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By:
Rockinron
When: 05 Apr 16 09:46
I think a lot of people are missing the point ...(the great unwashed) ...
I mean if you'd accumulated a great wadge of cash through perfectly legal business deals - where would you put it ?
Surely your first consideration is to keep your money safe and out of harms way !
And with the UK Banks and HMRC now having the poweers just to sequestrate your money first and ask questions later ...
In UK Bannks ?
In USA Banks ?
Under the bed ?
Etc ..etc ..
I'd certainly be putting mine in a safe haven or ...Offshore out of harms way.
Just look at what happened in the great banking crash of 2008 ...UK Ltd came within 30 minutes of our whole banking system going down., Only hasty desperate calls from the Banks to Gordon Brown stopped this happening !
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 05 Apr 16 10:00
but youd be putting it in a bank.....
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 05 Apr 16 10:02
and in a place where if something did go wrong you have zero protection.

at least here you get the 75k protection for each bank (unless you do two or more in the same owned banking organisation).
By:
brendanuk1
When: 05 Apr 16 10:06
I read that UK will make it illegal to clock mileage on cars, it is already illegal to sell a car with knowingly wrong mileage, but they want to tighten it up. This is how they micro manage the workers, while at same time ignoring clear evidence of suspicious deals worth milions.
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 05 Apr 16 10:08
and one of the arguments for brexit is "we want to make our own laws" Laugh
By:
xmoneyx
When: 05 Apr 16 10:12
I couldn't sleep if I had money in a bank 5000 miles away
By:
brendanuk1
When: 05 Apr 16 10:16
They do it purely to avoid tax, legally alot of the time (due to sh!t tax laws), not some 'money safety' Laugh
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 05 Apr 16 10:24
they will take risks to avoid tax.

its greed
By:
brendanuk1
When: 05 Apr 16 10:32
greed, ideology, its right wing thinking, I made this money myself and now government want to take 20% off me. If i jump through a few hoops and technicalities, fly to dublin or nassau for meetings I can pay 5%. or nothing.

see facebook, starbucks etc. why this leak wont change anything
By:
xmoneyx
When: 05 Apr 16 11:23
The president of the Chilean branch of Transparency International resigned on Monday after documents from a Panamanian law firm showed he was linked to at least five offshore companies.CryLaugh
By:
xmoneyx
When: 05 Apr 16 11:27
Software produced by a little-known Australian developer has helped journalists piece together news leads from the mountains of data found in the contents of the Panama Papers, one of the biggest document leaks in history.

Sydney-based Nuix Pty Ltd donated its document analysis program to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) to sift through the millions of leaked documents from Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca.

The Panama Papers include 2.6 terabytes of data including emails, images, PDFs and other documents and raise questions about the financial arrangements of high profile politicians and public figures through the use of offshore companies.

"What we've done is enabled the ICIJ to do what they couldn't do in probably months or years," Nuix vice president Angela Bunting told Reuters in a telephone interview on Tuesday.

By using the software, the Washington-based ICIJ was able to make millions of scanned documents, some decades old, text-searchable and help its network of journalists cross reference Mossack Fonseca's clients across these documents.

The massive leak has prompted global investigations into suspected illegal activities by the world's wealthy and powerful. Mossack Fonseca, the firm at the center of the leaks , denies any wrongdoing.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 05 Apr 16 12:06
4 Luxembourg banks Whoops
By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 Apr 16 12:08
you're doing great work xmoneyx keep it up.

we should remember that this is just one firm in one country.

taxes are for the little people!
By:
xmoneyx
When: 05 Apr 16 12:29
carol voderman calls Cameron a hypocrite Wink
By:
xmoneyx
When: 05 Apr 16 12:31
is throwing yoghurt in Iceland a criminal offence Excited
By:
xmoneyx
When: 05 Apr 16 12:37
Canadian companies

198 billionWhoops
By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 Apr 16 12:38
i wonder if the pope will get a mention?

throwing yoghurt probably gets a ten stretch, screwing your countryfolk gets a pass.

i thought vorderman was a tory supporter
By:
xmoneyx
When: 05 Apr 16 12:39
private UK company to NHS

Docs on Call Crazy
By:
brendanuk1
When: 05 Apr 16 12:40
pope has his own banks and even a country, doesnt need some lawyers in panama
By:
xmoneyx
When: 05 Apr 16 12:42
http://www.doctorsoncalluk.com
By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 Apr 16 12:45
i know but just in case he may have a bit extra stashed here and there Laugh

its sometimes dangerous being one of the pope's bankers Sad. i think in the 80s one died in suspicious circumstances near blackfriars bridge?
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 05 Apr 16 12:48
Corbyn has stated he had nothing to do with these tax havens, however he did make a few deposits in Diane's shaven haven
By:
Alias
When: 05 Apr 16 13:38
xmoneyx
xmoneyx 04 Apr 16 12:46 Joined: 12 Jul 11 | Topic/replies: 34,394 | Blogger: xmoneyx's blog
Papers show Britain at the heart of vast tax haven leak

Just as long as you ain't surprised.
By:
leazes67
When: 05 Apr 16 13:39
Does'nt bear thinking about.^^^^^
By:
Alias
When: 05 Apr 16 13:41
Only hasty desperate calls from the Banks to Gordon Brown stopped this happening !

