a week on the NHS?


Are you a simpleton?
Report TheBetterBettor • June 25, 2016 6:27 PM BST
Report TheBetterBettor • June 25, 2016 6:40 PM BST
Rydal 25 Jun 16 16:57
Do you think that they might help us with this one as well


Tata steel bidders are saying ta ta to wales because of Brexit
Report ZenMaster • June 25, 2016 7:15 PM BST
Thebettorbettor

The blond Turk is not the chancellor of the exchequer.

I thought you would know this.
Report zorrostrikes • June 25, 2016 7:20 PM BST
upto two years to convert VHS to DVD.
Report Rydal • June 25, 2016 7:59 PM BST
So when do we get the £350 million a week on the NHS?
Report Ibrahima Sonko • June 25, 2016 8:04 PM BST
you do realise we have to leave the eu first ?
Report TheBetterBettor • June 25, 2016 8:05 PM BST
More than 110,000 people have signed a separate petition on the Change.org website, calling on new London mayor Sadiq Khan to declare the capital independent from the UK and apply to join the European Union
Report Rydal • June 25, 2016 8:08 PM BST
Late News:

"Guarantees wanted over the future of European millions"

Read more: http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/guarantees-wanted-over-the-future-of-european-millions-1-7982120#ixzz4CcU0WKml

Juncker had better hurry up and kick us out soon so we can all spend this money - and have £350 million a week on the NHS.

Of course, it must be true because the Brexiteers said it....
Report Ibrahima Sonko • June 25, 2016 8:14 PM BST
Are you fishing ?, leaving the eu wont make a difference to free movement of Europeans to the uk ?
Report Rydal • June 25, 2016 8:20 PM BST
The question is whether leaving the eu will generate the £350 million a week for the NHS that we were promised - day after day - by the Brexiteers; and, if so, when we get it.

Everyone has gone very quiet on this.
Report maleuk01. • June 25, 2016 8:21 PM BST
ZenMaster   






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G1_ Jockey

If the Remain side are so educated, sophisticate and wise and you believe the brexit voters have been duped, then WHY did the Remainers FAIL to MENTION it BEFORE the VOTE!Laugh

WHY are REMAINERS pointing OUT things NOW!Laugh

They were to busy calling everyone racists before the referendum Laugh

The NHS is just 1 of the things the £350m could be spent on.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • June 25, 2016 8:24 PM BST
we dont know, you dont know. It was part of act, like ww3 was for the remain.

Who knows what is next, but i trust the british people to do what they have for centuries. You should have confidence in a nation that is an island that have resources all over, will come good.

Sadly the youth dont have any connection in being British.
Report A_T • June 25, 2016 8:36 PM BST
Boris stood on a platform in front of a banner saying in Brexit Britain there would be an extra £350 million per week for the NHS. He needs to deliver on this when he is PM.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • June 25, 2016 8:37 PM BST
at, you need to do some homework, the quote was about the uk giving the eu 350m each week, they pointed out that we could spend some of it on home soil, or are really  that stupid ?
Report boxingthefox • June 25, 2016 8:42 PM BST
at is still going on about the 50p he lost on a no hoper in a seller at plumpton in 1988. GET OVER IT!!
Report A_T • June 25, 2016 8:43 PM BST
The Brexit campaign clearly thought the UK public would be stupid enough to believe it. It was basically a lie.
Report A_T • June 25, 2016 8:44 PM BST
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/nigel-farage-350-million-pledge-to-fund-the-nhs-was-a-mistake/

Ah so it wasn't a lie - just a mistake. That's okay then.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • June 25, 2016 8:46 PM BST
are you not grateful for the nhs, the uk already spend 110B on it, not sure 18b is really going make everything brilliant.
Report Rydal • June 25, 2016 8:47 PM BST
Ibrahima

Sadly the youth dont have any connection in being British.

The world changes and society changes. Youth today have a far more global outlook, are less xenophobic, welcome outsiders, and want to visit, enjoy and explore other countries and cultures. When I was a child in the fifties, we had one child in the entire school (about 300 kids) who wasn't from Britain or Ireland. At secondary school (about 500) there were three including a german lad who - with our impish liverpudlian wit - we nicknamed "Hitler". Things have changed.

This can be hard for us older people to cope with.

However, the elderly (and the unemployed and white van men) haven't got much better to do on a Thursday than vote - and differential turnout is what has swung it.

We are making ourselves feel good by f..king up the lives of our kids and grandkids, telling ourselves that it is for their good in the long tem. Being British is different from what it was when we were younger.

If this exit is not handled well, it will lead to what you want - net migration. Unfortunately, this may be achieved by many of our children and grandchildren leaving the UK. My kids and their friends are searching for birth certificates that demonstrate that they are entitled to an Irish passport. Don't think it is not a risk - over the years, many other countries (France, Ireland, Venezuela, Argentina, Germany... ) have - at times - lost a major part of their most mobile youth.

I would like to keep in contact with my kids and grandkids and currently they - like most of their fellows - can't understand why we have done this.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • June 25, 2016 8:52 PM BST
Dont you understand that the luxury of your (& mine) kids was provided by the uk being a superb democratic country and the parents having spare money ? (unless you think different then the conversation is pointless)

There has been no exit, just a vote.

Which part dont you understand about us wanting to leave ?
Report Rydal • June 25, 2016 9:11 PM BST
Which part dont you understand about us wanting to leave ?

