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By:
crags
When: 09 Feb 16 17:01

Feb 9, 2016 -- 12:48PM, Desmond Orchard wrote:


Crags has it right, Grangetown is plain scary. The first Mrs O hailed from those parts, how she escaped I'll never know, but we had occasion to visit her formidable family from time to time and it was never less than entertaining. Like Shameless, but with genuinely hard, nasty, violent b4stards and that was just the women and kids. I'll never forget that boxing day visit to 'The Chew', a working mens club. Jeez... You know how they say that The Queen must think everywhere smells of fresh paint? Well, if the people from round there ever go anywhere else, they must wonder why the ground isn't covered with broken glass and dog sh1t.I know Chapeltown in Leeds fairly well and it's like St Tropez next to Grangetown.


Scary is a very good word to describe Grangetown, DO.I would never walk through it these days, bad enough driving through for fear that the car may break down Scared luckily I have no cause to visit there now.

By:
crags
When: 09 Feb 16 17:11
PS, I think the club you are thinking of is known as 'The Tute'  short for The Institute working mans club. There may be one called 'The Chew' though. Maybe a few people have had their ears chewed off in there Laugh
By:
postmannick
When: 09 Feb 16 17:22
daffodil- where about in small heath did you live and have you been there since a proper khazi
By:
DAFFODIL1
When: 09 Feb 16 18:19
postmannick 09 Feb 16 17:22 Joined: 01 Jan 06 | Topic/replies: 3,088 | Blogger: postmannick's blog
daffodil- where about in small heath did you live and have you been there since a proper khazi


Lived in Tennyson road among many others, drank in every pub along the Coventry road,loved the place,banter among the Irish was great,went thru there recently and didn't recognize the place but never felt threatened.
By:
postmannick
When: 09 Feb 16 18:29
small world lived in summerville rd off muntz st its not that i felt threatened just not a nice place to be
By:
DAFFODIL1
When: 09 Feb 16 18:32
I lived in Summerville rd, how long ago?
By:
postmannick
When: 09 Feb 16 18:34
god let me think 45 -50 yrs ago went to the school there
By:
DAFFODIL1
When: 09 Feb 16 18:36
charles road as well, about the same time as me then.
By:
postmannick
When: 09 Feb 16 18:39
58 somerville rd there was a outdoor on the corner of charles rd the old man used to send me to fetch his beer happy days
By:
postmannick
When: 09 Feb 16 18:41
how old are you mate if you don"t mind me asking
By:
DAFFODIL1
When: 09 Feb 16 19:09
62 and I remember the outdoor
By:
DAFFODIL1
When: 09 Feb 16 19:10
I also remember the pub in muntz street which opened at 9am on sundays if you used the side door and knocked hard
By:
postmannick
When: 09 Feb 16 19:12
very small world
By:
DAFFODIL1
When: 09 Feb 16 19:13
it is that.
By:
postmannick
When: 09 Feb 16 19:15
was it the malt shovel ? what was the name of the pub on the corner of green lane and muntz st.....well i think it was green lane
By:
postmannick
When: 09 Feb 16 19:16
bordsley green rd was it
By:
postmannick
When: 09 Feb 16 19:20
was it the nest or something like that
By:
DAFFODIL1
When: 09 Feb 16 19:29
Malt shovel was on the corner of munzt st and coventry road,then there was 1 halfway down,The Nest just before summerville,1 more further up,the White Lion and then the 1 on the corner of bordesley or green lane and munzt st,but for the life of me I can't think of it's name and I'm sure there was one called the Monica right by summerville rd
By:
postmannick
When: 09 Feb 16 19:35
the monica was down the other end of somerville rd towards haybarns park saw my first stripper there one sunday afternoon rough as fick but a naked woman to a 16 yr old wow
By:
DAFFODIL1
When: 09 Feb 16 19:46
so it was,saw my 1st one in Daddylonglegs club as the cov rd first started from digbeth and then the speakeasy next to the golden gloves on the moseley rd
By:
postmannick
When: 09 Feb 16 19:49
the gary owen good god i feel old
By:
DAFFODIL1
When: 09 Feb 16 19:51
best T bone steak in brum and cheap, been good chatting with you postmannick,gotta go,footie awaits me.
By:
postmannick
When: 09 Feb 16 19:51
ok mate
By:
Vubiant
When: 09 Feb 16 20:14
fascinating exchange ....could be an extract from a Pinter play.Grin
By:
postmannick
When: 09 Feb 16 21:45
LaughLaughLaugh
By:
tonkability
When: 09 Feb 16 22:52
Grangetown nap they will have your wheels off your van if you slow downGrin Done some work in the Tute a few years ago it looks derelict from the outside ! And worse inside it Laugh
By:
Capt__F
When: 09 Feb 16 23:57
Brendan Joyce watchingCool
By:
Emden
When: 10 Feb 16 23:04
The Gary Owen bouncers were the worst I've ever encountered  - some of the kickings they used to dish out were horrific.

