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By:
Dr Crippen
When: 16 Feb 16 15:21
I did suffer from depression on one occasion - I took an Aspirin for it with a glass of water.
By:
Desmond Orchard
When: 16 Feb 16 16:09
You Sir, are a cuunnt of the 7th Dan - and I use that word pretty sparingly.
The lives of my immediate family have been irreversibly blighted by the mental health issues of just one of the members. I was going to ask would you mock the struggle of cancer, MS or cerebral palsy sufferers in the same way, but I imagine the answer would be yes. Deeply unpleasant behaviour.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 16 Feb 16 16:19
Yes DO, but I can't understand why you have to be so rude

There are degrees of how people are affected by depression.
At the one end of the scale as I've already said, a person can be completely incapacitated by depression for long periods.

And at he other, a lesser bout of depression can be shrugged off quite easily by  time and a few good night's rest.

Why you have to get so upset over an issue like this is a mystery to me.
By:
lfc1971
When: 16 Feb 16 16:48
People with mental health issues wreck the lives of all those around them. They are the most selfish and uncaring individuals and elderly parents, even ill and frail themselves can have their lives tormented by these relatives.
There is no other solution but to stay as far away as possible from them, they will be merciless in their attempt to create chaos.
By:
Desmond Orchard
When: 16 Feb 16 16:54
People with mental health issues wreck the lives of all those around them.
Certainly true

They are the most selfish and uncaring individuals
No, they are ill.

There is no other solution but to stay as far away as possible from them,
Well, whilst not technically a 'solution', I can see how this might suit some people.

they will be merciless in their attempt to create chaos.
Again, they're ill. I'm sure in the majority of cases, if they could appreciate the chaos they cause, they would be mortified.
By:
anxious
When: 16 Feb 16 16:56
lfc there are lots of different mental illness to generalise like you have done is simply ridiculos
By:
Facts
When: 16 Feb 16 17:20
A truly appalling thread. Populated by some known sick posters/ trolls. Disgusting.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 16 Feb 16 17:39
mental illness is running riot in our heads  in quite a few of us Crazy  - i was told a lot of it stems back to the hat factories Grin
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 16 Feb 16 18:00
And now pig ignorant TheBerk, joins dopey Desmond Orchard the foul mouthed idiot with a chip on his shoulder because he's three parts off his rocker.

What a pair of serial losers.

I'd shade TheBerk in the totally brain dead stakes, but it's a close call.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 16 Feb 16 18:06
You've got mental issues as well haven't you TheBerk?

That's pretty standard for a piece of filth like you.
By:
TheBaron
When: 16 Feb 16 18:08
Copying me again tut tut Crappen

You

  BERK 
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 16 Feb 16 18:12
TheBaron  who goes by the name of TheBerk 
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 16 Feb 16 18:13
Or sometimes

The piece of filth who calls himself TheBaron 
By:
TheBaron
When: 16 Feb 16 18:14
Oh dear can't even think of an original insult Tut tut...up your game sonnyHappy
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 16 Feb 16 18:17
That's plenty good enough to see off the likes of you.

Now go and have a drink and cry yourself to sleep.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 16 Feb 16 18:18
Dopey Desmond has gone quiet.
By:
TheBaron
When: 16 Feb 16 18:26
Have you had therapy for your "little problem"...not successful was it?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 16 Feb 16 18:29
It's taken you 8 minutes to think that up you thick ****.

You're out of your depth on here coming the acid.
By:
TheBaron
When: 16 Feb 16 18:34
When I say "problem"  I'm sure you would regard it as a perfectly natural interest.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 16 Feb 16 18:36
Go and get dressed you obnoxious fart, before your dad comes home from work and catches you in bed with your little sister.

Again.
By:
TheBaron
When: 16 Feb 16 18:41
Still looking for vulnerable young mothers as tenants...hope your not still taking payment in kind?
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 16 Feb 16 18:54
Is everyone that gets down a manic depressive/bipolar?

