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Muslim Shopkeeper Murder - Disgrace BBC
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Do we know whether any passer-by happened to shout 'Youaintnomuslimbruv' at the killer, and then have his incorrect statement ludicrously re-Tweeted and taken as gospel by an entire generation of idiotic white politicians who don't know much about The Religion of Peace ?
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'. the killer, who had a long beard and was wearing a long religous robe stabbed him in the head and laughed maniacally as Asad was dying in a pool of blood..........'
Journalism at its finest  |
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alun2005 26 Mar 16 11:45
Do we know whether any passer-by happened to shout 'Youaintnomuslimbruv' at the killer, and then have his incorrect statement ludicrously re-Tweeted and taken as gospel by an entire generation of idiotic white politicians who don't know much about The Religion of Peace ? You should stand at the next election alun. Always room for another idiotic white politician. |
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It's a massive story. One that deserves greatest attention but we can only hope for that.
This poor gentlemen was murdered by a Muslim most probably because of his christian message. That shouls shake the corridors of power from Cameron to Merkel and all stations in between. Will it though? We know the apostasy law. We know that agenda of many (not a small minority)of Muslims. The press should be questioning immans up and down the land to find out if what Mr Shah did was wrong. |
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People are frightened. They see things happening throughout the world that are scarcely believable. They are justified in being frightened.
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Criticising an article when it plainly describes what happened, you are one sad person.
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The Machinery of Terror-Denial is now so well-used and so regularly rolled-out it swings into action seamlessly, as observed in this textbook example.
All elements are there : the excruciating (factually-incorrect) Hashtag, the deluded politician parachuted into the crime scene, the Liberal Elite media choosing to ignore the reason the atrocity, and naturally the dumb online lefties shedding crocodile tears for the victim and pretending to be offended by anyone wanting the inconvenient truth to be exposed. Seamless. A++ in this particular example. |
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https://www.gofundme.com/supportformrshah
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Not a word on BBC this morning news when I watched,it should be full on to emphasise the problems good muslims face trying to integrate and live alongside other religions. Knocking the DM is ridicluous as all anyone wants to see is strong enforcement of the law on both sides of the divide instead of appeasement. Several muslims I know speak out more strongly about the weakness of our government and authorities and cant understand why they sit idly by and the vermin that would kill a man like Mr Shah can prosper in our society.
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From what I have read it would appear that the perpetrator of this appalling and tragic act is likely to have had mental health issues which have not been recognised or addressed by the appropriate authorities.
It is, in fact, premature to leap to conclusions that the gentleman was attacked because of his expressed, and successful integration into British society. You can't just wholesale blame people of the Muslim faith for this outrage because you are then lumping the victim and the multitude of others of that faith with similar outlook into that same pit of condemnation. The perpetrator allegedly "laughed maniacally" having committed the act. Take away the descriptions of his physical appearance and reflect on that fact for a while. If you want to ban the Muslim faith then you want to ban this wonderful man Mr. Shah and the many like him who have been a major positive influence on the everyday life of this country. The mental health of the perpetrator is a totally different question from religion and needs serious reflection and action from those responsible for that person's well-being. I use the word well-being deliberately because he is very likely to have been failed by the authorities and legislation which has resulted in this horrible act. |
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Yes it wont be his fault he has committed a brutal murder. It is the nasty Tory Government who failed him.
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Who said anything about the Tory government?
An appalling act has occurred. Somebody had been brutally murdered and somebody has committed that act. The perpetrator has been failed in that he should have had his liberty curtailed for the safety of the public and his own. Are you suggesting that a sane person would commit such an act on such a victim? |
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Are you suggesting that all muslims who commit crimes across the world due to their faith are insane?
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Unless he knows him or is a health worker then he is just guessing.
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Well at least there are plenty of other avenues of communication. You just have to accept the BBC for what they are. The USSR had Isvestia, Pravda, etc, and in a way, the BBC is even more absurdly propagating false agendas. It's very strange and clever the way things have developed.
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." VOLTAIRE. |
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The mental illness is clear, and a given. Medical people know the link between acts of extreme violent murder and the causes but are reluctant to say why.
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The doctors who have studied this know that there is very often an underlying cause in acts of extreme violence and murder...they are reluctant to say what it is.
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Voltaire misattribution ALERT! It was a neo-nazi wot said it!
