Who Is the Prophet Muhammad..

I will tell one thing Ron...if he had tipped me Leicester to win the Premiership at 5000/1 at the beginning of the season

I would be a believer

But he did not, so I am not

They say he was a right nice bloke - salt of the earth type.

No mention of peadophilia, murdering innocents and the subjugation of women and other religions.

It's paedophilia, Ovalman.  Always best to have your letters in the right order if you are on the bigotry trail.

good spot

You do realise Ron that if you insult this man, you are placing your own life in danger

Remember Salmon Rushdie, attempts have been made to kill him

On that basis I will apologise for my rather pathetic attempt at humour


The problem as I see it we are living in a World which is moving towards the extremes on both sides, which is sad

I remember in the 1960/70's we were far more tolerant of different views than we are now

I heard he was a warrior with a large sword that chopped people's heads off? Then justified it with a book. Why didn't Jesus do that? or Buddha?

As I understand it :

The angel Gabriel met an illiterate  goat herd who was fasting in a cave in the desert and gave the guy lots of messages

and thats when much of today's trouble started

If you are a Muslim you literally believe in angels.( and Adam and Eve)

What I don't get is why a 6th century BC religion with a belief in Angels is causing so much misery - why are different muslim factions killing themselves and each other? It is quite sad bewildering and inconvenient - I like travelling - one of my favourite restaurants in Marrakesh was blown to pieces by a bomb a year or so back ; Tunisia has had gunmen on the beaches; Egypt is a mess;Turkey is under siege and I'd like to visit Jerusalem but keep prevaricating about it.

it's a power struggle lmfao.
The quantum leap in communications in the internet age has enabled the rapid spread of propaganda, the life blood of terrorism.
Religion is a convenient and extraordinarily powerful tool for inspiring loyalty and hatred of others outside the tribe.

Religion can be used for good purposes too of course and sometimes is. It all hinges on the favoured interpretation of "God's word" by his lieutenants the clergy.

Illiterate Imams cause endless trouble,regurgitating their own prejudices in the name of God to less educated followers,no more or less than that.

As he grew up, he became known to be truthful, honest, trustworthy, generous, and sincere.  He was so trustworthy that they called him the Trustworthy.

The Prophet Muhammad  was a perfect example of an honest, just, merciful, compassionate, truthful, and brave human being.  Though he was a man, he was far removed from all evil characteristics and strove solely for the sake of God and His reward in the Hereafter

there you have it black & white

Are you getting worried Ron

I would say he wrote his own references Ron

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As I understand it :

The angel Gabriel met an illiterate  goat herd who was fasting in a cave in the desert and gave the guy lots of messages

and thats when much of today's trouble started

If you are a Muslim you literally believe in angels.( and Adam and Eve)

What I don't get is why a 6th century BC religion with a belief in Angels is causing so much misery - why are different muslim factions killing themselves and each other? It is quite sad bewildering and inconvenient - I like travelling - one of my favourite restaurants in Marrakesh was blown to pieces by a bomb a year or so back ; Tunisia has had gunmen on the beaches; Egypt is a mess;Turkey is under siege and I'd like to visit Jerusalem but keep prevaricating about it.



mohammad was definitely not a goatherd, and whilst it's very convenient for Islam to believe that he was illiterate, it seems extremely unlikely that he was. He was a very established trader and merchant, as well as being well travelled and there are plenty of suggestions in the hadiths to indicate that he could write. Again, if you sceptical that the Quran was not the word of god, and we were to ascribe his visions to a form of epilepsy, we must ask where Mohammad got so much information, that is remarkably similar to Judeo Christian scripture, from.

It suits the narrative of the miracle of the Quran that he couldn't read or write.

Again, the central point of Islam, is that the Quran is the unalterable word of god. What was deemed to be so offensive about the satanic verses is that they tell a story that suggests Mohammad edited what went in the Quran. This is a big no-no as it calls into question the most sacred assumption.

What was deemed to be so offensive about the satanic verses is that they tell a story that suggests Mohammad edited what went in the Quran.

I withdraw my references post

Illiterate Imams cause endless trouble,regurgitating their own prejudices in the name of God to less educated followers,no more or less than that.

I'm not sure that Imams are illiterate, some may be.
One of their jobs, among others, is to spread the reach and power of Islam and to be fair, they seem to be making a good job of it.

i don't think that would get you on any lists ebul.

besides you're pretty safe on a gambling forum....

Forgot there was a spelling police in the dark ages.

I am relieved to hear dStyle phew!, I am not taking any chances

When people like Blair say we are now multicultural. When we allow immigration we don't only get the bits we like.

We get the whole package. It is such a pity some of our leaders do not see this.

We mock our own Religion all the time, but we mock this bloke at our peril.

