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By:
dave1357
When: 12 Apr 16 14:58

Apr 12, 2016 -- 10:55AM, Jack Hacksaw wrote:


Not sure if gays keeping their heads down is a good or bad thing.


I think ebulgery was talking from his point of view

By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Apr 16 15:46
You might be but I love women not a hairy arse, no wonder you can't get a woman. Say hello to your wrist by the way

I walked into that one rather BBSad..although I did say the majority of people are heterosexual...which includes myself.


I should have said there is only one thing, it is called sex, and bi-sexuals do contradict the argument that people

are born either straight or gay......

Still you always dig me out whatever I say BB...I do suffer for my argumentsCry
By:
ebulGery
When: 12 Apr 16 15:58
I am not sure we should be sticking  it anywhereShocked Roger,but I have no complaint at people finding love where they can get it

I just think this world would be much simpler if we just stuck to men and women, that causes us enough difficulty as it is.

I still think gays are better in the closet myself...they do not do a lot for family values.

I think we place for too much emphasis on sex in the West, tempting as it is, there are other things.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 12 Apr 16 16:02
Yeah - sex is okay but it's not as good as the real thing
By:
ZenMaster
When: 12 Apr 16 16:05
I think this actually goes full circle, were the anti gay Christian ethics integrates with Islam on gay issues

Muslims would actually get on very well with the Christian mob, especially the Yank Christian mob on the gay issue.
By:
DStyle
When: 12 Apr 16 16:23
it's more that they are precisely the same, rather than full circle.

if we are to believe that muhammad was in fact having epileptic siezures in his cave and merely reciting a synthesis of the bits of the torah and bible he was familiar with, then the bit in the Koran is merely a reproduction of the bible's view.

"...For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.... And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone)"


That's from the Koran. The brimstone reference is clearly redolent of the tale of Sodom and Gomarrah.

The Yank christian mob are selective literal interpretors. (i doubt any of the women follow the crazy sh1t in leviticus about killing pigeons or turtles after their periods). But they choose to treat certain passages as dogma; muslims don't have that luxury.
By:
epicurean
When: 12 Apr 16 16:31
Zen,Islam has more in common with Hitler they share all his Fascist beliefs.

Except Hitler didn't believe in stoning wives for alleged adultery or Allah and made the trains run on time apparently.
By:
Injera
When: 12 Apr 16 16:55
Is beastiality and incest ok these days? Perhaps we need some more 'enlightened liberalism' before it gets the thumbs up.

Within the use and practice of anything it helps to have boundaries.

The opposition to the same genders practising sex acts on one another comes from a number of belief systems. Historically it's seen as a boundary that should not be crossed.

It's helpful to society to have some relationships that can be sexual/romantic etc and others that are not.

If Incest became legal for example, the problems within families would be horrendous. That of course is why in just about all cultures and faiths it's considered wrong.

In the case of gays, I would have thought they should have separate public changing facilities. It seems perverse for (wo)men who fancy other (wo)men to be able to see them naked.
By:
mecca
When: 12 Apr 16 16:56
The problem, imo, is not their views on homosexuality... or anything else. The problem is - they are here.... in very large numbers.

The future looks bleak
By:
ZenMaster
When: 12 Apr 16 17:05
Zen,Islam has more in common with Hitler they share all his Fascist beliefs.


Possibly but when we are on the subject of one issue, that being the views on homosexuality, fundamental Christianity and Islam are bed fellows.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 12 Apr 16 18:18
In the case of gays, I would have thought they should have separate public changing facilities. It seems perverse for (wo)men who fancy other (wo)men to be able to see them naked.

Happily some have evolved beyond the 'dogs on heat' stage of Darwinism and can manage to control themselves without getting a hard / wide on when they see someone of the same sex.

