I'm sure she'll get a warm welcome in a women's jail when the inmates find out. Lets see how good her god will protect her inside, after all it was the will of go that made her do it.
I'm sure she'll get a warm welcome in a women's jail when the inmates find out. Lets see how good her god will protect her inside, after all it was the will of go that made her do it.
There's still time of course for some delusional herbert to say "YouAintNoMuslimSis", get it parroted across social media, and then swallowed by wet-behind-the-ears apologist politicians and media commentators.
. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35685981
There's still time of course for some delusional herbert to say "YouAintNoMuslimSis", get it parroted across social media, and then swallowed by wet-behind-the-ears apologist politicians and media commentators. .http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe
I hesitate to say this but shouldn't we await the full facts here? Facts as in facts rather than facts as in Ian. I'm wondering whether this is more an issue of mental ill health rather than your religious nutters doing nutter things.
I hesitate to say this but shouldn't we await the full facts here? Facts as in facts rather than facts as in Ian. I'm wondering whether this is more an issue of mental ill health rather than your religious nutters doing nutter things.
Eeternaloptimist 29 Feb 16 17:19 I hesitate to say this but shouldn't we await the full facts here? Facts as in facts rather than facts as in Ian. I'm wondering whether this is more an issue of mental ill health rather than your religious nutters doing nutter things
Surely every nanny who beheads a 4 year old then parades it round town shouting Alluha akbar and I have a bomb is wired a bit wrong in the head?
Eeternaloptimist 29 Feb 16 17:19 I hesitate to say this but shouldn't we await the full facts here? Facts as in facts rather than facts as in Ian. I'm wondering whether this is more an issue of mental ill health rather than your religious nutters
mars attacks - we come in peace ak akk. then wipes someone off the map.
nobody gets on with these barbaric people. a woman. someone thats meant to nurture kids? says it all.
mars attacks - we come in peace ak akk. then wipes someone off the map.nobody gets on with these barbaric people. a woman. someone thats meant to nurture kids? says it all.
Amateur video posted online shows a black-clad woman, apparently the suspect, outside a metro station shouting the Islamic phrase "Allahu Akbar" (God is Great). "I am a terrorist," she cries. "I am your death."
Amateur video posted online shows a black-clad woman, apparently the suspect, outside a metro station shouting the Islamic phrase "Allahu Akbar" (God is Great)."I am a terrorist," she cries. "I am your death."
You can only use the facts that are in front of you, the woman has many pages on the internet posing with guns and the hatred of the west. Her actions and what she said.
Their are so many times you can go blaming it on mental illness, its wearing very thin, but you wont get that.
You can only use the facts that are in front of you, the woman has many pages on the internet posing with guns and the hatred of the west. Her actions and what she said.Their are so many times you can go blaming it on mental illness, its wearing very
But you won't get how much we have been brainwashed ourselves
This is nothing to do with Islam, Islam is just being used, it is to do with something else which you will never admit
You do not see the evil the West has done.
I am NOT a Muslim, I just like truth
Fair commentBut you won't get how much we have been brainwashed ourselvesThis is nothing to do with Islam, Islam is just being used, it is to do with something else which you will never admitYou do not see the evil the West has done.I am NOT a Muslim
The muslim women are like tormented bears rocking on the spot!
Wrapped up in the full shuttlecock most of the day being smashed about & abused by your husband, who wouldn't be? they want out but they can't get out!
so they are easily radicalised - how many walking time bombs we got in this country.
The muslim women are like tormented bears rocking on the spot!Wrapped up in the full shuttlecock most of the day being smashed about & abused by your husband, who wouldn't be? they want out but they can't get out!so they are easily radicalised - how
Poor old IAN. Another catastrophic day for him as his beloved followers of Peace-Loving Religions let him down AGAIN.
It's only a week or so ago that they managed to unearth ONE somewhere who was 'busting his guts' for Britain, and now this on top of the Rotherham monsters who were finally convicted for the industrial-scale rape of white sexually-underaged girls, all targeted because of the colour of their skin.
Poor old IAN. Another catastrophic day for him as his beloved followers of Peace-Loving Religions let him down AGAIN. It's only a week or so ago that they managed to unearth ONE somewhere who was 'busting his guts' for Britain, and now this on top of
I do remember the time when we did not have all this trouble with the Muslims, basically before 1990...but I appear to be the only one
I can see what has happened, but there is no point in me going through it all again
Why a four year old child ebul?I have said, I doubt her sanity eternalI do remember the time when we did not have all this trouble with the Muslims, basically before 1990...but I appear to be the only oneI can see what has happened, but there is no p
This is nothing to do with Islam, Islam is just being used, it is to do with something else which you will never admit
You do not see the evil the West has done
Yes it's our fault that the 4yo got decapitated .
We must blame ourselves and show how unracist we are by holding other races to a lower set of standards than us.
