Not been near the wife since Christmas Day........

thing of the arc

Show your wife a replay of the Arc, if that doesn't get her juices flowing then there is something wrong with her.

I will not ruin your thread so I will finish with this little extra bit of psychology.
Alcoholism is a serious sickness that tells the sufferer he does not suffer from it.
an alcoholic will never give up drink if you tell him to give it up.
but if you tell an alcoholic he is a much nicer guy when he is not drinking .that statement will register with him and you will get better results.
NOW THATS PSYCHOLIGY.
this post has nothing to do with this thread buy may help someone.

Oui il elle mais oui n'est ca pas

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CI CD

Killer Couples on now

I'd say on one hand you need to be patient. Women can often go off sex for a variety of reasons following child birth and it can be different from one child to the next. Being understanding and supportive can be helpful. Equally, you have needs which aren't being fulfilled so it's not unreasonable to sit down and discuss it with her. She's right sex doesn't show someone you love them but intimacy up to and including making love does.

At some point you probably need to sit down and talk about this in an adult way and if you can't address whatever the issue is counselling may be the way forward for you both.

Jesus Christ pass me the phucking sick bucket eeternalprick, W H A T  A  P H U C K I N G  S O P P Y   N A U S E A T I N G post that was, what came over you? normally you never deviate away from the fantasy hardman image you've so desperately tried to carve out on here over the years


All those years hard work, undone in just 4 slushy, mushy, lines

http://www.mumsnet.com/info/search?query=Don%27t+want+to+have+sex

Heated - In the past, whenever I have tried to just sit on the couch and cuddle with him, or simply hug him, he goes too far. I have expressed to him many, many times that it bothers me that we can't just hug or cuddle without his hands traveling around. If we hug for instance, the next thing ya know his hands are down my pants and he's feeling my bottom. I don't mind that if we are getting ready to start something. But when I'm standing at the kitchen sink and he comes up behind me and starts feeling my breasts and humping my bottom, and then one hand starts down the front of my pants, it gets a little annoying. He claims this is how he shows affection. That's fine, I'm not telling him to change but I don't personally like it.



Good old Mums Net  ,one or three pages there that may help the OP ,Tbh i think theres more chance of the op finding the answer there ,guys are not very good at talking about this stuff imo .

if you want cheering up ,Mumsnet never fails

Woman seem so much better at talking about this stuff ,some of the advice seems from the heart .

When it's 'lack of chemistry' with a 'good, kind person', it can depend on your definition of 'good kind person'. If your expectations are so low that you think he's wonderful because he doesn't hit or rape or verbally abuse you, but on the other hand does absolutely **** all around the house and expects to be waited on, then it's probably basic resentment that's stoppered your libido.
Do you know what you like sexually and is he capable of giving it? In some cases, where a woman has been led to believe that 'love' makes for great sex, she may have been putting up with a bloke who is basically incompetent at it for years: technique is more important than a lot of people think. Ok not everyone wants to do it upside down in the wardrobe or master every position in the kama sutra, but if you have fallen into a sexual routine which is about getting him to pop his cork as quickly as possible and it's two minutes of nipple tweaking and one quick fumble round your hairy mary before he jumps on top, no wonder you're losing interest.

Good old mumsnet

You helping out with the baby much,they don't like that if you're not putting your fair share in,when my daughter wss born I used to sit up from 2am-5am rocking her as wouldn't go to sleep.Try and getting a baysittter and have a night out as well,my partner and me always made sure we had a Friday or Saturday night off every fortnight,made a lot of difference especially after the first 9 months..

Women....a tragedy us men need them

Perhaps she just wants it to be her and her baby daughter

Try to persuade her to see a marriage councillor with you

As a complete failure with women myself I am the last one to advice you

Google your problem on the Internet....you may find someone who has had similar problem

I think you have a problem

Maybe he's a lousy lover.

He certainly is disloyal and shameless.

Sofiakenny
sounds like a right lezzer imo.Sad

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FFS, just wash it.

Rohypnol

Convert to Islam.
You will be allowed a few more wives,the state will then give you a few more houses.

can i ask about how you share parenting and domestic roles?

If you leave she'll get the house, kids and child support.  Nothing like equal rights in 21st century Britain.  She knows this so basically you are fooked.

Now if it was 50/50 who got the kids and the house and child support she'd be riding you every day.

Alternatively, convert to Islam, move to Saudi, threaten stoning if she talks to another man, and take a second younger wife.

Does your duck of love lie now shredded in the hoi-sin sauce of her rejection?

