Donald Trump reeling in Clinton polls show....

Surely when it comes to putting your point across this is Donalds strong point, against
someone like clinton - be an absolute walkover you would think

trump won the republican nominee because of his stance on immigration.........if he didnt make that speech about the mexicans he may not have won..........his speech about banning muslims also helped......latter will cost him no votes in a gen election........the former will.......hillary is also very popular with the blacks.
this means trump will have to win about 70% of the white vote..........he will have no problems getting 70% of the white mens vote...........not getting enough white women will probe just cost him the white house IMO........i like trump, cause hes very felexible.......hes not a right wing loon on wars (despite what the liberal press here will say), health or taxes..........i would vote for him if i was an american.
fox news is split on trump.......those who also work for teh establishment think tanks etc hate him., cause trump wont throw them any bones if he gets in. the politically incorrect types on fox like him though cause they are sick and tired of listening to the growing victim culture in america...........every campus student thinks someone is to blame for everyone elses problems........

Good post bdj

I've not been following it but apparently CNN been slating Trump & givin bias
news towards Clinton - Similar to what the BBC been doing here i guess

trump should go after hillary on two issues

1. libya..........when hillary debated saunders she made a very strange statement on libya..........saunders was getting stuck into her on bombing gadaffi and hillary said it was very difficult not to do it when u had very leader in europe calling her and asking her to do it..........this shows huge weakness..........bombing a country in africa just because someone else wants u to do it?????????? as usual america doing dirty work for teh french, germans and italians...........these interventions have been catastrophic and trump should tear into her on this
2. the 20 trillion debt america now has thanks to obama..........given hillary and obama are similar, how is hillary going to get this down and will she condemn obama for this debt

Sod all to do with Mexican speeches imo. Trump is the outsider -- same as Ukip and the SNP here, and Corbyn winning the leadership. Same as Bernie Sanders too, who is giving Hillary, the ultimate Establishment insider, a run for her money.

Same as Austria today, come to think of it -- where the presidency is between the far right and an independent.

The key to the USA will be which way Bernie's supporters jump -- to Hillary as the Democrat or to Trump as the outsider?

I hope Sanders supporters jump to Trump.

If the Americans want to keep their guns vote for Trump, Clinton may try to have the guns off them.

I think Trump has some god ideas, nobody else has. I would hope he gets in, but of course it is up to the Americans themselves

We have no say.

I may be doing Clinton a disservice, she may make a good president, but I would have no confidence in her.

the right to bear arms is in the constitution so guns is a total non issue.......background checks etc will do nothing.........if a 21 year old with a clean record can buy a gun then anyone can get their hands on them.....someone bought gazza a bottle of gin last week............no different.

I think we need some change & for me Trump could be the answer, Clinton will just
be like Cameron/Merkel etc - We need someone to do something different/say the things
the majority think, but dare say.....rather than getting walked all over.

Trump seems genuine & if he gets in the temporary muslim ban will be put in place.

Trump may not B everyone's cup of T but I'm an ABC.

i love trump............and dont believe the propoganda by the guardian etc that hes a fox news fav............HES NOT............he is dead centre on social economic justice........just cause hes a billionaire does not mean he is right wing nut..........he also believes in free health care for everyone...........he cant say that now because hes running as a republican.......but he did say in one of his debates that no one in america will be dieing on the streets when hes president............of course he cant implement such a scenario but he hates the health insurance companies..........he has made some nasty comments about them
he is also a secular person, despite saying he loves the bible (he had to say that)........he couldnt care less about religion............there will be no toe curling speeches about jesus and god and that is something very good indeed
the only thing i have against him is what he said about the mexicans.......its not right to make such a generalisation and that statement will hurt him...........it will allow the left wing mafia victims to label him a racist.

The fact he is a billionaire means he has succeeded in life. He does not need to be President.

A lot of these career politicians go into politics because they are not a lot of good for anything else. I see that with our

politicians

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  35m minutes ago
The American people are sick and tired of not being able to lead normal lives and to constantly be on the lookout for terror and terrorists!


& the British

Trump seems genuine & if he gets in the temporary muslim ban will be put in place.

you can't seriously think that will happen???