This is nothing to do with Islam, Islam is just being used, it is to do with something else which you will never admitYou do not see the evil the West has doneYes it's our fault that the 4yo got decapitated .We must blame ourselves and show how unrac
Larry, I am talking about the invasions of the Middle East by the West since the first Gulf War,
in order to remove strong Arab Leaders. The appalling death toll from this and from the power vacuum we left
I regard as an atrocity committed by The West.
It is still going on because we seem unable the stop the civil war in Syria.
Our defence is to blame Islam, that does not wash with me, I blame us.
If I was a Muslim I would hate us...I am White British and an Atheist( with vestiges of C of E) and communist/socialist.
I say it as I see it, agree or disagree as you will.
You may well have a point there Arley, but I am tolerant of all religions, so accept it.
Larry, I am talking about the invasions of the Middle East by the West since the first Gulf War,in order to remove strong Arab Leaders. The appalling death toll from this and from the power vacuum we leftI regard as an atrocity committed by The West.
Ebul, I think you are right to an extent.I think the rise of militant Islam has more to do with the Saudi propagation of Wahhabism than actions of the west.
But, western countries have overthrown several secular Arab governments that does have a lot to do with it too.Arabs are not the savages that many on this forum make them out to be. I was in Syria (pre civil war) and it was the friendliest country I have ever been to.Very nice people, just like us really.
Two years ago I was in Pakistan for two weeks, even to relatively unsafe cities like Peshawar and Karachi.Again, they were fantastic, I mean incredibly hospitable despite the fact that they knew I was not a Muslim.
So yeah, its wrong the judge a whole people on the actions of a few.
Ebul, I think you are right to an extent.I think the rise of militant Islam has more to do with the Saudi propagation of Wahhabism than actions of the west.But, western countries have overthrown several secular Arab governments that does have a lot t
I can honestly say the most hospitable place i have ever been is Peshawar.Paradoxically the most conservative, ultra religous part of Pakistan.Taliban central in a lot of ways.
However, everyone that i met there was amazingly receptive.I would constantly hear in broken English..."Jesus was great prophet too, we believe Mohammed, but it's ok my friend"
I can honestly say the most hospitable place i have ever been is Peshawar.Paradoxically the most conservative, ultra religous part of Pakistan.Taliban central in a lot of ways.However, everyone that i met there was amazingly receptive.I would constan
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0sNIfjmj45o Anjem Choudary getting sh it from an old muslim.OK, its just one clip, but shows not all are as fanitical as made out
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0sNIfjmj45o Anjem Choudary getting sh it from an old muslim.OK, its just one clip, but shows not all are as fanitical as made out
Larry, I am talking about the invasions of the Middle East by the West since the first Gulf War, in order to remove strong Arab Leaders. The appalling death toll from this and from the power vacuum we left Which ones? The ones before or after Luxor, 9/11 and dozens of other Islamic terror attacks since the 1980s?
I regard as an atrocity committed by The West. Happy to blame the entire 'West' whilst criticising people for generalising when they suggest that Islam, or at least parts of it, are somewhat to blame?
It is still going on because we seem unable the stop the civil war in Syria. 'The West' is dammed if they do, damned if they don't get involved here. You can blame 'the west' every time they do intervene and blame them every time they don't intervene. You seem to suggest that we should intervene. Make your mind up.
Our defence is to blame Islam, that does not wash with me, I blame us. That may feel virtuous to you but are you not just looking for someone to blame, just the same as those that blame Islam?
If I was a Muslim I would hate us...I am White British and an Atheist( with vestiges of C of E) and communist/socialist. Why would it take you to be Muslim to hate us? Surely wrong is wrong and you should hate us anyway? Principals are not a salad bar
I say it as I see it, agree or disagree as you will. I am not sure you understand your own argument let alone me understand it so can't really agree or disagree
You may well have a point there Arley, but I am tolerant of all religions, so accept it Are you tolerant of the extreme parts of all religions?
If you didn't have so many double standards, you wouldn't have any standards at all
ebulgeryLarry, I am talking about the invasions of the Middle East by the West since the first Gulf War, in order to remove strong Arab Leaders. The appalling death toll from this and from the power vacuum we left Which ones? The ones before or after
Larry, I am talking about the invasions of the Middle East by the West since the first Gulf War, in order to remove strong Arab Leaders. The appalling death toll from this and from the power vacuum we left Which ones? The ones before or after Luxor, 9/11 and dozens of other Islamic terror attacks since the 1980s?
9/11 happened in 2001 and was a direct response to the first Gulf War and sanctions on Iraq While I sympathise with those killed...the cause was just Luxor was 2015 The attacks in the 1980s were directed towards the Jews by the Palestine Arabs because they feel the Jews have stolen at least half their country,....which I agree with
I regard as an atrocity committed by The West. Happy to blame the entire 'West' whilst criticising people for generalising when they suggest that Islam, or at least parts of it, are somewhat to blame? apologies I blame the US and any country that supported them in any invasions of the Middle East, this includes us
Our defence is to blame Islam, that does not wash with me, I blame us. That may feel virtuous to you but are you not just looking for someone to blame, just the same as those that blame Islam? Well I have to blame the countries that did the attacking don't I, I can hardly do anything else???
