Wool

http://investigations.peta.org/argentine-wool-farm-lambs-mutilated-exposed/

sorry is there a message there?

Shouldn't that be BILLIONS of deaths each year The Chaser?

I'm an animal lover, but PETA are bunch of extremist nutcases who seem to do as much harm as good.
Breadnbutter you make some good points. If not wool, what? Hemp? Reed jumpers made using basket weaving skills?
If there as no wool, a by product that allows sheep to live relatively happy lives for a few years, and you exclude meat and knowing PETA, milk, there would be no need at all for sheep.

Foinavon 08 Jun 16 18:20 Joined: 11 Oct 00 | Topic/replies: 4,425 | Blogger: Foinavon's blog
Shouldn't that be BILLIONS of deaths each year The Chaser?

Yeah but i ain't any good at photoshop

By the way, the video I posted was not the one that came with the e.mail, so it's not an isolated incident.

This is the one

http://www.peta.org.uk/action/chile-wool-industry-exposed-video/?utm_campaign=Chile%20Wool%20Email&utm_source=Action%20Email&utm_medium=Promo

WARNING

ou’ll Be Shocked by the Way Wool Is REALLY Produced

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Sheep were mutilated, kicked, cut and stabbed on farms that sell wool to a UK company that supplies JCrew, Coach and others.

Sixty per cent of the wool produced in Chile, including wool from the farms you see in this video, is sold to UK-based Standard Wool Ltd. If you buy wool, this is what you could be supporting.
Lambs Torn From Their Mothers

An eyewitness documented that lambs were separated from their mothers soon after they were born and cried out pitifully.
Lambs jumped through the fence in an attempt to return to their mothers’ sides, but workers dropped them back over the fence to keep them apart.

Lambs jumped through the fence in an attempt to return to their mothers’ sides, but workers dropped them back over the fence to keep them apart.
Mutilated Without Pain Relief

Workers notched and punched holes in the lambs’ ears. To remove their tails, workers either cut them off with a dull knife, sometimes requiring up to five slashes, or tightly banded them – one worker told the eyewitness that banded tails would fall off after a month. All this was done without any pain relief.
Workers used this device to punch holes through lambs’ ears.

Workers used this device to punch holes through lambs’ ears.
This lamb’s tail was cut off without any pain relief.

This lamb’s tail was cut off without any pain relief.
Cut, Kicked, and Struck With a Rake

Sheep were crammed tightly into sheds before being sheared. As is common in the wool industry, rough, fast shearing left many sheep cut and bleeding. One worker poured oil on a sheep’s bleeding wound, and another sprayed a sheep’s wounds with insecticide. Workers also kicked, shoved, stomped, and stepped on them, as well as striking them with a rake to push them out of the shearing shed. The eyewitness never saw the animals receive any veterinary care, even for gaping wounds.
Sheep were packed into tight sheds before being sheared.

Sheep were packed into tight sheds before being sheared.
Fast, rough shearing left sheep cut and bleeding.

Fast, rough shearing left sheep cut and bleeding.
Destined for Slaughter

Sheep who were no longer wanted for their wool – including the animals seen below – were marked with paint to indicate that they should be sent to slaughter. Workers also tightly tied some unwanted lambs’ legs together and shoved the young animals onto a flat-bed truck bound for slaughter, where they thrashed around, banging their heads against the floor as they tried to escape.
This sheep was marked for slaughter.

This sheep was marked for slaughter.
Some lambs’ legs were tied, and they were loaded onto a truck bound for slaughter.

Some lambs’ legs were tied, and they were loaded onto a truck bound for slaughter.
Killed and Skinned Alive

Workers stabbed fully conscious sheep in the neck. The sheep kicked and struggled as they bled to death. One worker took out his mobile phone while a sheep – pinned down by his knee – fought for her life.

This dying sheep seen below was carried into a room to be skinned and continued to kick for two minutes. Video footage shows one sheep who was literally skinned alive.
A worker cut the throats of fully conscious sheep who were no longer wanted for wool, causing them to kick and struggle as they bled out.

A worker cut the throats of fully conscious sheep who were no longer wanted for wool, causing them to kick and struggle as they bled out.
Sheep were lined up after their throats had been cut, and some of them continued to move for several minutes before dying.