Remember the Federal Reserve chipped in too, only £640 BILLION though.

http://www.newstatesman.com/2010/12/financial-british-money-fed
By:
Alias
When: 05 Apr 16 13:45
i think in the 80s one died in suspicious circumstances near blackfriars bridge?

Roberto Calvi. Not "near" the bridge. Dangling from it on the end of as rope.
By:
Alias
When: 05 Apr 16 13:49
I think a lot of people are missing the point ...(the great unwashed)

Excuse me......I wash once a month whether I need to or not.Laugh Anyway, only dirty people wash. NO, the point is, how much money does anyone need? If you're worth £20m, what's wrong with paying your whack in tax? Your cash will still accumulate. These greedy, corrupt bastards need to be made examples of. Now.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 05 Apr 16 13:51
With an a estimated 2.6TB of stolen data in the breach, this was not a traditional break-and-enter, and the hacker or hackers behind it didn’t run off wth filing cabinets of printed material.

If you assume a generous allowance of 1MB of data per printed A4 page, 2.6TB comes out at 2,600,000 pages.

An A4 sheet, by definition, covers one-sixteenth of a square metre, and typical laser printer paper weighs 80 grams per square metre.

That’s 5 grams per page, or 13 tonnes for the paper version of the Panama Papers.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 Apr 16 14:09
thank you alias, its a murky old world for sure. maybe it was a sex act that went wrong Crazy

why avoid taxes? greed.

dont expect a cabinet full of tax avoiders to take any serious steps, in the early march edition of private eye they mentioned that osborne had recruited someone to high up in hmrc who has spent his career helping big companies avoid tax, he has also lobbied on their behalf. maybe the poacher will turn gamekeeper, or then again not. the business secretary's former employer deutsche bank recently lost another court case about a scheme that he personally benefited from, they intend to fight on.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 05 Apr 16 14:21
The prime minister of Iceland has asked the president to dissolve parliament after allegations he concealed millions of dollars worth of investments in an offshore company.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 05 Apr 16 14:38
Iceland president blocks embattled PM's snap election call


PM has to stick it out or resignPlain
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 05 Apr 16 15:12
other offshore banks probably have been compromised by hackers.

dont think anyone will be safe.

need a declaration of assets law in this country.
anything over 50k in cash and say 300k in property should be declared.

failing to do so ir leaving off details should result in a 50% fine on all assets.

somehow doubt we are transparent enough as a nation to bring that law in.
By:
alun2005
When: 05 Apr 16 15:22
Who would have thought that so many people would have wanted to avoid paying unnecessary amounts in tax?

Just think, those sums of money could then have been squandered by Government AGAINST the wishes of the public on catastrophic projects like these …

'Tell Mama'  (why not just Tell The Police?)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tell_MAMA


The misnamed 'PREVENT Strategy'
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/7540456/The-Prevent-strategy-a-textbook-example-of-how-to-alienate-just-about-everybody.html


Kids Company

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Company


YOUR MONEY. YOUR TAXES paid for these car-crashes.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 05 Apr 16 15:37
need a declaration of assets law in this country.
anything over 50k in cash and say 300k in property should be declared


wtf does it have to do with anyone else what assets I hold? what next "oh you don't need that much we'll have some of that"
By:
dustybin
When: 05 Apr 16 15:56
I understand that any transaction you make in this country via the banks of 10k or more has to be reported to the revenue.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 05 Apr 16 15:56
One of the Americans exposed by the Panama Files wrote a self-published book called "I’ve Been Arrested, Now What?".Excited
By:
dustybin
When: 05 Apr 16 15:58
The snoopers charter has also included the ability of police and others to look into individual's accounts.(I think without any type of warrant too)
By:
xmoneyx
When: 05 Apr 16 15:59
Russian Prosecutor General's Office to Investigate Panama Papers:

putins mateWink
By:
fred c dobs
When: 05 Apr 16 16:09
Jollyswagmans got it wrong Roberto Calvi was not the Popes Banker,he was Gods Banker.Cool
By:
jollyswagman
When: 05 Apr 16 16:26
thanks fred, whoever it was, it didnt work out to well for the poor chap Laugh
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