Some women completely lose their libido after childbirth.  This maybe because they've now achieved their goal, or it might be because they feel they are not attractive any more, or it might be something else.

Might be worth a punt that she doesn't feel attractive any more.  Try and get her more active to feel better about herself, but not so much better about herself that she runs off with the gym instructor.

tell her you are having an affair? She'll get jealous and beat your brains in. Maybe survive to tell her she does care after all.

CLYDEBANK29  • May 11, 2016 10:08 AM BST 
If you leave she'll get the house, kids and child support.  Nothing like equal rights in 21st century Britain.  She knows this so basically you are fooked.

I agree with that.

I hope you make it up dancingbrave. Men still do the dirty on women, but more and more I see women doing the dirty on men.

A loving relationship is still the best, but it is becoming more and more risky for men in our society.

When people lay into the Muslims about their treatment of women. It does make me wonder, who has got the brains us or them?

I do not approve of ill treatment of women.

'Ok not everyone wants to do it upside down in the wardrobe or master every position in the kama sutra,'

Dont they?

Note to self:

Must buy a stronger wardrobe....

when me and the wife split we divided the house equally, she got the inside and i got the outside

My ex wife got a 4 bedroom house out of me, she had never seen a £50 note before she met me.

ambush

I'm not bitter BlueGrey, my journey in life led me to who I was meant to be with all along, priceless.

SlippyBlue
My ex wife got a 4 bedroom house out of me, she had never seen a £50 note before she met me.

A lot cheaper than that in Liverpool docks m8.

I am glad  of that Slippy Blue

All I am left with is 1 cat, I am bitter for sure!

Still at my cat can't rob me.

at least

May 11, 2016 -- 9:01PM, SlippyBlue wrote:

My ex wife got a 4 bedroom house out of me, she had never seen a £50 note before she met me.

Bet she saw a lot of rolled-up ones after she met you!

Guilty as charged PatraTheCat but that is history now,that was quite a few years ago, good boy now. I hardly ever gamble these days let alone anything else old stick.

What I cant understand is why women when it suits(talking from experience) expect everything money ,house because they are female and should be provided for .I have to say one or two excluded who are genuinely nice human beings but certainly from experience they can be nasty nasty nasty human beings.

I would certainly agree with that.

Women in our societies have raised victimisation to an art form.

Sadly I fear this will only get worse until men remove the wool from their eyes. I hope it is not too late..

We seem happy to condemn Muslim men....but I ask the question.

who has more sense, them or us?

That should be raised the role of victimisation to an art form.

Look at poor old Do Wah Diddy...such a lovely man...look what his ex did to him.

Divorced him just because he was an alcoholic and gambling addict...minor peccadillos.

He did not claim he was perfect, so sad us men need women.

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That should be raised the role of victimisation to an art form.

You seem to be trying to level the score single-handedly though

ebulGery
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That should be raised the role of victimisation to an art form.

You seem to be trying to level the score single-handedly though

It don't work with you though Roger......oh well

How's dancing?
Colin's wife was the same he got her 50 shades and then started spanking her.

Are you sure the kid is yours Bud?.....I would get a Paternity Test Quick Style.

The OP has made marriage look even less attractive than it already did. I mean, even the average Chit Chatterer has been laid during the course of this year, and if you're doing badly by Chit Chat standards, you're in a dark place indeed.

Glad you're so positive about your child I and hope for her sake you can sort things out. You must have some sort of bargaining power. Can't you use it to try to get some once a fortnight at least? None all year is ridiculous. What about saying that you'd be in a better mood, there'd be a more positive vibe about the place and that would ultimately benefit the child?

Say you'll put a shelf up.

That should do it!

a shelf ...could be going in a bit high there imo

It's not women's fault that the law is heavily in their favour, it's mens.  It used to be that men generally initiated divorce, not it's generally women.  That's because the law and society used to favour men.  Now it favours women.

The Equal Pay Act came in in 1970.  So that's 46 years and counting that women have according to the law been paid more than men because they get 5 years more pension.  That's 10 years more pension if you adjust it for life expectancy.  I know it's changing but it should change straight away not in X number of years.  It never gets mentioned, yet there is an acknowledged pension crisis.  FFS if it was the other way round you wouldn't hear the end of it.

Tell her its Christmas Day. Hope this helps.

While he was the supreme equine athlete Dancing Brave was largely considered a failure at stud.

78 posts and not one advice to " SMASH HER BACK DOORS IN "! is this some kind of record ?