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Previous reply was to dotchinite.
treetop, I agree with you. That's the bigger picture which obviously and fundamentally needs addressing. However, I see wholesale condemnation of a people because of the religion of the perpetrator... who was the same religion of the victim. By all accounts Mr. Shah was wonderful man. He and his fellow religionists who only wish to integrate and get on with their lives need support and protection from the fanatical elements of that faith. I keep on coming back to the incident local to me at Tesco's in Mold committed by Zack Davies. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/zack-davies-machete-man-who-5948162 Does Zack Davies represent the British way of life? Are we personally responsible for his actions? Is the Christian faith to blame for him? No. Therefore Mr. Shah and his faith is not responsible for his death. |
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The mental illness is clear, and a given.
no and no. Evidence? |
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The question is do we know what can increase dramatically the risk of mental and physical faults which can be shown to play a major part in the most extreme acts, yes doctors know and those who work in this area have warned against it on occasion.
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I'm talking about this case.
No evidence at this time to suggest the perpetrator was suffering from any form of mental illness. |
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The fact he's hacked an innocent man to death suggests he's not quite the full dinar.
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I agree, but then the evidence can skip a generation. The sins of the father are visited unto the third and forth generation.
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The fact he's hacked an innocent man to death suggests he's not quite the full dinar.
means jack. The vast majority of violent murders are committed by people deemed to be sane - that's why they do their time in prison as opposed to a high-security psychiatric hospital. Very few murderers are insane or suffering from mental health issues. |
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You've convinced me. He's clearly quite normal.
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He isnt normal but he is probably evil rather than mad.
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It will be interesting if the accused is a member of the Glasgow Central Mosque and/or follows Imam Maulana Habib Ur Rehman, leader of said Mosque, considering what he has been accused of saying...........bit of a coincidence
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-35893123 |
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You only have to look at Islam's treatment of apostates and those who of other faiths generally to relaise this sort of thing IS NOT UNCOMMON.
All males born in Islamic families are said to be Muslim. If they choose another path they can be killed. Wiki: For example, in 2007 the daughter of a British Imam was taken under police protection after receiving death threats from her father (a leader of a mosque in Lancashire) for converting to Christianity.[16] It is clear quite clear that under Islamic Law an apostate must be put to death. There is no dispute on this ruling among classical Muslim or modern scholars... Sura II.217 is interpreted by no less an authority than al-Shafi'i(died 820 C.E.), the founder of one of the four orthodox schools of law of Sunni Islam to mean that the death penalty should be prescribed for apostates. |
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Just a few days after Brussels we have a Muslim in Glasgow, expressing Easter wishes to this Christian country and he's murdered by a fellow Muslim.
So easy to say the killer was insane. I would suggest that it's the attitude of Islam to people who disagree with it that's insane. |
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Tommy Robinson on LBC (25-3-16) educates a "moderate" muslim called muhammad about about the actions of the barbaric prophet muhammad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ9i83hHs6Y |
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I'm guessing that no citizen, reporter, police officer or Prosecution Lawyer will actually be allowed to ask either 'the accused' (or any Muslim citizen) to 'explain' this nauseating murder, as it will mean spending 2 days in a police cell, given the scandalous events in Croydon this Easter.
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It was the same with the imam murdered a couple of weeks ago - the community were told to remain calm!!! (clearly expecting it to be a white on muslim action and therefore racist(?) turns out it was a daesh supporter ha ha!!! The guardian soon shut up as did the rest who had been rubbing their hands with glee at getting an edl or britain first culprit. All gone quiet though.
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White on non white murder is rare ..... not so in reverse (the whole concept of 'racism' is a lie)
If there was a white on muz religious murder in this country ...... it would kick off big time |
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It's like NI years ago. We either tacitly supported the terrorists or else were too scared to speak out. This killing is much bigger than it seems. It's sending out a message to all Muslims that speaking out will get you killed.
It's time for the moderates to find their voice, if they don't all speak up now then we're doomed. |
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Well said.
This gentleman was sadly a moderate and was clearly very isolated (among fellow Muslims) in his love for this country. We need Cameron to have the balls to challenge the Muslim community to fly the Union Jack over their mosques. I won't hold my breath. |
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the union jack burqa would look cool
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the independent actually headlined it as a race murder - unbelievable
the truth has no chance |
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the message goes out even further - don't mention muslim or islam or you will be locked up
this is the way it will go |
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excellent post Ovalman
Russian bolshevik revolution, Chinese cultural revolution, IRA, Nazi Germany, Saddam Hussein, ISIS, Taliban, all involved attemped takeover by fear speak out against them and you will be killed |