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Be interested to listen to what chit chat has to say as I'm undecided and want to listen to your opinions before I commit ?
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There is a series running next week in the FT analysing the pros and cons. The paper itself is pro-EU but will carrying plenty of features written by Out campaigners.
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The really big unknown is how would this affect the UK economy in both the long and short term.
And this is really why the remain vote continues to be the most likely outcome, because this unknown generates the fear of losing something. Personally I think we might just be able to suck it up, even if it means that we become like the third world banana republic economies of Switzerland, Iceland and Norway who have clearly struggled to adapt to being part of Europe but outside of the EU. (if we ignore the anomaly that is luxembourg, these countries occupy 1st, 2nd and 5th positions when ranked by GDP per capita). But there would be a lot of short term losses to be absorbed both by businesses and by incumbent political parties; both seem willing to sacrifice the country's Sovereignty rather than making what I consider to be the decision that best serves the interests of the country's citizens. |
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well firstly forget this bull about "special status" it is just an attractive tag. Because of the joining conditions of 1972, the European Court of Justice has the power to veto any changes agreed upon by any nation after that date.
take a look at the graph I have put up and see which country has been voted against the most times...................................................... [ This image is no longer available. ] the Conservative manifesto for the general election claimed that their would be a renegotiation of the Lisbon Treaty, and Poles working in the UK would not be allowed to send child benefit back home for kids that didn't even live in the UK. Neither of those pledges were even on the table yesterday. |
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This thread was always going to struggle against the "anal lube" thread
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Vote out firstly to save our NHS. Also for British jobs for British people, better wages with less competition for jobs. Re-gain control of our borders and end the flood of immigrants arriving here.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/02/michael-gove-why-im-backing-leave/ |
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Surprised at the odds, immigration huge issue at the moment
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out for me
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No brainer for me. Out it is
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Europe needs us more than we need them.
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Stow judge sums it all up perfectly
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Four months of endless scaremongering coming up, we will all be sick to death of it come April let alone June
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a big OUT
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Out. If we don't have control of our borders we have nothing.
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Out. For obvious reasons
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In
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Sorry meant Out
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whos going to be the first "In" to post?
everyone you speak to wants out, yet the B/Sh1t polls say around 55% want to stay in - Who the **** are these 55% |
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1.38 is basically free money. Now he's got his 'better deal' it's just a process....expect scare mongering, better together etc.
I would LOL so hard if we voted no though....Cameron would look a right mug. |
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RR I don't think the white van man type who post on this forum are a good representation of the public demographic
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A word of warning... The greek people voted 'no' in their last referendum....and the greek PM still signed up to the bailout even against the peoples wishes.
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Some sort of strokes already been crossing my mind,
We'll be in guaranteed |
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1.38 price to stay in. Looks like some kind of joke price to me, certainly at this moment in time.
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LOL
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My brother will be out of the country during the referendum and is a vote to leave. Would facts or another stay voter not vote to just even things up? tia
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is there any irony in him being out of the country?
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What are the advantages of staying in
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Number 1 item in the EU budget is farm subsidies - a net transfer of income from average people to people who own land.
There are many tenant farmers - the subsidies still get transferred to the landowners due to higher rents. Subsidies which make us wetter and fatter. Out. |
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Even Priti Patel is on board now, the brexit is really gathering pace.
With Dave lying every day he could be out of a job very soon. |
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Out,
and by Christmas, "Big Dave" will have been Axed by the Businessmen pulling his Strings, I Never realised how out of touch he is with Reality, And a lot of the Press are picking up on this. |
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In voter here
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A few things to remember.
Voting changes nothing, never has, never will. Only violence or revolution changes the system. David Cameron does not run this country, big business does The idea is to have Europe under one name and not made up of little states we call countries. This has been happening for years over here, with the steady erosion of the British way of life, pubs, industry etc. The result is as predictable as the Scottish referendum, as if anyone believes that result. Just get what you can on the in vote because we are going nowhere. |
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In or out.
What if doing the okey-cokey really is what it's all about? |
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The more miserable you are the more likely you'll vote out.
Men in the 49 to 65 year age group are the most miserable group in Britain......how many on Chit Chat and the politics forum fall into that category?...you'd think about 90% So any poll on these forums will give an overwhelming out. |
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