No Rob. Depression is a condition in itself. Getting down has nothing to do even with depression. Specifically in relation to getting down and depression it's a bit like comparing a cold with the flu. If you're in bed feeling off with a heavy cold and someone tells you there is a £20 note sat in your garden you'd get up grab it and head off back to bed. If you've got the flu you may not even register what the are going on about and you wouldn't be getting out of bed to go outside. That's the difference between being down and depressed. Depression can last for a long time, sometimes months or even longer.

Manic depression/bipolar can be extremely debilitating even if treated well. My neighbour has it and life is a constant difficulty for him. I remember being on placement for eight weeks on the mental health ward and there was an opera singer there because her depression was such that she didn't get out of bed to do anything, be it eat, wash or even speak to people. This had been ongoing for some time before I arrived and then after about four or five weeks of my placement she started to come up until a few days later when she began to sing. After that point you couldn't shut her up. She was singing all night. Thankfully medications have moved on since these times and the condition is better managed.

Not wishing to get too technical but there are all manner of conditions that it simply isn't possible to take a broad brush approach to in diagnosis and treatment. Some people have an illness. A bit like a broken leg. You have the illness and then you get better. Other people have a disorder which forms part of their personality and despite improvements in treatment it forms a part of who they are. Personality disorders can be very disruptive for the person and loved ones. They're still human being who deserve compassion even though their condition can make them extremely trying and hurtful to themselves and those around them.

I remember as part of my degree looking into the Christopher Clunis case and it was a perfect illustration of hat happens when you proclaim you are moving to a care in the community system of help and don't put the resources into providing the case aspect.

Walk a mile in their shoes.
By:
anxious
When: 16 Feb 16 19:10
well said ET your pretty much bang on the money here
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 16 Feb 16 19:17
As well as being a Leeds supporter Hanks. When my time comes I fully expect to hear St Peter singing, Marching On Together as I walk up to the Pearly Gates.
By:
anxious
When: 16 Feb 16 19:22
paris 75 ET  BAYERN 2 YORKSHIRE 0 GrinLaugh
By:
Hank Hill
When: 16 Feb 16 19:42
For those of you taking the piss on this matter just be grateful you haven't been affected by it or have a close family member with it.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 16 Feb 16 20:52
cracking thread
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 16 10:21
^^Yeah - mind blowing.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 17 Feb 16 11:24
You Sir, are a cuunnt of the 7th Dan - and I use that word pretty sparingly.

is my highlight
By:
Desmond Orchard
When: 17 Feb 16 14:52
Just calling it as I see it Brendan. I'm not given to such language, but sometimes only the strongest will do.

As regards the 'Dopey' epithet, Crippen (imaginative stuff, by the way, congratulations on coming up with a mildly insulting term that starts with the same letter as my username), only one of us thinks that depression can be cured with an aspirin and a glass of water - and since your username also begins with a D........
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 16 16:57
I'm not given to such language

He's just generally a foul-mouthed piece of craap.
By:
Desmond Orchard
When: 17 Feb 16 17:05
The very definition of irony.
Although I'm reluctant to downgrade my initial impression of you for mocking those with mental health issues, as you're also clearly not the sharpest tool in the box, perhaps pity might be more appropriate?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 16 17:12
Shut up Dopey Desmond, before you lose your temper again.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 16 17:13
brendanuk1 has gone quiet.

What can he only manage one sentence at a time?
By:
Desmond Orchard
When: 17 Feb 16 17:32
Seriously? That's your retort? "Shut up"?
I'm actually embarrassed for you.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 16 17:39
You're certainly a wit Dopey.

A dimwit.
By:
kenny mann
When: 17 Feb 16 18:18
We didn't win two World Wars, by being depressed (Fawlty Towers) used to be my standard reply, but I've seen a couple of bad cases in the last year or two, and not to be treated lightly.
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