Sheep were lined up after their throats had been cut, and some of them continued to move for several minutes before dying.
Help Us Stop This Cruelty

The cruelty documented at these Chilean sheep farms is not unique, and similar abuses have been documented in the United States, Argentina and Australia – the world’s largest wool exporter.

Don’t forget the gentle sheep who suffer in the wool industry all around the world – choose clothing that doesn’t contain wool.
Please share this shocking footage to help more people learn the truth about how wool is produced.

fukin ****

Sheep cruelty video sparks RSPCA investigation

Animal rights group releases covertly filmed video it says shows abuse in shearing sheds across three states in Australia

Rifer than you think, breadnbutter.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/11/sheep-cruelty-video-sparks-rspca-investigation

I'm against animal cruelty for sure, but the alternatives need to be looked at from all angles. Cotton isn't always an acceptable sustitute for wool, and synthetic clothing can be very problematic for the environment like Breadnbutter says. It's a major source of microplastics in the oceans, which is a major environmental problem that causes suffering to marine life! Every time you wash synthetic clothes you realease lots of microfibers that aren't stopped by treatment plants and they end up in the ocean. Not good. Could be better to try and stop sheep cruelty than to increase production of synthetic clothing. Or maybe there are synthetic fibers that are all right for the oceans? What other non-synthetic alternatives are there?

Here's an article about the problem with synthetic clothing if anyone is interested:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-10-20/laundering-that-fleece-sweater-makes-the-planet-dirtier

Feck me Kenny ,i am not condoning it i am just saying i dont see the logic in stoping world wool production because of one video ,it looked contrived to me ,worst sheep shearers i have ever seen ,noone should be dumping animals down like that ,they seemed to not know what they were doing and looked angry to boot ,summit aint right thar ,cant be stopping the worlds wool production on that evidence.

here is the sheep shearing i know and have seen ,once seen one with a knick in the lug but that one you posted looked like a blood bath ,butchers imo ,not how it is done and they guys need prosecuted ,no way is that normal animal husbandry.
your still  a  crazy troll though .

sheep shearing done properly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMkCdc6MQio

watch that film i posted for ye ,Black Sheep

i do love a leg of lamb ,and love my merino winter base layer,socks and tank top and silly hat with a bobble ,leather shoes ect ,sorry but i am a bit of a traditionalisterist when it comes to that stuff

Can't speak for sheep shearers   ,but  i remember meeting by chance  some blokes who worked at a Co-opertaive slaughterhouse  -  all a bunch of morons  - you wouldn't trust them to walk your dog .
I do wear wool and i have to trust where it comes from involves a lack of a cruelty -  but none of this surprises me  -   remember how lambs /calves were treated during the Essex ports protests  - people just don't give a sh1t .

Humans don't look after themselves  ,hardly going to give two hoots torwards a so called lesser species 

All i'm meaning to say is boycott the places where wool is used from places where sheep shearing is cruel, or where there is evidence of cruelty. Not that hard if you do some research. I'm even checking out Marks and Sparks, which hopefully is ok, but a lot of their stuff is made in China!

Trouble is people are too apathetic. Turn a blind eye and pretend cruelty doesn't exist, or in a lot of cases aren't bothered. I do my research when things are pointed out to me.

sent to j.crew earlier, who are mentioned in my opening post.

Hi, PETA sent me this mail, would you like to comment please. Obviously as a reputable company you are unaware of the horrific methods by which wool used in your products is obtained.

Regards

sent to M@S

Hi, which country does the wool used in your products come from please?

I have seen some horrific footage and read some awful stuff about how wool is obtained, and although M@S is extremely reputable you can’t see everything, or can you? Do you have your own inspectors at these sheep shearing places to ensure the animal is not hurt in any way? So which country/s and where exactly in that country is the wool obtained?

Many thanks

Probably the best way to help Kenny as most companies have a good reputation to uphold and won't want it tarnished.

Peta are a bunch of twats.

Read some of the comments on this vid...

https://youtu.be/duukkZfDM7s

I was looking at some sheep in a field today. Looked very happy. They get sunshine, fresh grass, virtually no predation, help with birthing and child rearing, medical treatment. Surely have a much less stress free and a much happier life than their ancestors or wild counterparts do.