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topshot
19 Jun 16 09:44
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It was being used to film a house across the street from him, and for some reason the guy controlling it took the drone over the road over my mates house and it was hovering in his garden.

His wife went out to remonstrate with him but it was to late he blatted it with a shotgun, totally destroying it....£1500 worth.

The police don't know what to charge him with as there has supposedly been no cases in the UK that they can base their case on.They now want to offer him a caution but as of yet he hasn't accepted it.

I just wish I was there at the time

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By:
Just Checking
When: 19 Jun 16 10:09
There are legal rules about drones, off complete top of my head 50m from "people" is the rule I think?
Amongst many others? As minimum. I might be wrong (though it's rarer than a Ronaldo penalty miss).

Blatting it out of the air with a shotgun might be frowned on.. but I'd not convict, I'd encourage it.
By:
A_T
When: 19 Jun 16 10:47
deserves a medal
By:
Deltâ
When: 19 Jun 16 11:00
'friend'

shot down

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yeah, right ...
By:
TheBaron
When: 19 Jun 16 11:05
He owns the air space above his property so the only issue is discharging a firearm.

Get a catapult and some proper ammo, it'll do the job.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 19 Jun 16 11:08
Are there some regulations regarding using guns near public spaces, roads etc?
By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 19 Jun 16 11:10
If your privacy is being violated, you can take action using the concept of invasion of privacy, just like if anyone was using a cellphone to record you in a way you believed to be inappropriate. So surely anyone would have their rights regarding an unlawful robot intrusion !

However, blasting away with a shotgun, doubt it, but as you say no previous case to base this on, not in the UK anyway. We need some new laws to keep pace with technology, and balance the rights of drone owners against people’s rights to privacy.
By:
topshot
When: 19 Jun 16 11:15
Just spoke to him whilst cutting grass this thing was hovering a few feet from his daughters bedroom and he has no regrets, quet rightly
By:
topshot
When: 19 Jun 16 11:22
For the disbelievers
Taken from facebook

usually disagree with you Paul Bohan but I think it is outrageous. It is a total misuse of a firearm, to think of someone in town has access to something so lethal is a real concern. He is a States member and should have more common sense. S...See more
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Peter Allen
Peter Allen Sorry Mel but you are talking rubbish, Private property is exactly that, private!
What a person does on their private property is their business, not yours!
As to the firearm, it is a shotgun! With the range limitations of such, perhaps you should chec...See more
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Peter Allen
Peter Allen I, and I'm sure the majority of people think Steve did nothing wrong.
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Bill Walden
Bill Walden So Pete, let's get this right. You think that because the drone was flying ABOVE Steve's property that he had the right to destroy it? Let's assume that that someone parks their car on your property, up at your field maybe. Does that give you the right...See more
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Peter Allen
Peter Allen Bill talking rubbish again!If a dog gets amounts animals you have a right to shoot it, if a person drives a car into my garden and has people inside it looking through my windows i would remove it any way i could!I wonder what your comments would be ha...See more
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Melanie
Melanie Peter...That is a simple question. Just ask the person to stop, if that fails then speak to the police.
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Peter Allen
Peter Allen perhaps Mel it would have been the right thing to ASK Steve before flying over his PRIVATE property/garden/house and potentially filming through windows and into doors.
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Peter Allen
Peter Allen On the point of safety, there are lots of regulations regarding drones, and proximity to airports it could be said "thank heavens Steve stopped this flying device before it caused a serious accident involving a passenger plane. I wonder if mr Perks had permission to fly his drone near a commercial airport?
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By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 19 Jun 16 11:22
there is a law about discharging a firearm near a public highway, I can't remember if it's 50ft or 50yds.
By:
akabula
When: 19 Jun 16 11:32
Good on him. Should be applauded for his actions.
By:
Racingqueen
When: 19 Jun 16 11:42
should be named in the new years honours list imho
By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 19 Jun 16 11:45
Case like this in America. A teenage girl was sunbathing in her backyard in Kentucky when she saw a drone equipped with a camera hovering overhead, something that she, quite reasonably, found creepy, so she got her father......

Dad's statement: "I went and got my shotgun and I said, “I’m not going to do anything unless it’s directly over my property.” Within a minute or so, here it came. It was hovering over top of my property, and I shot it out of the sky. I didn’t shoot across the road, I didn’t shoot across my neighbor’s fences, I shot directly into the air.

You know, when you’re in your own property, within a six-foot privacy fence, you have the expectation of privacy. We don’t know if he was looking at my daughter. We don’t know if he was looking for something to steal. To me, it was the same as trespassing."

He was arrested and charged with wanton endangerment and criminal mischief.