I agree that would have been a mistake to generalise about the Mexicans bdj. But there is problem with Hispanic immigration.

It is the price of Americas success, people from South America think the streets of the USA are paved with gold.

We have the same problem in Europe, with Africans.

Ron

Did you mean they should be on the look out for the British Ron,  or we British are also on the constant look out for terrorism.

Sorry, of course the 2nd, I was checking.

I am always blamed for being a Muslim apologist, but in doing this I am looking for a solution to our terrorist threat.

We need ideas, I think Trump has them. Probably a lot better than mine

Trump is a demagogue. He won't win, which is fortunate for him as he has promised a redneck wishlist of policies he hasn't any chance of enacting.

Well if that's what he's saying & gets a lot of voters onside from
saying that he'll look pretty foolish if he then decides not to tobermory.

sounds sensible to me - like he says while we figure out what the hells going on

What, ebulgery?????? We don't have any problem with Africans, you racist!!!!! Don't you know the difference between a death cult, for which you claim to be an apologist, and a race?

How can you say that DIE LINKE.

Now 2/1

Id say he should be shorter, wouldn't be a major shock should he win would it,

or do you think Clintons the best 2's on shot ever?

trump is a loudmouth straight talking democrat NOT a republican..............he does not have a conservative bone in his body..........the only bad thing about him is the mexican speech.

I think Clinton is appalling, she's widely disliked. Hence the 5/2 Trump.

MyBrainhurts

There are a large numbers of Africans drowning themselves getting from North Africa to Southern Europe.

A fair few of them work there way up through Europe and are camped at Calais, where they do anything they can

to get into the UK.

F A C T........

Islam is a religion not a death cult.

with the high st firms the 5/2's gone, i got a feeling we'll see Trumps
price keep being trimmed.

Ideology

There are also a number of Kurdish Iraqis

We wont quibble over that Ron

islam is for mentally ill persons, as are most religions........end of discussion.

In that case we need to open all those Psychiatric hospitals we closed and build a few more.

We have lot of lunatics to treat

yes gery.........thats where they should be sent, unless of course they keep their religion to themselves.........no problem with that..........its these people who talk about jesus, the prophet, virgin mary, the holy spirit and all this utter drivel............its pure mental illness...........its for people who cant deal with reality.........its a tough world, we are all going to die.......probably in agony.......its no grand plan of some supergod...........its just life. get on with it.

I was watching that sky news discussion with june sarpong earlier,

they were talking about religion , one said the church of england are not
getting the numbers going anymore.

When did people go to church in numbers? my thoughts are it's there as a guidance for this country
if you want it!! as a kid we were sort of pushed into sunday school etc but we just
used it as a f about

& looked as the real church goers as a bit odd? probably wrong but was only a kid,
but these muslims take it to a whole new level its not a guidance its either do
as we say or be punished

its a tough world, we are all going to die.......probably in agony

you are a ray of sunshine bdj

The church of England get very poor attendances now

That is because we don't burn people at the stake for not turning up like we used to

Religion was very important to us in the past, it is not so now because we have science.

Some people still need religion, if it is voluntary that is ok, I believe religion in this country must

be voluntary for both Christians and Muslims. As a rule of our society.

religion is coming to an end in europe (except the muslims of course)..........im irish...........untill the late 80's ireland was a very religious country.........that is now over............no cotraception and no divorce is laughed at now.........gay marriage is in............and people regularly say quality of life is more important than life itself (opening the door for euthnasia)............ireland is becoming a secular country. and that is something very good. the parish priest is now just another person........an old virgin really who dresses in strange chlothes. no longer do women shake when he enters a room, rushing to give him cake and tea............saying yes father no father, your marvelous............bla bla.

As you are talking of Ireland, Eire I presume I could not comment.

I would like to see euthanasia in this country let alone Eire.

Gay marriage I have expressed reservations over that, so I wont change my view there.

Ireland sounds good + they haven't been invaded & had the quality of their
life spoilt - They should learn from our disaster so you'd think it won't
happen there & keep the numbers under control

religion is the main reason why i despise the republican party in america.........ted cruz and all those creepy religious lunes........did u hear marco rubios surrender speech (when he dropped out)...........OMG.........he started waffling about jesus christ........i nearly puked.