After satirical cartoons published in France

On 7 January 2015 at about 11:30 local time, two brothers, Saïd and Chérif Kouachi, forced their way into the offices of the French satirical weekly newspaper Charlie Hebdo in Paris. Armed with assault rifles and other weapons, they killed 11 people and injured 11 others in the building. After leaving, they killed a French National Police officer outside the building. The gunmen identified themselves as belonging to the Islamist terrorist group Al-Qaeda's branch in Yemen, who took responsibility for the attack. Several related attacks followed in the Île-de-France region, where a further five were killed and 11 wounded.

Some of those cartoons were quite humorous, but I think the joke got lost on the Muslims.

There was a Muslim woman on the chase today.When she got her offer's from the chaser she stuck with what she had because she "did not gamble" fair enough. Then a question about tubthumping a well known pop song by chumbawumba (SP) asked which was not mentioned lager,tequila or whisky,She didn't know because she "didn't drink" quite ironic

Is that really true fool proof - wonder what sort of questions she was expecting

a whole range of questions she's be clueless on, not really the sort you want in your team for the final chase,

all tho i guess she'd be hot on the button with any medieval questions

What about the owls?

The brainwashing is deeply embedded. I was thinking pity there was no questions relating to honour killing,she would have skated them.

The question is who is brainwashed?

FP the Muslim bird might be ignorant on gambling & boozing, but for sure the men of that religon do as they please. Go in any bookies in a northern working class town n theres a queue of them sp unking on the machines.
I'll do as i please & you'll do as i say. Horrific people.

Women have choice in our society...so what proof have you that they are brainwashed and do not act out of choice?

My only concern is with the Burqa , because in our society it is normal for people to show their face.

It is not unreasonable to ask British Muslim women not to wear this as we are not a Muslim Theocracy, also no Sharia law, only

secular law for the same reason.

My problem with the Burqa is that it's one sided. Surely the men should also cover their faces. Or do women have no sexual drive and see men as handsome?

Muslim men should wear Burqa's as well...well it is a solution I suppose

I think Muslim's in our society are obligated to live by our laws and rules....as it is our country not their country.

Every time we adapt ourselves to suit them we create a bigger rod for our own backs. They must adapt to our ways.


In their own countries they can do what they want as far as I am concerned, but not in ours.

If we visit someone else's house we abide their house rules
In our own house visitors have to abide by our own house rules
It is no different

Most Muslim women  actually have a vitamin D  deficiency.

It sounds good in theory bg but the damage is done.

I dare say they despise most things about this country (bar bar benefits) but they live here unfortunately - another foot in the door coming up with the likely new London Mare sadiq khan

I do see this...

Britain First won't get in as their main concerns are..

British Jobs for British workers
Housing - Put Brits to the front of the que
Ban barbaric Halal Slaughter
Veterans before migrants

Can't see extremist linked sadiq khan having the same concerns -
London is finished once this mans in

Britain First take a tour of a Halal meat slaughterhouse..

http://videos.britainfirst.org/video-britain-first-invades-londons-biggest-halal-slaughterhouse/

When they allow this you know it's too far broke - all on the saying of some
false prophet that lied & made his own book up.

Lovely animals killed in a barbaric way, ring any tunes does it

So we're letting a muslim with extremist links become Mare of London - we're
letting barbaric acts of killing of animals happen in London to please these barbarians.

what's sadiqs thought on women, g@ys , killing of animals, etc etc etc

he said in that cab ride i see he didnt agree with page 3 among other things that made
you frown , but you can't find this footage anymore as the BBC cut it & disposed of
the bits they didn't like to do the left version

London = Dead by Friday when this mans in - makes you sick i can't even vote,
but all the **** that's probably been here a year etc can

They are supposed to be stunned first Ron

I cant look at it.

I don't know the answer, but we let them in.

I can only say they must abide by our laws and rules.

I don't know you can stop Sadiq becoming Mayor of London, unless extremist links are proved.

We did not have all this trouble with Muslims when I was younger, I don't understand what has happened?

I know one for certain

We are not going to change them
They are not going to change us

so I have no idea where this is going?

Extremist links have been proved, only the other week David Cameron was called a
racist for saying - Labour’s candidate for London mayor has ‘shared a platform with extremists’

Britain First have done a video with all his links to extremists over the years - link
below.

http://videos.britainfirst.org/video-sadiq-khan-exposed/

Only the other day sadiq khan called moderate muslims if there is even a thing
Uncle Toms.

Uncle Tom - a black man considered to be excessively obedient or servile to whites

Just the sort of man for Mare

was a video from 2009 - but as said there's plenty of cases over the years

People on here more concerned with whats going on in the USA with Sir Donald

he was a goatherder turned merchant when older

and claimed that the Arch Angel Gabriel told him lots of things to say


and Muslims believe this.

Is that Muhammad or Donald Trump lmfao?

Why would God be sending messages of advise to such a nut job!

The list of his crimes are endless - i dare say UK schools are searching for Muhammad
story play they can act on stage for that diverse feel - but there just isn't one suitable

*advice