I know! Amazing isn't it?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 12 Apr 16 18:21
the next step would be to ask straight men to marry gay men. If you refuse you are obviously bias - a jail offence will be issued and you will be sent to jail with big hairy men.
By:
posy
When: 12 Apr 16 18:57
On this issue over half of British Muslims have got it right.
By:
annie.
When: 12 Apr 16 19:25
All of the crazy views stem from religion - whatever religion that it.
Religion is the root of evil and whoever believes in imaginary friends in the sky etc. etc. need to sort themselves out - ooh my imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend so Im going to sort you out .. mugs the lot of them


Brilliant, lumponlarge Happy

Although you are probably someone else as I see that you have only posted 343 times in almost 16 years!!!

Whatever, they say good things come to those who wait Happy
By:
Injera
When: 12 Apr 16 19:36
Roger - therefore you would advocate men and women sharing public changing facilities, given that we can all look skywards, keeping our emotions in check.
By:
mobo
When: 12 Apr 16 19:49
bottom bumping is not natural though, is it.
Neither is women on top.
Come to that, Muslim view on theft etc is pretty good(and the punishment)
An extra wife or two - not bad - nice to have a spare.
Sorting out your family problems with outside help and the wife not getting the major say or share.

What's not to like??
By:
Injera
When: 12 Apr 16 19:52
I don't know if the survey included a question about the Ahmadis...


Seems very clear that most Muslims denounce the Ahmadis. The Pakistan govt deoesn't even recognise them as Muslims...

From the Guardian in December..

Laws ban Ahmadis from describing themselves as Muslims or carrying out core Islamic practices such as performing the call to prayer or building minarets on their places of worship, which they are banned from calling mosques.

In recent months, a mob burned down an Ahmadi-owned factory in the city of Jhelum and hundreds of people protested against police after they removed anti-Ahmadi signs from a shop window in Lahore.
By:
mobo
When: 12 Apr 16 19:55
Yes, but shirley, in a democracy you wouldn't expect a few outsiders to have a say, would you. They just get in the way. You don't want a minority steering the country and having influence way over their actual numbers!!!!
By:
Roger The Butler
When: 12 Apr 16 22:48
Injera   
12 Apr 16 16:55 
Perhaps we need some more 'enlightened liberalism' before it gets the thumbs up.


This thread gets more perverse. We've got gays keeping their heads down, people disappearing up their own sphincters and now we have thumbs going up.

It's like a highlights reel from The Word.
By:
Capt__F
When: 12 Apr 16 23:18
Greece
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Apr 16 00:51
When I was playing team sports I wouldn't have been the least offended if a gay team mate got an erection whilst looking longingly at me. In fact it may have hurt my feelings a little if he didn't. I'd have drawn the line at being bathed in his glory but I've always been a little reserved like that.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Apr 16 00:58
In fact I may have been tempted to wave my tallywacker back at him and in my best Jim Bowen voice say, have a look at what you could have won.

I remember working with a drag queen once called Trevor and I happened to mention that he was getting a belly to which he replied, "don't worry love. It'll rest nicely on your back".
By:
annie.
When: 13 Apr 16 01:55
Happy
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 13 Apr 16 08:17
Injera
     12 Apr 16 19:36   

Roger - therefore you would advocate men and women sharing public changing facilities, given that we can all look skywards, keeping our emotions in check.


Therefore you would advocate a sexuality test for members of all sports teams prior to them entering changing rooms and the building of extra changing rooms for gays (or restricting team sports to clean-n0bbed / f@nnied old heterosexuals?)

No.

I advocate getting on with life and allowing other people to get on with theirs.
By:
ebulGery
When: 13 Apr 16 12:09
I see North Carolina  and Mississippi are trying to stand up for our straights

Not sure if they will hold, massive gay bullying
By:
ebulGery
When: 13 Apr 16 12:10
us straights
By:
Injera
When: 13 Apr 16 17:34
If gays want equality let them have it.

I'm attracted to women but am not allowed to change next to them!

Why should gays be allowed to change or use the bogs of those they fancy?