May 22, 2016 -- 10:34PM, Ron-Russian wrote:

Well if that's what he's saying & gets a lot of voters onside fromsaying that he'll look pretty foolish if he then decides not to tobermory.sounds sensible to me - like he says while we figure out what the hells going on

He's running for President , not Dictator . It will not be within his power to ban Muslims . Of course The Wall that Mexico will pay for is a joke too , and Trump knows it is . Trump just approaches politics the same way he approaches business ; starts off with a ludicrous position that makes a deal impossible then negotiate and compromise. He is likely to do some crazy random things though .

im not with the g@y marriage thing at all either bg.

but because of the muslim hatred towards them we've sort of been silenced &
appeared to be in favour of it!

OMG? What do those initials stand for, brain dead jockeys?

Trump thinks gay marriage is great by the way.

He is not really a conservative at all, and is despised by the right of The Republican party.

OK thanks for clearing that up tobermory.

Who would have the say to make that happen then if possible? the temporary ban?

Muslims are not at all gay friendly, neither where we at one time, remember Oscar Wilde?

I have only objected to gay marriage because I think it undermines family values. I had no objection to civil union.

I am not keen on divorce either tbh. I am very traditional over this.

I accept Trump is not perfect tobermory, but I would like to see him in.

i doubt your going to get anyone say you remember him bg.

died in 1900

I think Eire have probably learnt from us Ron.

I regret we have given our country away, but unfortunately I don't think we can change it now.

The world of Marple or Midsummers Murders does not really exist any more does it?

I just remembered him Ron

OMG = o my goodness!

GOD!

lets face it guys...............4 years of donald trump as president will be the greatest entertainment in the history of mankind............political correctness will be booted to mars.........Donald, putin and berlesconi will be having pool parties every weekend.

we're already going down a dangerous bend over backwards for muslims road!

so Trumps a no lose gamble for me, what more damage could he do than the likes
of Clinton/Cameron/Merkel will do....we know what road their going down, until
it's to late to be stopped

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  3h hours ago
How can Crooked Hillary say she cares about women when she is silent on radical Islam, which horribly oppresses women?

Donalds gonna take some beating for me, Clinton will be ripped to pieces by him.

allowing turkey in to the EU will be the biggest policy mistake europe will have made in 50 years...........i hope britain will leave the EU and that the whole project then collapses..........

Speech the slimeball Cameron made in 2010, here is a portion

"I am here to make the case for Turkey’s membership of the European Union and to fight for it. Do you know who said this? ‘Here is a country which is not European, its history, its geography, its economy, its agriculture and the character of its people - admirable people though they are - all point in a different direction. This is a country which cannot, despite what it claims and perhaps even what it believes, be a full member.’

Now, that might sound like some Europeans describing Turkey. Actually it was General de Gaulle describing the United Kingdom, my country, before vetoing our accession to the European Union. So we know what it is like to be shut out of the club, but we also know that these things can change.

When I think about what Turkey has done to defend Europe as a NATO ally and what Turkey is doing today in Afghanistan alongside our European allies, it makes me angry that your progress towards EU membership can be frustrated in the way that it has been. My view is clear: I believe it is just wrong to say that Turkey can guard the camp but not be allowed to sit in the tent.

I will remain your strongest possible advocate for EU membership and for greater influence at the top table of European diplomacy. This is something I feel very strongly and very passionately about. Together I want us to pave the road from Ankara to Brussels.

To make the case for Turkey’s membership of the EU and to seize the huge advances I believe that we can make in our trade and in our security, there are three groups that we have to take on directly"


Whole speech he made is here

.
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pms-speech-in-turkey

Speech the slimeball Cameron made in 2010, here is a portion

"I am here to make the case for Turkey’s membership of the European Union and to fight for it. Do you know who said this? ‘Here is a country which is not European, its history, its geography, its economy, its agriculture and the character of its people - admirable people though they are - all point in a different direction. This is a country which cannot, despite what it claims and perhaps even what it believes, be a full member.’

Now, that might sound like some Europeans describing Turkey. Actually it was General de Gaulle describing the United Kingdom, my country, before vetoing our accession to the European Union. So we know what it is like to be shut out of the club, but we also know that these things can change.