(I didn't know what 'wanton endangerment' was, googled it and it means creating a situation where another person is at risk of death or serious injury. Confused But it was a robot (????)
By:
Just Checking
When: 19 Jun 16 11:51
Drone over your property = target.
By:
dunlaying
When: 19 Jun 16 12:34
It is only a matter of time before there is a tragic incident caused by one of these abominations and then it will be "lessons to be learned" time again.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 19 Jun 16 13:03
I find myself in agreement with people I usually argue with. I have a 9K32 Strela-2 at hand, should anyone fly a drone over my house.
By:
Muntz Street
When: 19 Jun 16 13:09
I agree with pretty well everybody!

Hound Dog, I'd guess that "wanton endangerment" refers to the possible harm caused to people by a drone falling out of the sky onto them.
By:
topshot
When: 19 Jun 16 13:23
At the moment it seems the worst charge will be wilful damage...£1500 for the drone, and the police still have his shotgun.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 19 Jun 16 13:45
he needs proper legal advice topshot, if he accepts a caution they might be able to oppose his license renewal.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 19 Jun 16 13:54
So some guy with a drone is more dangerous than a nutter with a shotgun. The guy with the drone should be given a warning but the guy with the gun should be jailed and have his gun license took off him.
By:
themightymac
When: 19 Jun 16 13:58
Nutters like him shouldn't be able to own a firearm. He must have a short fuse if the first thing he does is grab his gun when a gadget hovers over his house. Spare a thought for guy driving the Google car if it passes his front door.
By:
Just Checking
When: 19 Jun 16 13:59
I think morally it depends what is downwind of the shotgun, if it was safe, and especially his property - good luck to him.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 19 Jun 16 14:01
Maybe this should go to court as there is privacy laws and firearm laws to deal with. It could well set a precedent.
By:
topshot
When: 19 Jun 16 14:01
Hardly a nutter hes had a gun all his life, he is now in his 60s and fired straight up into the air, also believe it or not he is a local politician.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 19 Jun 16 14:03
you won the air above your house to a height of 1800 feet .

I was ready to shoot  down a  paraglider - told him to get off my land  Devil
By:
Coachbuster
When: 19 Jun 16 14:03
own *
By:
Coachbuster
When: 19 Jun 16 14:03
the levels are set lower  where you are above sea level
By:
Coachbuster
When: 19 Jun 16 14:04
it's as low as 56 feet in the Highlands
By:
Ovalman.
When: 19 Jun 16 14:05
So if some kid annoys him then grab the shotgun? The police are here to deal with issues like this, not to grab the first weapon and go shooting. The firearm discharge is far more serious than whatever motives were behind the drone.

The guy certainly doesn't deserve to own a gun, that's for sure.
By:
cooperman
When: 19 Jun 16 14:07
I take the view that the drone owner would find it quite easy to say he was filming something else and momentarily lost control of the aircraft, causing it to be flying over the property of your neighbour.

Shooting it down constitutes Criminal Damage at the very least and discharging a firearm in a residential area could lead to serious charges.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 19 Jun 16 14:17
Id say i monetarily lost control of my gun.

F the drone owner.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 19 Jun 16 14:18
Erm, momentarily.
By:
akabula
When: 19 Jun 16 14:20
He's lucky it wasn't in Liverpool.
They'd have shot him and stole the drone.
By:
topshot
When: 19 Jun 16 14:22
To be fair to the drone owner he has done some stunning footage of the our coastline and fortifications, but not sure why he was filming someone's house....the owners must have asked him to do it I guess
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 19 Jun 16 14:23
couldn't care less about the rules, somebody was violating his personal space, will teach him an expensive lesson.
By:
Just Checking
When: 19 Jun 16 14:24
"I take the view that the drone owner would find it quite easy to say he was filming something else and momentarily lost control of the aircraft"
Drone pilots have regulations.
They should either be observing themselves and a second watching them, or just observing themselves,
always someone observing.
Also they tend to move in an extremely controlled manner. **** them, the pilot, and the poncy you tube video he wanted to make.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 19 Jun 16 14:27
But it still doesn't give anyone the right to discharge a weapon. The gun crime is a far more serious offense. The guy certainly doesn't deserve to own a gun if he takes it out every time something rattles his cage.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 19 Jun 16 14:29
Also, lets assume he did in fact 'momentarily' lose control. Do we think the OPs neighbour was stood w8th a gun in his back yard on the off chance that a drone may randomly pass over his house?
By:
Dotchinite
When: 19 Jun 16 14:35
Id assumne he has no chance of getting his gun back now unless his house was a farm surrounded by his own fields.
By:
lfc1971
When: 19 Jun 16 14:42
very good shot, why has the owner of the drone not been arrested?
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