We seem happy to condemn Muslim men....but I ask the question.

who has more sense, them or us?

ebulGery, I know how you feel about women, but in this instance you should be ashamed of yourself.

So you think it is okay to stone women to death for adultery, marry child brides of seven, raping and making sex slaves of captives, mutilating young girls without anesthetic etc etc ?

I thought better of you, ebulGery

Oh dear...

Aye oh dear right enough, explain yerself Ebul.

You are picking the most extreme examples, which most Muslim men do not do.....

I think we allow women far too much power in the West, which men will regret more and more in time....

Women are indispensable in their role, which is basically wife and mother, although we can allow some exceptions.

The way I see it men lead, women support....believe me that is the best way.

But of course you won't believe me...which is your choice.

I have seen women get more power and more power in my lifetime, I have seen our society suffer for this.

I suffered myself...which is why I now see the truth, before that I was like everybody else on here.

I have never harmed a women personally in my life and never will.

Jesus Christ pass me the phucking sick bucket eeternalprick, W H A T  A  P H U C K I N G  S O P P Y   N A U S E A T I N G post that was, what came over you? normally you never deviate away from the fantasy hardman image you've so desperately tried to carve out on here over the years

I appreciate I have the advantage over you here acquiesce. Not only have I seen and actually touched a real woman but I've had sex with a few over the years. If someone ever takes pity on you and throws you a bone you may begin to develop empathy for the opposite sex. In the meantime make sure to keep your own special lady pumped up.

Is that aimed at me?, yet again you attack me, not my argument Eternal.

I speak as I find, I so no obligation to agree with anyone.

Only time will prove who is right here, we will both be long gone.

Women are indispensable in their role, which is basically wife and mother, although we can allow some exceptions.

You're all heart Ebul.
I think yer problem though is that you were born at the wrong time.
Probably the 1500s would have suited you better.

I'll answer for Eeter. No.

You are probably right there akabula

"Probably the 1500s would have suited you better."

Probably, 21st century Islam would suit him better.

1500s would have suited us better.

The way I see it men lead, women support....believe me that is the best way.




Every single war ever started has been created and fought in by men.

Religion was started by men, and that has been the most destructive action ever taken in earths history.

If I've ever attacked you in the past I certainly haven't recently ebul. You seem a man with many demons who needs good people around you. I don't want to add to any troubles you may have. That and me addressing the post to acquiesce should have given you a clue.

I want women to have the same choices as men.  It's a fundamental right in a free world.  Many women, maybe even the majority of women, want to be wives and mothers first, but this is no longer cool.  But if we accept that rights of equality in the work place and in relationships must be replicated in parenthood, housing and financial obligations to children, which are massively unequal as things stand.

acquiesce just wants a woman which doesn't pop when he bites her.

Clouseau

I understand men caring for our own women, wife, girlfriend, mother, daughter.....but what I don't understand

is why do we care for all women?

If I was to say I feel sorry for Muslim women, would beautiful Muslim women have sex with me in gratitude
I don't think they would, so I don't say it.

You are forgetting Helen of Troy scandianavian, and I have a feeling women do not object a lot when our men killing Muslim men.

How do you know religion started by men, in fact Christianity was strongly pushed by women?

eternal

ebul, with all due respect, I honestly don't think you believe half the things you think let alone type.

I wonder what you think of Queen Boadicea Ebul or in more modern times Margaret Thatcher.

So full of bile and idiocy aren't you?

To the plastic doll man of course.

You will never know Scandinavian?

I did not like Thatcher, but that was because of her politics not her sex.

I like Boudicca a lot more, I said I allow some exceptions to the rule.

She was badly treated by the Romans. She very nearly defeated the Romans, but Suetonius pulled a rabbit out of the hat

and defeated her at the battle of Watling Street, very sad

I'm not a history expert Scandinavian but I'd be pretty confident that not every single war was started by men.  I'd also be quite confident that there are many more practising Christian women in the UK than men.  Virtually every major building has been built by men, and virtually every major invention has been invented by men.  Maybe that will change now that women have more and more opportunities.

Ebulgery,

Even though you're massively mysogynistic and have some truly weird attitudes, one of the reasons you're relatively popular on this forum, I submit, is that you don't have a massive ego like lots of others. It always feels like you're more open to reason than the average, but you have a huge mental block when it comes to women and gáys.

So, just let me try something. For a moment, be objective about the situation. Don't you think that it's very likely that your views on women have been significantly affected by your interactions with them over your life? Therefore, while I totally understand your not liking women, do you really think you're in any way capable of coming up with anything approaching an unbiased opinion on them?