When I think about what Turkey has done to defend Europe as a NATO ally and what Turkey is doing today in Afghanistan alongside our European allies, it makes me angry that your progress towards EU membership can be frustrated in the way that it has been. My view is clear: I believe it is just wrong to say that Turkey can guard the camp but not be allowed to sit in the tent.

I will remain your strongest possible advocate for EU membership and for greater influence at the top table of European diplomacy. This is something I feel very strongly and very passionately about. Together I want us to pave the road from Ankara to Brussels.

To make the case for Turkey’s membership of the EU and to seize the huge advances I believe that we can make in our trade and in our security, there are three groups that we have to take on directly"


Whole speech he made is here

.
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pms-speech-in-turkey

turkey being a member of nato has got nothing to do with it being a potential member of the EU........actually it would be good if turkey was booted out of nato so we could let assad take over the whole of syria and stop playing these geopolitical games with turkeys rivals. the wests alliance with saudi arabi and turkey to a lesser extent has been a total disaster for the middle east.

Mexican/USA border

1,989 miles

if he won two terms he couldn't finish the wall

Enjoy the Clinton squirm, especially as she`s pulled up for lying about being shot at, having been caught out nicely on camera;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI&ebc=ANyPxKrzNzp-Iyqjstmxw6vGO8ZwdUoV4fCJNncxVQ4LX_UvUh7tDlbNoyLUXxyR5dkaJkJXyIr7TSagxORXcIVho1BKUjpGTQ&nohtml5=False



Still in doubt as to whether she`s worthy? This should dispel such thoughts;

www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-are-hillarys-22-biggest-scandals-ever/

only 22

Indeed! I suppose they had to stop somewhere, though.

xmoneyx  • May 23, 2016 11:42 AM BST 


Mexican/USA border

1,989 miles

if he won two terms he couldn't finish the wall

Hadrian's Wall 84 miles took 14 years

On that basis it will take 331 years....still they did not have things like jcbs then?

I do wonder if this is political rather than an actual wall?

as low as 7/4 Donald now with a few firms

at this rate it'll be even money the pair in no time

The wall is a sideshow.

Immigration surged after NAFTA, implemented by Bill and rabidly supported by Hillary. There are plenty of ways Trump can attack her. It will be nasty.

I would be concerned about Clinton's scandals....what sort of respect will she get from other World leaders?

It is normal for those who rise to the position of leaders in our societies....to be pillars of moral rectitude,

so if there are scandals, they need to be well buried.

I would hope for Trump or Sanders rather than her. I may be doing her a disservice, perhaps she will make a good president?

I don't think her husband was much good in the job.

My post censored over the wall, seems a touchy subject?????????????????

if trump gets in he will have problems dealing with the wall........but trump does not care about backtracking.......he changes his mind on everything and since all politicians are liars what diff does it make.
his biggest challange will be the 20 trilion debt..........i am astonished that this issue is not discussed more in american politics.....
i am sick and tired of people like hillary talking about women in america as if they are an oppressed minority. men get paid more than women because men have a long sustained career with no breaks......women have to take time off to have children and this is why they get paid less. it aint rocked science.

Loving that video timbuctooth & thanks pumphol for reminding me what a 2 faced bstard cameron is.

i am sick and tired of people like hillary talking about women in america as if they are an oppressed minority. men get paid more than women because men have a long sustained career with no breaks......women have to take time off to have children and this is why they get paid less. it aint rocked science.

I agree with you there bjd

a re-post.

Ron-Russian    22 May 16 23:37 
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  3h hours ago
How can Crooked Hillary say she cares about women when she is silent on radical Islam, which horribly oppresses women?

Donald's gonna tie her up in knots - them prices should be the other way around,

1/2 Donald 2/1 Clinton

Whatever Clinton is guaranteed a strong female vote.

I would urge American men not to vote for her, vote Trump or Sanders.

But in this world one cannot protect people from themselves, people often have to learn the hard way.

This is how life works.

Mind you I am watching a program on Ch 5+1 which said Nazi women were used to communicate with extra terrestrials

using their hair as antennae, so perhaps I underestimate women. Though the Nazis still lost?

all firms trimmed up Sir Donald now.

& Cow Clinton as big as 4/7