Police were always trying to get the place shut down  - usually after finding another body in the road outside the club!
By:
Capt__F
When: 10 Feb 16 23:08
got off 2 murder charges
By:
treetop
When: 10 Feb 16 23:22
The Gary Owen bouncers were the worst I've ever encountered  - some of the kickings they used to dish out were horrific.

Voluntary work , was it Emden ? Only been through Grangeown once and wouldn't want to stop there too long but been spared the nightlife experience. I would have thought Moss Side would rival the place though.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 11 Feb 16 21:48
I grew up in the east end of London, lived for a year or so in Luton, for 5 years in Liverpool and spent summers in my childhood/youth very near to Jaywick (which wasn't rough back then - but it is rough now!!!) and I went there only last week to have a look round, now as rough as sandpaper.

All those places are rough, but I have been more worried when visiting 2 other places. I nominate:

Wisbech, which is in 2nd place in my experience to....

Radcliffe.
By:
Capt__F
When: 11 Feb 16 21:54
try doing the payout villa rd handsworth study
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 11 Feb 16 21:57
I have Capt_F, honest!!! Only last year in fact!!!!

While living in the west mids I helped out a mate who owns a betting shop in Handsworth.
tbf I was concerned about where I parked the car.
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 11 Feb 16 22:01
Moss Side has improved immeasurably over the last 5 - 10 years. The police and the council arrested and moved on dispersing many of the gangs and trouble makers.

In their place they moved in lots of somali refugees who tended to be families who want to get on in life. The number of shootings organised crime issues have dropped significantly.
By:
Capt__F
When: 11 Feb 16 22:02
small worldHappy i was there 25 years back still feel the scars
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 11 Feb 16 22:05
I wouldn't have wanted to spend more than the few hours, in total, there than I actually did, Capt.

Moss Side. That's where Belle Vue stadium is, isn't it?
It looked not very nice when I went to the dogs there.
By:
Capt__F
When: 11 Feb 16 22:37
study you still got your office ? if yes how's business ?
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 11 Feb 16 23:25
Not too far off Study. Belle Vue is in East Manchester technically Gorton I think. It's three or four miles away from Moss Side which is South Manchester. Used to love going to the dogs there when I was a nipper back in the 70's but many of the inner and surrounding areas of Manchester are a bit rough and ready.
By:
treetop
When: 12 Feb 16 10:23
Rusholme is a bit rough around there,especially if you area young and vulnerable female surrounded by Somali boys,apprently ! My lass went to Uni there 20 years ago and loved it but I would have serious doubts letting her go to Manchester uni nowadays.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 12 Feb 16 21:26
My early dog days, eo - and most of the most recent ones were at Walthamstow. Still the best sports stadium of any kind ever, imo.
Plus as a kid, Saturday mornings at Hackney.

Sadly no, Capt. I gave it up, 3 months ago, it was way too expensive to run and the stress and grief were way too much. A dead business for the indy, I can't see many, if any single (or even a few) shop operations lasting much longer.
I'm doing something else now, something totally new and which I've had to learn about very quickly and, on the plus side, I'm back darn sarf!
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