Illogical captain.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 13 Apr 16 18:03
Okay Injera

I'm happy with things as they are. I don't want to change with women (even though I'm attracted to them). I'm secure enough that when I go to the gym, play rugby / football, go swimming etc and have to get naked in front of my fellow pen1s support units, that any gay bloke that's in there won't proposition me. This is mostly on the basis I'm an ugly cnt but also that I give them credit for the fact they are probably there to get changed for the match / workout / swim etc and their minds are on that, rather than my cute little botty.

I don't want my taxes or gym subscriptions to be hiked in order to build separate changing rooms for homosexuals and my liberal (in the sense of 'freedom loving') sensibilities are offended by my having to provide data to an as yet unknown entity (a new government department?) to initiate this sexual apartheid you want to introduce. Care to price up the cost of that?

....and I'm the illogical one here????
By:
Injera
When: 13 Apr 16 18:18
Point number one my friend. You're not ugly. Beauty is in the eye of the etc..Happy

Secondly, it's not my problem that the cost of seperate facilities would be prohibitive.

That's a consequence of the gay advance.

Equality carries with it responsibilities and challenges.

I don't want my kids changing with gays who would be happy to see them undress. Or am I an illogical father? Gay men have notoriously been associated with mens' toilets for obvious reasons....
By:
Ron Pillock
When: 13 Apr 16 18:25
Comedy Gold..keep up the good work.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 13 Apr 16 19:25
Injera
     13 Apr 16 18:18   

Point number one my friend. You're not ugly. Beauty is in the eye of the etc


You'll have to trust me here Injy, I've a face like an Easter Island statue with razor blades up its Harris
By:
Clouseau
When: 13 Apr 16 21:05
I have done some extensive research into the issue of wandering around ladies' changing rooms via a reliable source of information in such matters; namely, XHampster.

I can confirm from my investigation that, where I to have unrestricted access to such vestibules, as an undressed individual male, I would count myself as in serious danger of, occasionally, getting a bit of a lob'on... Blush
By:
Injera
When: 13 Apr 16 21:08
roger Grin

If it helps, I'm no oil painting either...
By:
Clouseau
When: 13 Apr 16 21:15
I think the correct parlance in the gay community for roger and injera are that they are "bears".

Dedicated sites for similar individuals, and their admirers, are available...Shocked
By:
Injera
When: 13 Apr 16 21:20
up yours.

(no pun intended)

Laugh
By:
raspberrybottom
When: 13 Apr 16 21:26
Roger The Butler
12 Apr 16 22:48
Injera   
12 Apr 16 16:55
Perhaps we need some more 'enlightened liberalism' before it gets the thumbs up.

This thread gets more perverse. We've got gays keeping their heads down, people disappearing up their own sphincters and now we have thumbs going up.

It's like a highlights reel from The Word.


And somebody mentioned "bed fellows".... Blush I'm going home.
By:
Davy
When: 13 Apr 16 21:43
Most mosques in Britain are under the control of the Deobandis, an ultra conservative branch of Islam which the Taliban amongst other subsribe to.

"The Deobandi interpretation holds that a Muslim's first loyalty is to his religion and only then to the country of which he is a citizen or a resident; secondly, that Muslims recognise only the religious frontiers of their Ummah and not the national frontiers; thirdly,that they have a sacred right and obligation to go to any country to wage jihad to protect the Muslims of that country."

This is a good podcast about them http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06gqr66
By:
treetop
When: 13 Apr 16 21:51
And any muslim with sense would support these nutters as the consequences would likely be terminal,especially as they are most unlikely to get any support whatsoever from the establishment authorities in this eejit country,most of whom are desperate to appease said nutters.
By:
Davy
When: 13 Apr 16 22:15
That's very true.In fact, the podcast narrator states that many of the muslims in Dewsbury would complain bitterly about the Deobandis but would absolutely refuse to do interviews for fear of what might happen to them.
By:
Roger The Butler
When: 13 Apr 16 23:29
I suspect rogerthebutler looks like someone's set fire to his face and put it out with a baseball bat.
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