ISIS don´t represent Islam

Good point Davy

It's not muslims from all strains of Islam who join or support IS. They're a bunch of Wahhabists as are most other really nasty islamic groups. Which begs the question why Saudi Wahhabists are allowed to build mosques in Europe?

Not really a fan of other strains of Islam either I might add, but Wahhbism is the worst as far as I can tell.

That's true.The thing is over half of all mosques in Britain are controlled by the Deobandi sect.It's an ultra conservative form of Islam which the taliban amongst others follow.

That's....a problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deobandi

This is a great podcast on who they are.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07766zw

It's not just them though is it, there are dozens of groups with similar ideas blighting many countries right from western africa to the far east. It's NOT one small one off, that's the thing your thick lefie cannuts cannot get into their head.

You hate ISIS you have few enemies, you hate ISLAM you have lots of enemies

The choice is yours?

thick leftie

Point proven.

ISIS use terrorism in Europe, therefore they must be the enemy.

It is tough enough dealing with these, don't make more enemies.

We are already their enemy Ebul according to their Holy Book.

Again my post is censored it is difficult for me to express an opinion.

Not much I can say other than get on with it.

Difficult to fight a religion

Better than giving in to it.

The % of people of that particular religion who in opinion polls express beliefs that civilised people in 2016 find abhorent is quite frightening. It's not xenophobic to question its expansion here, it's stupid not to.

ISIS is Islam.

People confuse things because they know some Muslims who drink and don't cover up their women,what they don't realise is they are lapsed Muslims.

wildmanfromborneo, hi, having lived in London for many years I know exactly what you are saying, but when push comes to shove they are as complicit by inaction, or reaction, as the worst of them.

Btw, the the Irish slang word containing 2 xs Fcked me completely.
Woods for trees, nearest to church further from God, etc. I felt nextto an Amadon, luckily I was standing next to my ex at a christening.

Next to, ffs

On the sauce boxing?

No JS, just meds, same difference some cry, Wildman knows exactly what I'm saying. but I understand the reason for your cheap shot, you are better than that, your history proves it.

JS, FFS, I'm medicated to the eyeballs, but at least I can still spout absolute shyyyte, on an anonymous forum populated by peopled with madeeeey up names. GN JC/guys "if you lose your cash, never lose your dash" in racing 50 years ago that had a great resonance, also, "when boys win money they're men (Warwick/Roida, post your bets et fckin cetra0  as soon as they lose it they are boys again. Plenty on here like that.

foxy, you know i love you man but have you heard of the westborough baptist church? (sorry for spelling ive falen off the wagon)

JS,   was just about to turn this confounded (old fart face voice) machine off, how are you, well and winning I hope.

Boxing, you're coming across a little "izzard on question time" in your lack of a filter :)

Just asked Mr-n- Mrs Google about them, don't hate, just have a smoke, as a non smoker that surely proves my factness/Ianess. If you don't get that then fckin get up to speed.

JC, pay no attention to me, I really should not be on here, just waiting for my various meds (heart etc, to kick in) which they obviously have, Just banter, no malice intended. Be lucky. As for Izzard.......... GM. I'm offski

Good night, no offence meant

FFS GN!!!

None taken JC. I'm 30 seconds behind every reply, now I really will fck off

foxy after fearing you may be about to shuffle off from this world its great to here whatever you have to say even if i disagree.

please can someone explain the word winning, its not been part of my vocabualary for months 

i want some of your meds, what are they old boy? although you do seem to be a bit agreeable which is boring for chit chat

I didn't realise you were genuinely ill, sorry
Just assumed it was a sat night watching the football and had a couple, like the rest of these miscreants

he was ill and we all feared the worst, fortunately the old fart has had a second wind and it sounds like he's got years to go. i've not been here long but found him most welcoming, long live foxy

as i say ive been here not long but i feel i know the old codger well enough to say dont be sorry, he loves us all, even those he disagrees with. vive la foxy (you old fart)

he's one of the good guys (put my cheque in the post if you are still alive you old fecker!)

akabula  • June 11, 2016 10:51 PM BST 
Better than giving in to it.

I could not argue with that akabula

But you see the more you bring religion into this the more you empower groups like ISIS

I think ISIS are evil, they need to be destroyed end of, I care little for their beliefs.

Even if you judged them on a religious basis they would not even have a case anyway, not in my opinion.

I see a struggle going on here, which is deeper than religion.

Religion is being used that is all, by both sides.

Good after jollyswagman "he's one of the good guys" thank you for those kind words, proof indeed that 'you (one) can fool most of the people most of the time.

ebulGery "Religion is being used that is all, by both sides". has organised religion ever been anything other than a controlling mechanism exploiting lost souls.

indeed boxingthefox

But our modern Media is doing the same, do you think our thoughts are our own?????????????????????????????

"do you think our thoughts are our own" you will need to ask me that when I am having an out of body experience, Astral travel saves a fortune on petrol you know, A great question, requiring a greater consciousness to answer other than a mere mortal shackled by a lousy few senses and a concept on time and space that are wonderful for orientating in the physical plane, but pretty crap otherwise.

orientating* orienting??

We can be either masters or slaves of our conception, always assuming that is, that we have a real choice, and not a learned or imagined one.....................I think I'll stop now, nearly caught my own tail there, scary!!!