If I met a bloke who'd been horribly mauled by a dog when he was 3, and then again when he was 12 and then again when he was 20 and he told me he didn't like dogs, I'd say fair enough, I'm not surprised! But if he started telling me that dogs were pure evil and they were the Devil's animal and with the way the world was going dogs would soon have more power than people, I wouldn't take him that seriously.

I mean, doesn't the fact that you're the most mysogynistic bloke even on an extremely mysogynistic forum make you wonder whether you've taken your position a bit too far?

The problem with asking on here dancing is that 90% of the contributors believe if they pop on some
dungarees and carry a bag of spanners they will get laid.

Patra, Ebul asked me to post this. Please study it carefully.

78 posts and not one advice to " SMASH HER BACK DOORS IN "! is this some kind of record ?

I must admit, FOYLESWAR, that when i was first on here I was horrified at the posts by men.  It has certainly been an education
However, I must admit a certain longing for the 'wild west chit chat' of old.

Are you seeking an offer from someone to spaff on your chebs annie?

aka

NO

However, that is another example of a chit chat saying that I loathed at the beginning but now makes me smile, I think

I do hope if the OP hasn't been near his wife since Christmas Day he at least managed to deliver a sack full then.

akabula

An interesting post Patra. I admit I do not have an unbiased opinion on women because they hurt me badly, which had a bad effect on my life.

I have never found anyone else, my life never recovered, so that wound has never healed. I don't think it ever will.

To take your dog analogy, if someone had a permanently open wound for life from being mauled by a dog, do you think they would ever forgive dogs?

I have not actually said, yet, that women are pure evil and are the devil's animals. But I admit I have been tempted

Ta for the nice bits of your post patra.

Eternal

I would get a blow up doll, but I have a cat. I know he would sink his claws into her and she would soon deflate.

I don't think I could cope with that tbh.

So my point is that:

I suffered myself...which is why I now see the truth, before that I was like everybody else on here.

should be

I suffered myself...which is why I perceive a warped version of the truth, before that I was like everybody else on here.


Makes no difference from your perspective, but why on earth try to convince others? What's in it for me switching from my current opinion of:

They often annoy me and I don't want to marry one (look what happened to the OP ffs) but they are no better or worse as people than men. Plus, tits are fantastic.

Eh?

As far as the dog analogy goes, I was bitten by different dogs twice around the age of 6-9, although both times it was single bites not maulings.  I am also very badly allergic to dog hair, such that I'd probably need hospitalisation if I stayed overnight at a house with dogs.  I can confirm I don't like dogs and people who own them don't realise how bad their house stinks to non dog owners.  You also have to walk around with plastic bags picking up their poop, which doesn't appeal to me one bit.  I do however recognise the loving affection that dogs show to their owners, which if having a stinky house, running round after them and picking up poop doesn't bother you, is a price worth paying.

Being in a loving relationship and having a close family is the best feeling, but it comes at a price, and that price is higher for men than for women, which the OP is finding out.

ebulgery  you are spot om m8.They seem to have a nasty streak that they have a need to fight and hurt.Well my ex does,but I think she was just born nasty and I never so it till far too late.

I think all women expect all me to cheat, but they also expect you not to get caught, best of both worlds.

men, not me

An interesting post Patra. I admit I do not have an unbiased opinion on women because they hurt me badly, which had a bad effect on my life.

I have never found anyone else, my life never recovered, so that wound has never healed. I don't think it ever will.

Haven't you?

Bloody hell you've kept that quiet.

Your sympathy touches me Roger

Makes no difference from your perspective, but why on earth try to convince others? What's in it for me switching from my current opinion of:

I am not convincing others am I Patra?, I am just expressing my own opinion and experiences.

Surely that is something we all have a right to, you do not have to change your opinion because of me do you?

What is the point of expressing an opinion if not to convince others?

Unless it's just to hear yourself speak?

Oh yeah...right...now I get it....

If you don't express an opinion then you are sending out a message that you are weak

North Korea for example.  If you express an opinion you are executed, unless you are the beloved leader, or you do what you are told, express no opinion and kiss his arse.

Expressing an opinion also is about mental health, people have to say what they're thinking to get things off their mind, otherwise keeping things in will weigh you down. We always feel better after saying whats we're thinking, whether we're right or wrong.

You're all ****!!

Do you know, you're right scandanavian_haven! I feel better already.