I do understand that and I respect that view, as I respect the outcome of the referendum. My problem is that it has been achieved by a campaign of staggering lies (£350 million is the icing on the cake) and emotion aimed at a profile who are much more likely to vote, and who just sneaked home.

My kids are comfortable - it is me who lives in luxury, funded by student grants, interest on mortgage tax relief, inflated house values produced by planning constraints, "triple-locked" pensions, pensioner bonds, free prescriptions, bus passes, additional tax allowances for dividends and interest, while we leave our kids a mountain of debt.

As I said, if this exit is not handled well, it will lead to what you want - net migration - and many of us (maybe even you) may lose contact with our kids and grandkids.

This is what is happening:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/eu-referendum/brexit-belfast-post-office-runs-out-of-irish-passport-application-forms-34830144.html

Not "Project Fear" - just reality.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • June 25, 2016 9:20 PM BST
Clearly i didnt think the 350m bit being a vote winner, im doubtful that the public thought that also as that little money would always end up in managers and agencies, well i hope they realise that.

When they were quoting the 350m it was about a figure that could be spent more wisely, whatever they spend it on is not that important imo.

lol, someone runs out of 40 forms and you call it news ? (youcouldnotthishsitup#)
Report Rydal • June 25, 2016 9:23 PM BST
What do your kids think?
Report Ibrahima Sonko • June 25, 2016 9:28 PM BST
My kids are all for europe.

But they had an upbringing of never celebrating being british, i could go into detail why this is, but i think you would call me a lunatic.

My lickle daughter posted earlier that the people that not long to live are ****s.
Irony of it all, is that daughter has moved up because of her grandparents and parents, it seems they all want it on a plate.
Report charwell. • June 25, 2016 9:29 PM BST
My daughter (in the final year of primary school) told me she would vote out after argyuments from both sides were discussed at school.

I hadn't mentioned Brexit or which way I was likely to vote.

So she is pretty happy now thanks Rydal Laugh
Report Rydal • June 25, 2016 9:33 PM BST
The final year of primary school may just give you a clue as to why that is Charwell.

IS - make your peace with your daughter. It will make you much happier.

As to the Brexit aftermath - #becarefulwhatyouwishfor is worth following.

Good night.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • June 25, 2016 9:41 PM BST
Me & my daughter are fine, she likes the fact we are not both braindead. We both pretend to be really intelligent, the problem is that she is super smart, but she has no experience of life.


I dont want peace with my daughter, i want interaction, not fake cuddles at rydal do.

My family is superb, she can call me a kooont anytime she wants, the next day she borrowing my lawnmower.
Report ZenMaster • June 25, 2016 9:43 PM BST
AT

When Farage appeared on Breakfast TV with Suzanne whats her face? he had been up 24 hours due to  the referendum. He was well fu@ked.

He should have reminded Suzanne what's her face that NO pledge had been made and it was only a *suggestion* by Boris and his advertising team.

Plus Nidge should have politely reminded Suzanne that he was not the chancellor of the exchequer and he also not Boris Johnson.
Report paddletoe • June 26, 2016 4:45 PM BST
I have the evidence of that statement still on a poster a mere 5 metres from my house.

The wording was very specific with the words nhs in bold capital letters. It read...

We send £50million to the eu every single day.
Lets spend it on the NHS instead.

They don't seem to be in any rush to repatriate that money and give it to the nhs. That's assuming that that money will be saved with no costs suffered anywhere else. And that's a big assumption to make.
Report A_T • June 26, 2016 5:05 PM BST
They don't seem to be a rush to do anything. You would think ending the deal with the EU would be urgent but apparently not.
Report Kriskin • June 26, 2016 5:10 PM BST
How can they rush anything?  Even Merkel wants everybody to slow down
Report Kriskin • June 26, 2016 5:15 PM BST
If u have the skills that a country wants then u have NO problem getting in.  The US & Australia welcomed me in the last 10 years as they needed people with my job skills.  Nothing will change regarding that.

I wish the people who voted remain and YES u lost please just go away and accept that.  That is what a democratic vote is all about
Report Jack Hacksaw • June 26, 2016 5:15 PM BST
Yeah, its really urgent.  Will take 2 years.
Report kincsem • June 26, 2016 5:23 PM BST
The £350 million was Boris bullshit.
The xenophobes swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.  Know your prey, use the correct bait.
Report charwell. • June 26, 2016 5:39 PM BST
The 'remain' campaign was squeaky clean of course:

Government leaflets posted to urge us to vote out. Promises of expensive holidays and plunging house prices. A brutal austerity budget (which we still await whilst Osborne tweets about people 'coming out').

And 52% of people are stupid/racist Crazy

Wake up and smell the coffee and stop sucking bitter lemons. The nation has spoken now quit the whinging and man up.
Report kincsem • June 26, 2016 6:04 PM BST
Your problems are of no concern to me.  I don't live in the UK.
Report charwell. • June 26, 2016 6:16 PM BST
So your input is worthless then and of no concern to us. Don't bother posting with your cynicism.
Report zorrostrikes • June 26, 2016 6:16 PM BST
WHAT THE F - WAIT TILL WE ARE OUT YOU IMPATIENT TITS.

two days after the referendum ?

did you want someone to write a cheque the day after?

muppets.
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