Why would it take you to be Muslim to hate us? Surely wrong is wrong and you should hate us anyway? Principals are not a salad bar If we attack a country I would expect them to hate us, I would, Muslims will tend to sympathize with fellow Muslims, that is human nature
My last line was facetious that is all
Larry, I am talking about the invasions of the Middle East by the West since the first Gulf War, in order to remove strong Arab Leaders. The appalling death toll from this and from the power vacuum we left Which ones? The ones before or after Luxor,
9/11 happened in 2001 and was a direct response to the first Gulf War and sanctions on Iraq Think that is massively over simplifying the motives involved here. Another motive is that
While I sympathise with those killed...the cause was just Remind me which country was the aggressor in the first Gulf War? You think Sanctions for invading another country are a just cause for murdering thousands of innocent civilians? Would you then agree then that murdering middle eastern civilians in response is justified? Surely an even more just cause for it (whilst sympathising with the dead, of course)? You are justifying the cause to murder innocent people unless the west does it in which case it is an atrocity. Cognitive dissonance.
Luxor was 2015 - Was referring to 1997. You would have realised that if you weren't just frantically googling in lieu of knowledge. And this uncovers the problem in having this discussion with you. You had better go and do some more googling.
9/11 happened in 2001 and was a direct response to the first Gulf War and sanctions on Iraq Think that is massively over simplifying the motives involved here. Another motive is that While I sympathise with those killed...the cause was just Remind me
Ostensibly the first Gulf War was to free Kuwait, but the real reason was to bring down Saddam Hussein in order to protect Israel. What tells me that is the excessive amount of killing of Saddam's troops and the continued sanctions after the war that were not justified. Also it was written in US foreign policy.
I consider this both an evil and unnecessary act.
The Luxor 1997 attack appeared to be part of an internal power struggle in Egypt.
All the problems in the Middle East come from the creation of Israel which has no right to exist not Shia and Sunni Islam.
Ostensibly the first Gulf War was to free Kuwait, but the real reason was to bring down Saddam Hussein in order to protect Israel.What tells me that is the excessive amount of killing of Saddam's troops and the continued sanctions after the war that
The current hell on earth in the Middle East has been caused by the removal of strong Arab leaders. The Arabs needed them to keep
control, the Arabs are not like us.
The current hell on earth in the Middle East has been caused by the removal of strong Arab leaders. The Arabs needed them to keepcontrol, the Arabs are not like us.
gerry may have some weight to his argument but where do we stop ? Should we not be blaming the Turks for their management of the Ottoman empire and their abuse of the arabs before WW1 when the west takes all the blame too ? We are too eager to offer ourselves up for some hand wringing guilt trip but the middle east has to take some responsibility for its own actions over the last 100 years,they havent exactly co existed in peace and harmony together.Davy gets it right for me,the export of wahhabism hatred by the saudis bearsa lot of responsibility for what has happened over the last twenty years. I recall entering the Islamic Bnak in Jeddah hearing that the saudis were funding new mosques all over africa and Europe as long as they took Imams from Saudi to preach,rather like our missionaries but without the peace and love beliefs. Our embassy staff were not interested in hearing my concern back then.
gerry may have some weight to his argument but where do we stop ? Should we not be blaming the Turks for their management of the Ottoman empire and their abuse of the arabs before WW1 when the west takes all the blame too ? We are too eager to offer
I would concede some of that treetop. The Arabs are there own worst enemy because they are nomadic, they seem to like fighting each other a lot over tribal, religious and other differences.
Why they need their strong leaders and I don't think they get democracy at all.
There is a vey extreme brand of Islam now being propagated, as you say treetop. Saudi Arabia for one as you also say, they appear to be going back in time....but I think this may be in response in what they see as attacks on Muslim values by the West..
In the West we are moving away from extreme religious values(usually Christian) we have been seduced by materialism perhaps too much in my opinion
So I would not attack Muslim values, particularly in the role of women....with a few exceptions, forced child marriage, female circumcision but not all Muslims do this do they.
So I would tend to leave them to their own values here. Although I see it causes problems in our society but we let them in did we not, I am afraid we should not have. We should have listened to Enoch, human beings don't mix anything like as well as we think. I also se no need no need for universal values either, because believe it or not this harms us.. The secret of life, of evolution is variety, do not throw this away...we may need some of these alternative values one day.
I would concede some of that treetop.The Arabs are there own worst enemy because they are nomadic, they seem to like fighting each other a lot over tribal, religiousand other differences.Why they need their strong leaders and I don't think they get d